4 Options in Iraq

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    “History suggests only there’s only a couple … ways to keep together a country driven by sectarian strife.
    And it’s not to put American troops into a city of 6.2 million people to try to quell a civil war.

    Throughout history four things have worked.

    You occupy the country for a generation or more.
    That’s not in our DNA—we’re not the Persian Empire or the British Empire.

    You install a dictator. Wouldn’t that be the ultimate irony for the United States—to go back after taking one down and install another one?

    You let them fight it out until one side massacres the other—that’s not an option in that tinderbox part of the world.

    Or lastly, you make federalism work for the Iraqis. You give them control over the fabric of their daily lives. You separate the parties. You give them breathing room. Let them control their local police, their education, their religion and marriage.”



    Who said this?

    Anyone know?

    Here's a hint: it wasn't a Republican.
     
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    well, who said it ?
     
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    Joe Biden.
     
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    Is that the fifth option for Iraq?

    I dont see that as much more of a solution than 'gated communities.'
     
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    That would be interesting. A bunch of Islamofascist-become-liberals.
     
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    Since hi sname was brought up, I actually think Joe Biden has the plan with best overall chance for success IF he is the one who wants to partition Iraq into thirds.

    Not that it will stop those knuckleheads from killing each other.
     
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    I second that notion. Partitioning Iraq isn't going to stop the killing. Disputes will emerge on all sides as to who gets what, and these disputes will collapse into all out war.

    Besides, how do you propose to forcibly relocate Sunni, Shitte, or Kurdish Iraqis who find themselves on the wrong side of these assuredly crooked and artificial lines of division? And let's not even begin to comprehend the difficulties inherent in compensating these people for lost income and destroyed ways of life.

    Finally, I am deeply concerned that recognizing the ethnic and religious divides in Iraq will only serve in sharpening that divide which already exists. In addition, any "three state" or "federal" solution currently proposed would, if enacted, essentially override the progress made by the legitimate, democratically elected government of Iraq, further fueling critics of US policy who denounce our efforts as imperialistic while simultaneously weakening the credibility and power of the current Iraqi government.
     
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    All valid points, IMO.

    It really doesn't matter where the lines are drawn. Arabs believe in settling their differences by the sword, and have done so for centuries. The government of Iraq needs to quit screwing around and step up to the plate.
     

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