Inthemiddle
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So you are against the defense of this nation?
Defense from what?
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So you are against the defense of this nation?
40% of the stimulus was tax cuts. For example, most households got $800 to $1600 over 2 years in the make work pay credit.
Most of the American deaths in Iraq occurred AFTER obama and the changes he made in the Rules of Engagement that prohibited air support and reinforcements for pinned down units.
Evidence?
Most of the American deaths in Iraq occurred AFTER obama and the changes he made in the Rules of Engagement that prohibited air support and reinforcements for pinned down units.
YOU ARE RIGHT!!
Dakota Meyer rightfully won the Medal of Honor .. no question..
but the traitor that put around his neck CAUSED the deaths of the Marines!
How can Obama do that when HE KNOWS his orders got the Marines killed!
Here is why..
Obama's NEW rules of engagements did the following:
U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties,
rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village."
mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4usmarines.html#ixzz1YLqkHGN3
Proof? Here is a card our military are required to have on them!!!
Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force, the laminated card reads. For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, thats like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he wont have to make arrests. Does that make any fking sense? Pfc. Jared Pautsch. We should just drop a fking bomb on this place. You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?
There are plenty of critics in the arena. He deserves my silence. I love my country a lot more than I love politics. I think it is essential that he be helped in office.
newsrealblog.com/2011/01/27/top-10-breaches-of-protocol-by-the-obamas-1/6/
So? How long will it take to pay bakc the 1 trillion + for Iraq?
And how many US citizens were killed? How much would that work out per citizen killed?
How easy we forget that Obama was for going to Iraq as well. Last the 1 trillion was over 9 years not in one year. Two wrongs don't make a right. Last, at least the Iraqi mission accomplished it’s goal we can not say the same for the stimulus.
So you are against the defense of this nation?
Defense from what?
Since it was brought up, here are some cold numbers.
US Casualties in Iraq by year:
2003 486
2004 849
2005 846
2006 822
2007 904
2008 314
2009 149
2010 60
2011 53
Now Afghanistan for the same period:
2003 48
2004 52
2005 99
2006 98
2007 117
2008 155
2009 317
2010 499
2011 386
Under Bush the average was 958 deaths per year (2003-2008). Since then, under Obama, the average has been 488 deaths per year. Nothing here suggests either President had any effect on substantially increasing or decreasing casualty numbers, as the trends are not associated with the changing of office.
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Most of the American deaths in Iraq occurred AFTER obama and the changes he made in the Rules of Engagement that prohibited air support and reinforcements for pinned down units.
YOU ARE RIGHT!!
Dakota Meyer rightfully won the Medal of Honor .. no question..
but the traitor that put around his neck CAUSED the deaths of the Marines!
How can Obama do that when HE KNOWS his orders got the Marines killed!
Here is why..
Obama's NEW rules of engagements did the following:
U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties,
rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village."
mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4usmarines.html#ixzz1YLqkHGN3
Proof? Here is a card our military are required to have on them!!!
Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force, the laminated card reads. For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, thats like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he wont have to make arrests. Does that make any fking sense? Pfc. Jared Pautsch. We should just drop a fking bomb on this place. You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?
There are plenty of critics in the arena. He deserves my silence. I love my country a lot more than I love politics. I think it is essential that he be helped in office.
newsrealblog.com/2011/01/27/top-10-breaches-of-protocol-by-the-obamas-1/6/
total fraking lies. at this site you will find a tally of US dead by month.
U.S. Casualties in Iraq
READ my POST about the following:
Dakota Meyer rightfully won the Medal of Honor .. no question..
but the traitor that put around his neck CAUSED the deaths of the Marines!
How can Obama do that when HE KNOWS his orders got the Marines killed!
Here is why.. Obama's NEW rules of engagements did the following:
U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties,
rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village."
mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4usmarines.html#ixzz1YLqkHGN3
Proof? Here is a card our military are required to have on them!!!
Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force, the laminated card reads. For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, thats like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he wont have to make arrests. Does that make any fking sense? Pfc. Jared Pautsch. We should just drop a fking bomb on this place. You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?
There are plenty of critics in the arena. He deserves my silence. I love my country a lot more than I love politics. I think it is essential that he be helped in office.
newsrealblog.com/2011/01/27/top-10-breaches-of-protocol-by-the-obamas-1/6/
From the threat of Saddam Hussein
and the possible risk that our intelligence agency believed he had WMDs.
Both the Democrats and Republicans were saying he had WMDs.
That plus the fact Saddam Hussein would not let UN inspectors in to inspect his facilities created enough doubt to use force.
Last, it is not like we believed he would not use Chemical weapons as he had used them before.
So yes we needed to go in there and remove him from power as it was creating further instability in the region.
Your point is valid but your math is wrong.
