Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

[EMH]

The Co2 FRAUD is run by very lame "climate scientists" who flat out aren't very good at science at all. They are good at lying, fudging data, and censoring truth.

But there is data, and it isn't friendly to the Co2 FRAUD, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudges everything they think they need to fool morons. But they did not fudge surface atmospheric (air) pressure. They didn't "think that through." After they read this, there will be a "need" to "re-check" the surface air pressure data and fudge it from a flat line to an upward slop. Why?

Very simple.

When Earth warms, it experiences a net ice melt of ice age glacier. Trapped in that ice is compressed gas. Indeed, the compression factor deep in Antarctica is 20-50 to 1, and that's millions of cubic miles.

What does the data say about the last time Earth was... WARM.... ie no or little land near the poles = no or little ice.

https://lru.praxis.dk/Lru/microsites/hvadermatematik/hem1download/Kap5_projekt5_9_skalering_hvordan_kunne_quetzalcoatlus_flyve.pdf

leads us to conclude that the atmospheric pressure at the time of the quetzalcoatlus had to be about 3.2-4.8 bar. This is significantly greater than today's 1 bar.


Jurassic, of course, was both WARMER and WETTER than today...

"During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today."


and that is because there was very little land near the poles...

In other words, as Earth warms, it experiences a NET ICE MELT which releases trapped compressed gas back into the atmosphere, increasing the total molecules in the atmosphere and SURFACE AIR PRESSURE.....



IS THAT HAPPENING NOW?


NO!!!!!

repeat, the UNFUDGED DATA says NO......

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Comparison-of-the-interannual-variation-in-sea-level-and-air-pressure-at-sea-level-and_fig2_261980648

Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average for the period 1963–2005.​

Just ignore the fudged "sea level" which is "rising" because it is all fudge, and that is why the "warmers" cannot show us ONE SINGLE PHOTO of a land mass "sinking" due to "ocean rise." That is really PROOF that Earth is not experiencing an ONGOING NET ICE MELT and hence is NOT WARMING.

The lack of an increase in surface air pressure AGAIN VALIDATES the claim that EARTH IS NOT WARMING because if Earth was experiencing an ONGOING NET ICE MELT atmospheric pressure would increase. IT isn't. In fact, as the chart above documents, it is actually going down slightly, which VALIDATES the claim that 90% of Earth ice on land mass Antarctica has been increasing EVERY YEAR since Algore started lying...


So now the Co2 FRAUD has learned it has an immediate need to FUDGE the surface atmospheric/air pressure data. Because no increase in surface air pressure = EARTH NOT WARMING.

 

[Kilroy2]

First this paper was done over 30 years ago. based on its first rejection in 1992

It was rejected 20 times by various sources

finally on the 21 attempt it was then published in 2006

It was deemed to be to radical by most

The author has passed away in 2017 so he was able to see his work published after years of rejection.

Still he was a chemical engineer and well respected one with awards.


We should realize that any idea about our distant past is always accompanied by uncertainty ;however, these ideas suggest new questions which add to the idea or help to destroy it. One should question and explore new ideas and not dismiss them offhand with written reviews

Bottom line is people can only speculate what was happening billion of years ago and the majority consensus is usually accepted unless the consensus can be changed with proof and not just speculation

Anybody can claim fraud.

Co2 FRAUD and the government involvement (NASA) 10 years ago was the claim of fraud and that the government was faking it or fudging data. Fake NASA data was the cry

Bottom line climate change has its deniers (the minority) who will never give up and the supporters who are in the majority.

The whole argument is based on assumptions and what assumptions that the majority agrees upon is the consensus.

Majority rule

Still bottom line atmospheric pressure really was not his specialty

Obviously he was a smart guy especially in chemical engineering who tried something else to relieve the boredom.

 

[elektra]

CO2 is at it's lowest level in history. Unless you concentrate on 1% of our history.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Clearly, in 1850 the 2 Oxygen atoms switched places, thereby creating the CO2 variant that now DRIVES temperature instead of lagging by 800 to 1,000 years

 

[EMH]

First this paper was done over 30 years ago. based on its first rejection in 1992

It was rejected 20 times by various sources

finally on the 21 attempt it was then published in 2006

It was deemed to be to radical by most

The author has passed away in 2017 so he was able to see his work published after years of rejection.

Still he was a chemical engineer and well respected one with awards.


We should realize that any idea about our distant past is always accompanied by uncertainty ;however, these ideas suggest new questions which add to the idea or help to destroy it. One should question and explore new ideas and not dismiss them offhand with written reviews

Bottom line is people can only speculate what was happening billion of years ago and the majority consensus is usually accepted unless the consensus can be changed with proof and not just speculation

Anybody can claim fraud.

