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Why Does Trump Face Felony Charges? What is a felony 101
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They heard a one sided barrage of bullshit from dishonest prosecutors. They had little choice but to indict. A grand jury does not know the law they are told the law from one side only. It has backfired anyway.Right. A grand jury of US citizens put forth an indictment in your mind, in order to stop Trump.
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You hate American citizens?. Okay.They heard a one sided barrage of bullshit from dishonest prosecutors. They had little choice but to indict. A grand jury does not know the law they are told the law from one side only. It has backfired anyway.
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Yeah
Yeah, NYC is a R stronghold
LOL!Including on 5th Avenue in NYC?
Biden better not go near there.
Yeah, NYC is a R stronghold
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Queens? Trump, Hannity, Bill Oh Blow Reilly....Yeah
LOL!
Yeah, NYC is a R stronghold
If they came out of his personal account, then how is it tied to business records or campaign money as the charges claim? LOLBoy, you people are grasping at straws. Take shit out of context and build a straw man out of it? The Jury will not be playing your game. He did not ok-to-pay because of how Cohen worded anything. And the payments came out of Trump's personal account.
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If you followed along you'd know. The trust. The filings. The false records.If they came out of his personal account, then how is it tied to business records or campaign money as the charges claim? LOL
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"Donald J. Trump faces 34 felony counts...The records related to the reimbursement underpin the 34 counts of falsifying business records: 11 counts involve the checks issued to Mr. Cohen, 11 center on monthly invoices Mr. Cohen submitted to the company, and 12 involve entries in the general ledger for Mr. Trump’s trust."If they came out of his personal account, then how is it tied to business records or campaign money as the charges claim? LOL
Trump used personal checking account to pay Michael Cohen for Stormy Daniels hush money, trial hears
In the trial’s opening statements, defence attorney Todd Blanche claimed that those payments were merely “for legal services rendered.” The invoices were processed, “somebody at Trump Tower” signed off on them, and they were recorded as such in a ledger, he argued.
“What on earth is a crime? What is a crime about what I just described?” Mr Blanche said last month. “The 34 counts … are really just 34 pieces of paper.”
Those 34 counts include not just the checks but the ledger entries and invoices that created them.
Cohen submitted each invoice “pursuant to the retainer agreement.” Pay stubs to Cohen described each check as payments for his “retainer.” Invoices entered into the company’s accounting software list each payment as a “legal expense.”
Ledgers from Mr Trump’s personal checking account and the Donald J Trump Revocable Trust – which handled the former president’s assets while he was in office – recorded the payments to Cohen as “legal expense,” according to documents shown in court.
Cohen’s first check, which encompassed January and February 2017, totalled $70,000.
That check, which came out of the trust’s checking account, was signed by Weisselberg and Eric Trump.
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"Ledgers from Mr Trump’s personal checking account and the Donald J Trump Revocable Trust – which handled the former president’s assets while he was in office – recorded the payments to Cohen as “legal expense,” according to documents shown in court."
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Problem with all of that is Trump wasn't the guy that did that.
Somebody else did it, and they didn't know that Michael Cohen was going to screw the pooch.
Donald Trump's Team Makes 'Apparent Slip' in Court
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Didn't they object to that as hearsay?
Whatever Weisselberg may have said about it is hearsay.
And it doesn't prove what the alleged reimbursement was for, or who knew about it.
The prosecution thinks they can convince ignorant or biased jurors into believing that Trump committed a crime even though they could not prove that he did the crime. They wanted to inflame the jury with lewd descriptions of sex with a porn worker, which had nothing to do with the crime as charged.
Why Does Trump Face Felony Charges? Prosecutors Say He Was Hiding Other Crimes.
Donald J. Trump faces 34 felony counts in his Manhattan trial, but none involve the other misconduct that prosecutors say he engaged in.www.nytimes.com
A few facts in quotes --
Why Does Trump Face Felony Charges? What is a felony 101 -- Mr. Trump faces 34 felony counts.
A felony is a crime of greater seriousness than a misdemeanor, and conviction of a felony carries the possible penalty of a year or more in prison.
Falsifying business records in New York State can be a misdemeanor, but prosecutors can bring the charge as a felony if they believe the records were falsified to conceal another crime.
Manhattan district attorney Alvin L. Bragg had suggested that Mr. Trump concealed three potential crimes, although he has not charged him with any of those.
Prosecutors do not need to prove such crimes were committed — only that there was “the intent to commit or conceal” an additional crime.
Records related to the reimbursement of Michael Cohen = 34 counts of falsifying business records: 11 counts involve the checks issued to Mr. Cohen, 11 center on monthly invoices Mr. Cohen submitted to the company, and 12 involve entries in the general ledger for Mr. Trump’s trust.
If this biased and abusive judge somehow gets a conviction it will be overturned on appeal.
End of story.
A slip from counsel is not proof that the defendant agrees with counsel's description during said "Slip".
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Ha, ha, ha...LOL, the star witness for the prosecution just testified that he coded the payments as business related. And that he did so because of the way Cohen worded the expense.
Epic fail.
The fail is your belief in the Leader.
guilty on all charges.
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So Trump's life is lewd?The prosecution thinks they can convince ignorant or biased jurors into believing that Trump committed a crime even though they could not prove that he did the crime. They wanted to inflame the jury with lewd descriptions of sex with a porn worker, which had nothing to do with the crime as charged.
If this biased and abusive judge somehow gets a conviction it will be overturned on appeal.
End of story.
Well you have a point. After all he did marry (his third) a raunchy nude model.
Guilty of what?Ha, ha, ha...
The fail is your belief in the Leader.
guilty on all charges.
They made payments to his lawyer as legal expenses.
No lib nor the court ever said what “other crime” this was ”covering up”.
So you think marrying good looking women is the same as grabbing Tara Reid by the pussy, and then forcing her to leave the country for fear of her life?So Trump's life is lewd?
Well you have a point. After all he did marry (his third) a raunchy nude model.
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Wow!!!
You really have a fucked up sense of decency.
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That shit didn't fly in court.Guilty of what?
They made payments to his lawyer as legal expenses.
No lib nor the court ever said what “other crime” this was ”covering up”.
We are well aware of what happened in the kangaroo court.
The court did not prove any crime happened, and the judge instructed the jury they could merely imagine whatever crime they wanted. So that is what they did, and that is why the case should be overturned in an appeal.
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Trump was found liable in a court of law .. sex abuse which would be rape in another jurisdiction. He got off lucky.So you think marrying good looking women is the same as grabbing Tara Reid by the pussy, and then forcing her to leave the country for fear of her life?
Wow!!!
You really have a fucked up sense of decency.
Tara? That woman has some serious mental issues. You people keep using her. Sad.
What about ALL the women who have come forward about Trump? Lots of them. You don't care.
What about that rape of a teenager? Trump's fixers paid her off?
Rape Allegations Refiled Against Trump
MANHATTAN (CN) – A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims. The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates...
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MANHATTAN (CN) - A woman who says Donald Trump raped her at a private sex party when she was 13 years old refiled a lawsuit against him Friday, two weeks after voluntarily dismissing a suit based on the same claims.
The new complaint, filed in the federal court in Manhattan, restates plaintiff Jane Doe's claims of the earlier lawsuit. Namely, that she was lured by a recruiter to summer parties hosted by co-defendant Jeffrey Epstein at an Upper East Side mansion on East 71st St., tied to a bed and forcibly raped by Trump, who slapped her with an open hand and told her he would do whatever he pleased with her.
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