2003-2008 was 798 deaths per year.
YOU ARE RIGHT!!
Dakota Meyer rightfully won the Medal of Honor .. no question..
but the traitor that put around his neck CAUSED the deaths of the Marines!
How can Obama do that when HE KNOWS his orders got the Marines killed!
Here is why..
Obama's NEW rules of engagements did the following:
U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties,
rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines — despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village."
mcclatchydc.com/2009/09/08/75036/were-pinned-down-4usmarines.html#ixzz1YLqkHGN3
Proof? Here is a card our military are required to have on them!!!
“Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force,” the laminated card reads. For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, that’s like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he won’t have to make arrests. “Does that make any f–king sense?” Pfc. Jared Pautsch. “We should just drop a f–king bomb on this place. You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?”
There are plenty of critics in the arena. He deserves my silence. I love my country a lot more than I love politics. I think it is essential that he be helped in office.
newsrealblog.com/2011/01/27/top-10-breaches-of-protocol-by-the-obamas-1/6/
total fraking lies. at this site you will find a tally of US dead by month.
U.S. Casualties in Iraq
WHAT is a LIE? There is NO laminated card telling soldiers NOT to go into places where won't have to defend themselves? IS THAT A LIE?
Are you telling me there was no cover fire for those 4 marines killed that Meyer's was trying to rescue just cause they didn't want to do it or were they "fearful" of "collateral damage" that Obama would be accused of authorizing? Remember Obama ACCUSED the military of:
"air-raiding villages and killing civilians" HIS WORDS!!!
[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVYAug[/ame] 14, 2007
According to Barack Obama, our troops in Afghanistan are "just air-raiding villages and killing civilians". 8/13/07
So? How long will it take to pay bakc the 1 trillion + for Iraq?
And how many US citizens were killed? How much would that work out per citizen killed?
So? How long will it take to pay bakc the 1 trillion + for Iraq?
And how many US citizens were killed? How much would that work out per citizen killed?
I dono, ask Obama... Obama is the one ending the Iraq war 2x while still leaving 17 THOUSAND troops there. Ask Obama why we are still in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya... 3 years later and I think it's well past time to start adding the war debt to Obama's spending, not umm, what was that guys names.... hmm, it's been 3 years.... Oh that's right, Bush! Sorry, it's been a long time, I figured Obama would start being held accountable for his actions.... Guess not.
So? How long will it take to pay bakc the 1 trillion + for Iraq?
And how many US citizens were killed? How much would that work out per citizen killed?
I dono, ask Obama... Obama is the one ending the Iraq war 2x while still leaving 17 THOUSAND troops there. Ask Obama why we are still in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya... 3 years later and I think it's well past time to start adding the war debt to Obama's spending, not umm, what was that guys names.... hmm, it's been 3 years.... Oh that's right, Bush! Sorry, it's been a long time, I figured Obama would start being held accountable for his actions.... Guess not.
Breaking his promise on GIYMO and ending the war is why I will not be voting for Obama this time.
If romney does not win the primary I will not be voting.
that binary thinking of yours again. Just because I do not like the right wingers does not mean I support Obama or support all of the left wing garbage either.
I dono, ask Obama... Obama is the one ending the Iraq war 2x while still leaving 17 THOUSAND troops there. Ask Obama why we are still in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya... 3 years later and I think it's well past time to start adding the war debt to Obama's spending, not umm, what was that guys names.... hmm, it's been 3 years.... Oh that's right, Bush! Sorry, it's been a long time, I figured Obama would start being held accountable for his actions.... Guess not.
Breaking his promise on GIYMO and ending the war is why I will not be voting for Obama this time.
If romney does not win the primary I will not be voting.
that binary thinking of yours again. Just because I do not like the right wingers does not mean I support Obama or support all of the left wing garbage either.
I suppose I assumed you were trying to place blame on the OP for supporting Bush when you brought up Iraq... If that is true then did you not do what you just claimed I did?
But maybe the OP is/was an avid Bush supporter.
Breaking his promise on GIYMO and ending the war is why I will not be voting for Obama this time.
If romney does not win the primary I will not be voting.
that binary thinking of yours again. Just because I do not like the right wingers does not mean I support Obama or support all of the left wing garbage either.
I suppose I assumed you were trying to place blame on the OP for supporting Bush when you brought up Iraq... If that is true then did you not do what you just claimed I did?
But maybe the OP is/was an avid Bush supporter.
Why? because I intrepreted your reply to me as giving Bush a free ride and shifting the blame to Obama. Sorry if i misread that.
Yes Obama deserves blame as well for not getting our boys and girls out sooner, but the Iraq was was Bush mess that he left for the next guy to clean up.
Suprising since it was only supposed to last 6 months.