Co2 FRAUD and the government involvement (NASA) 10 years ago was the claim of fraud and that the government was faking it or fudging data. Fake NASA data was the cry

Bottom line climate change has its deniers (the minority) who will never give up and the supporters who are in the majority.

The whole argument is based on assumptions and what assumptions that the majority agrees upon is the consensus.

Majority rule

Still bottom line atmospheric pressure really was not his specialty

Obviously he was a smart guy especially in chemical engineering who tried something else to relieve the boredom.

I can find other things that document the evidence that during Jurassic, for example, the surface air pressure was higher.


Surface air pressure is an absolute smoking gun that blows away the Co2 FRAUD's narrative.

What affects surface air pressure?


1. burning hydrocarbons - releases Co2 and H2O that was buried. Result = 1% of 1% of the atmosphere is now "man made Co2." Or 0.9999 of the atmosphere is not.... NOT DISPUTED = effect = increases atmospheric gas total and increases surface air pressure (very slightly) and should also raise ocean level (very very slightly) - INCREASE

2. temperature - the Co2 FRAUD says Earth is warming. If so, that would INCREASE surface air pressure.

3. ice - the Co2 FRAUD claims Earth is experiencing a Net Ice Melt. If so, that would release a huge amount of gas trapped in the glaciers and hence once again INCREASE surface air pressure.


So the Co2 FRAUD claims add up to a significant increase in surface air pressure, which, ACCORDING TO THE ACTUAL DATA, is not only NOT HAPPENING, but Surface Air Pressure is actually DROPPING slightly...


Now, explain how the Co2 FRAUD survives that ABSOLUTE PROOF that the "narrative" of the Co2 FRAUD regarding temperature and/or ice melt is complete and total bullshit, that temperature is flat and Antarctic ice is growing every year as NASA documented...

 

[EMH]

The ideal gas law states that PV = NkT, where P is the absolute pressure of a gas, V is the volume it occupies, N is the number of atoms and molecules in the gas, and T is its absolute temperature.



In truth, the Earth's atmosphere is not "contained" like a glass jar, but it is "force constrained" by gravity, and hence all of the above applies.


Increase temperature = increase pressure
Increase atoms of gas = increase pressure


How does the Co2 Fraud explain why Earth surface air pressure is flat to down??

BUSTED

That essentially is the prosecution, assuming Chris Wray doesn't allow the Co2 FRAUD to fudge everything AGAIN...

 

[EMH]

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANNOT HIDE


The Co2 FRAUD is 100% COMPLETELY BUSTED by the SURFACE AIR PRESSURE DATA.

They cannot explain it.

It completely refutes their narrative.

It would take a 30 minute trial with a jury that passed at least one high school science course to covict.

The claim that temperature is going up and a net ice melt is ongoing is BULLSHIT and the SURFACE AIR PRESSURE DATA 100% PROVES IT.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The ideal gas law states that PV = NkT, where P is the absolute pressure of a gas, V is the volume it occupies, N is the number of atoms and molecules in the gas, and T is its absolute temperature.



In truth, the Earth's atmosphere is not "contained" like a glass jar, but it is "force constrained" by gravity, and hence all of the above applies.


Increase temperature = increase pressure
Increase atoms of gas = increase pressure


How does the Co2 Fraud explain why Earth surface air pressure is flat to down??

BUSTED

That essentially is the prosecution, assuming Chris Wray doesn't allow the Co2 FRAUD to fudge everything AGAIN...

The ideal gas law states that PV = NkT, where P is the absolute pressure of a gas, V is the volume it occupies, N is the number of atoms and molecules in the gas, and T is its absolute temperature.


In truth, the Earth's atmosphere is not "contained" like a glass jar, but it is "force constrained" by gravity, and hence all of the above applies.

Force constrained?
The volume doesn't change?

 

[EMH]

The ideal gas law states that PV = NkT, where P is the absolute pressure of a gas, V is the volume it occupies, N is the number of atoms and molecules in the gas, and T is its absolute temperature.


In truth, the Earth's atmosphere is not "contained" like a glass jar, but it is "force constrained" by gravity, and hence all of the above applies.

Force constrained?
The volume doesn't change?

IT, the volume of the atmosphere, absolutely does change. Go ahead and argue that warming the atmosphere reduces surface air pressure, because that is what YOU and the Co2 FRAUD of which YOU ARE A PART OF have to explain now.


Why is SURFACE AIR PRESSURE dropping slightly if "the ice is melting" and "the Earth is warming?"

start the Jeopardy! music...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

IT, the volume of the atmosphere, absolutely does change. Go ahead and argue that warming the atmosphere reduces surface air pressure, because that is what YOU and the Co2 FRAUD of which YOU ARE A PART OF have to explain now.


