$2.0 Tril. Spending Cuts W/Nothing To Replace Them (Emancipation Even Again!)

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    The charade of the $2.0 tril. of federal spending cuts has been game-played now for two or three weeks.

    1) There is no explanation of why such cuts are needed, in advanced civilization with a $52.0 tril. credit market.
    2) There is no explanation of what is intended to replace the spending.
    3) Mostly, even Emancipation mainly just took property and assets away!

    Featured Document: The Emancipation Proclamation

    Lincoln didn't even expect that the freed slaves would even be able to work for a reasonable wage. Only when allowed, should the freed slaves do that.

    Outcome Then: Fewer paying customers in the stores.

    Outcome Now: Intended, Fewer paying customers in the stores!

    Lincoln's version of equal treatment would be said to have followed Matt 25::14-30 computing. The rich would get more, and the poor would be as well off just tossing any money into the dirt. They wouldn't have enough, and would go into foreclosure status, of that time.

    The North was allowed to keep what they hast, the Southern property and assets only were taken away.

    Anyone might have guessed that scholars of Abraham Lincoln would be reminding everyone that no person should ever be that insane again. The Genocide of 1861-1865--of the white people--never gets discussed much, however, in the schools!

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (George Wallace Hear Our Prayer! Don't let the teachers get past the front door, ever again try to go into a school!
     
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    Yeah, let's just keep spending.
     
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    What do you mean we're out of money, we still have blank checks left?
     
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    Interesting that you bring up the $2 trillion figure...as I just happened to be reading a chapter in Levin's "Liberty and Tyranny," in which he comments on the fact that the statists, progressives, have produced a Fourth Estate of our government, composed of over 2 million bureaucrats and unelected officials, that comes with a $3 trillion cost.

    And, along those lines...

    1. It should not be overlooked that, based on the influence going back to Woodrow Wilson, the statists have added a Fourth extra-Constitutional Branch of government, an enormous administrative branch of bureaucrats and technocrats, experts of every stripe, numbering over 2 million civilian employees. Federal Government

    a. Wilson wrote in “The State,” 1889, that "Government does now whatever experience permits or the times demand." His writings attack the Constitution, and the ideas of natural and individual rights. Along with Frank J. Goodnow, they pioneered the concept of the ‘administrative state,’ which separated the administration of government from the limitations of constitutional government. American progressivism: a reader - Google Books

    2. Former NY Senator James L. Buckley spoke at the Heritage Foundation, on his book “Freedom at Risk: Reflections on Politics, Liberty, and the State,” and also commented on the growth and power of unelected bureaucrats.
    Consider, by example, Title 42 of the US Code: Laws dealing with public health and welfare. United States Code: Title 42,TITLE 42—THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE | LII / Legal Information Institute Today, this federal law is 1700 pages more than it was prior to the New Deal. The reason is the creation of more and more bureaus and agencies endowed with ever broader responsibilities and discretion in defining the rules that govern our activities and our lives. And these rules have the full force of law! Congress has increased the number of rules whose infractions are criminalized, waiving the common law requirement that one knows he is breaking the law. Today, one can be jailed for violating a regulation that one had no reason to know even existed!

    a. While the officials in these agencies are generally good people, they become focused on their particular portfolio of duties, that, often, they cannot see the consequences on other parts of society. Put this together with human nature, and one can see bullying, and misuse of power, especially when these individuals are immune to penalty, and supported by free and extensive legal representation: they have sovereign immunity in their positions.

    b. A remedy would be the ability of citizens to sue the federal government to protect their legitimate interests, for damages. While currently unconstitutional, the Congress can waive sovereign immunity,

    c. Such a congressional waiver would not only protect the citizenry, but would go far toward defining the limits of federal authority.

    d. While not unconstitutional, regulation may be considered extra-constitutional. There may be some point where it is considered to be an unconstitutional delegation of legislative authority to an agency or bureau. Under Obamacare, or Dodd-Frank Reform we see legislation where regulators have not yet determined what the regulation should be…how can Congress allow a law without knowing what the impact will be?

    3. Before one misreads the intentions of the Founders as envisioning a great and powerful central government, consider James Madison’s writing of Federalist 39: “Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.” The Avalon Project : Federalist No 39
     
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    On Venice Beach, in CA, we have no saying, "Where did he go, and when did he know it?" We even have no saying, "Where did she go, and when did she know it!?" We have no saying, "Where did they go, And when should they have known it:" Even on Venice Beach, in CA!

    We have the visuals for these kinds of matters, instead: At Venice Beach, in CA.

    Income-free jobs do not make economies thrive. Haiti is not described as thriving, wherein the Spirit of Lincoln struck again--and freed them from even a pretense of having spending. East Africa in drought has no pretense of having spending. There the Spirit of Abraham Lincoln goes!

    The rural South would come to have no spending, especially among the freed, who became the share-cropper labor.

    The Great and Socialist advances of a centralized, credit and banking system: Actually can often spread the spending around. Finally in the Clinton Administration, even the Black and Hispanic gang cultures abated, since even those younger workers, could become employed. Police Intervention had a chance of success.

    Bush and now the Obama Administration have erazed all that(?). The GOP wants any progress erazed(?)(?)! The serious Party of Abraham Lincoln routine is taking matters way to far!

    "No More Spending" is actually a mantra of the Living Dead! The Party of Abraham Lincoln has been an oppressor party, from the start!

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (White Eyes take even Great Polatch, away--After Lincoln, prelude to the German Third Republic!)
     
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    Are you for real? You actually think it is good policy to continue to borrow money. when the interest alone on our debt is pushing .5 Trillion dollars a year.

    If there is so much credit out there. How do you explain that 4.6 Trillion of the 14 Trillion in debt we owe. Is actually owed to SS, and Medicare in the form of IOU's.

    I think you are a fool, but to each his own.
     
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    It must be enjoyable living unencumbered by the tethers that hold many of us to a rational understanding of the world around us.
     
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    Actually, Real Business lives off credit, and expects even homeowners to create credit!

    So When Charles_Main poster presents as follows:

    "Are you for real? You actually think it is good policy to continue to borrow money. when the interest alone on our debt is pushing .5 Trillion dollars a year."

    "If there is so much credit out there. How do you explain that 4.6 Trillion of the 14 Trillion in debt we owe. Is actually owed to SS, and Medicare in the form of IOU's."

    "I think you are a fool, but to each his own."

    Then even ignorance of family planning(?)--like for some people on Venice Beach, In CA--is shown. Social Security is owed the money because there are legal requirements about how the Social Security Trust Funds get invested. The IOU's get paid with money. Money is even used to pay mortgage credit, auto purchase credit, and secured and unsecured credit. The IOU's are not paid with IOU's.

    Businesses owners do worse on their loans than does the federal government, in fact. Out of $52.0 tril. of the total credit market, the federal government at $14.0 tril. is barely only 1/4 of it. Any household, even, knows about juggling repayments, and even including with credit. Business owners are known to factor receivables, at relatively shark level rates.

    The U. S. federal government has no credit problem. The U. S. federal government has a poorly planned, emancipation kind of problem! The problem is the inherent incapability of the Party of Abraham Lincoln, incapable of sane things, even then.

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred"
    (White Eyes In Chimney Bonnet: Mainly hunted with generals only inclined to increase of warpath atrocities!)
     
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    So I take it you blame all our financial woes on the party of Lincoln but nothing on the party of Obama?
     

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