$10 min wage stickers?

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    ANyone hear about this? Not sure if it's just in Toronto area, but stickers are offered to be put in your business' window if you pay your workers $10 or more to start... I think.
     
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    no not here in my area. so what is the point? A better wage for workers or a anti-minumum wage campaign?
     
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    I think it's a reverse 'shame' sort of thing... so people (if they care) can reward employers who pay a better wage to their workers, or punish those that don't... punish in the free-market way, with the wallet. No bricks.

    I think people could spend more on goods/services beyond the basic necessities if a higher min wage is achieved, and more spending is better for everyone in our present economic model. Henry Ford sort of initiative..
     
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    economically speaking this is a bad idea across the board. We are about to go into a recession anytime now and we are talking about raising the entry level wage up. When folk start loosing jobs and homes over lack of work we'll see how the increase does.
    I'm not a min-wage worker but reality is what it is, we need to let this rest a while before jumping to make a decision.
     
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    The market sets the wage that a given employer is able to pay. NOT some lame ass sticker, or a group of socialist, that sit around sipping coffee, and smoking pot.

    Get real, try to operate a business, and the reality of that statement will come crashing down on you.

    I've owned, and operated a variety of business since 1969. Been through the good times, and the bad times. Had as many as thirty employees working with me at two different locations. The service, and production sectors are labor intensive, and can run as high as thirty five percent of gross for labor. A dime here or there can make a BIG difference as to your businesses success or failure.

    Government employee's , coffee shop socialist, want a be politicians, and long in the tooth party members are the last ones that should be dictating what business pays its employee's.

    Think about it, the government can't make a profit on ANYTHING they do, scary huh?:eusa_hand:
     
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    Actually the GOVERNMENT sets the minimum a worker can be paid. Not that businesses would try to keep wages low...
    and are you a pot-smoking socialist? Or just an expert on them?

    There are business owners who do pay higher than minimum wages... so is the reality crashing down on them? I guess so, even though they are still in business. The people who should dictate what the minimum wage is are the citizens of the nation in question. Not one group of citizens, the ones who have the most reason to keep wages low...
     
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    I don't understand what you mean.


    Fordism?


    Anyway, in many of cases - small business for example, the cost of producing goods is often reflected in the price. Wages have to be recouped somehow, don't they? Yes I know there is a significant mark up, but still. Paying more will no doubt cause prices to increase, more than likely not increasing spending, would it not?
     
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    Hmmm, not many union jobs left these days are there? The ones that do exist are impossible to get - at least to get on full-time. There ARE exceptions to everything, but, for the most part, high wages for minimal labour are a thing of t he past. $10.00 per hour at walmart is pretty good if you ask me.
     
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    Do you have ANY idea what your talking about?

    Have you got your listening ears on, or your talking ears?

    IF, and I know thats expecting a lot, you were LISTENING, I pointed out, that the LAST people I want setting some arbitrary wage is the GOVERNMENT.

    How's about a MAXIMUM wage? Where theirs a minimum there should be a maximum.

    Shouldn't there also be "time in grade", kinda like the military does it, or civil service. We could assign "pay grades", like GS14 and so on.

    Any of this getting through to you "comrade"?

    Why do you think 7 out 10 start up business's FAIL? Any idea at all?

    Keep marching, keep protesting, keep writing, keep sharing, but DON'T try to live in the REAL WORLD by being an independent business person, you'd be a miserable failure comrade.:cool:
     
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    I thought you pointed out that the markets sets the minimum wage a worker gets, not your personal opinion on whom should or should not set that wage. Regardless, if anyone is in charge of setting a min wage - I think it should be the closest representative of the nation's citizens, not one specific group over another. If it's a national policy - shouldn't it be a national decision?

    If you say so, a mximum wage is interesting, could work... I think people would be just as ambitious, but we are in the realm of personal future guessing, all I can say is as long as someone can afford to own a home, car, get married, have kids, school them, and retire with dignity then I personally think they are well enough off...but that's me. I think the members of Coldplay or Metallica for example could have the same amazing lives if they made 2 million each a year instaed of whatever they make now, but I'm off topic here...

    Hmmm.... pay more based on seniority? If thats what you mean, sounds okay except that idiots who haven't been fired yet would receive increasing wages for nothing. Then again, good people who aren't popular would get their due... hmm, tough to oversee with any degree of equality.

    We're comrades? Okay.

    I didn't know that figure. I would however say that I believe more than one single factor (high min wage) is to blame...

    Isn't the world populated by more than just 'independent business persons'?
    I do live in the real world, we all do. And why would I be a failure if I payed my workers more than min wage? I would only lose money if I refused to make a wage closer to my workers... if I need to make WAY more, you're right... the business would fail or prices would raise, etc. All it takes is a little less greed and I'd be okay in that singular respect (many reasons why a business could fail...).
     

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