Why is SURFACE AIR PRESSURE dropping slightly if "the ice is melting" and "the Earth is warming?"

start the Jeopardy! music...

IT, the volume of the atmosphere, absolutely does change

It's not force constrained?

 

[EMH]

IT, the volume of the atmosphere, absolutely does change

It's not force constrained?

Force constrained does not mean rigid containment. Earth's gravity force constrains the atmosphere, but one side is not rigid. That is why Earth's atmosphere does not float out into space.

Meanwhile, you and the Co2 FRAUD need to explain why SURFACE AIR PRESSURE is flat/down....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Force constrained does not mean rigid containment. Earth's gravity force constrains the atmosphere, but one side is not rigid. That is why Earth's atmosphere does not float out into space.

Meanwhile, you and the Co2 FRAUD need to explain why SURFACE AIR PRESSURE is flat/down....

So, your claim meant nothing. Got it.

 

[EMH]

So, your claim meant nothing. Got it.

In a force constrained atmosphere of given planet, the surface air pressure is first about the mass of the gas over the surface. How high vertically that goes doesn't matter, same mass all else constant. Whether the "increased heat caused" expansion negates the faster molecular activity due to heat rise is something you have yet to offer any evidence one way or the other in regards to surface air pressure.


But that is peanuts as is hydrocarbons.

The variable that matters most by far for Surface Air Pressure is quantity of gas trapped in ice.

jurassic surface air pressure higher - Google Search

 

[EMH]

Standing by the original claim.

Surface air pressure is about the mass of the gas above it. Heating that gas will expand the atmosphere further into space, but that does not change the mass above the surface. Increase molecular energy with heat and surface air pressure goes UP.

Don't kid yourselves. Toddster and the other climate RINOs have gone to great lengths to find another answer....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Standing by the original claim.

Surface air pressure is about the mass of the gas above it. Heating that gas will expand the atmosphere further into space, but that does not change the mass above the surface. Increase molecular energy with heat and surface air pressure goes UP.

Don't kid yourselves. Toddster and the other climate RINOs have gone to great lengths to find another answer....

PV = NkT doesn't apply in the atmosphere.

 

[EMH]

PV = NkT doesn't apply in the atmosphere.

NO, and it isn't claimed that way.

YOU are kinda sorta doubting that increasing atmospheric temperature on Earth increases surface air pressure.

Well, take a stand and make your point, coward.... are you asserting that claim or not??

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

YOU are kinda sorta doubting that increasing atmospheric temperature on Earth increases surface air pressure.

I am?

 

[mamooth]

When Earth warms, it experiences a net ice melt of ice age glacier. Trapped in that ice is compressed gas. Indeed, the compression factor deep in Antarctica is 20-50 to 1, and that's millions of cubic miles.

Volume of atmosphere ... 4.2 billion cubic kilometers.

Volume of the ice ... 30 million cubic kilometers.

The air in the ice, expanded to atmo pressure, would be about 10-15% of that volume. Call it 4.2 million cubic kilometers.

So, 1/1000 of the atmosphere. At best. After all, it's not pressurized very much. And the liquid that the ice melts into it holds dissolved gases.

So, another failed conspiracy theory.

 

[EMH]

Volume of atmosphere ... 4.2 billion cubic kilometers.

Volume of the ice ... 30 million cubic kilometers.

The air in the ice, expanded to atmo pressure, would be about 10-15% of that volume. Call it 4.2 million cubic kilometers.

So, 1/1000 of the atmosphere. At best. After all, it's not pressurized very much. And the liquid that the ice melts into it holds dissolved gases.

So, another failed conspiracy theory.

MORON!!!

The gas trapped in the ice age glaciers gets COMPRESSED. That's what the ice cores show. We have 800k ice cores from Antarctica, and only went halfway down to get that.

Science of Glaciers

What is the lifecycle of a glacier, and what factors influence its lifecycle?

nsidc.org

If the accumulated snow survives one melt season, it forms a denser, more compressed layer called firn. The snow and firn are further compressed by overlying snowfall, and the buried layers slowly grow together to form a thickened mass of ice.

Each year’s new snowfall continues to compact the underlying layers, and the snow grains become larger ice crystals randomly oriented in connected air spaces.

Scientists analyze various components of cores, particularly trapped air bubbles, which reveal past atmospheric composition, temperature variations, and types of vegetation. Glaciers preserve bits of atmosphere from thousands of years ago in these tiny air bubbles, or, deeper within the core, trapped within the ice itself.

Gas Trapped in Antarctic Ice Recorded the Mass Death of 56 Million People

Plagues, war, and genocide were literally frozen in time.

www.atlasobscura.com

 

[EMH]

There is at least 50 million cubic miles of atmospheric gas trapped in Antarctica using today's air pressure.