This will be Key: What are the Most Incriminating things that Michael Cohen Said in his Testimony Today?

[Seymour Flops]

For the sake of argument in this thread only, pretend that Cohen is capable of telling the truth for the sake of telling the truth, rather than saying anything the prosecutors want him to about the president who enraged him by not giving him a top spot in the administration.

What did he say that connects the dots for an actual crime committed by Trump? Did he witness Trump entering a business record? Did he hear Trump say that he would pay for the NDA, since it was a donation to his own campaign? Did he enter the allegedly false busines records at Trump's orders? When he gave that order, did he say, "so we can cover up my crime in donating to my own campaign?"

Here's why I think it will be key: If Cohen said nothing that connected the dots to a crime, the defense can rightly ask for a directed verdict due to no evidence. Directed verdicts are a way to keep prosecutors from presenting an emotional case that - even if seen in the most favorable light - proves no crime, but rolling the dice that the jury will be so fired up they will return a guilty verdict anyway. Judges are the guardrails against that.

What the judge needs to hang his hat on is Cohen actually providing evidence of a crime. Then he can say, that it's up to the jury to judge his credibility.

Let's keep this thread clean, please. TDS, elsewhere. This is your chance to tell us about the actaul evidence of a crime by Trump presented by Cohen.

 

[Magnus]

For the sake of argument in this thread only, pretend that Cohen is capable of telling the truth for the sake of telling the truth, rather than saying anything the prosecutors want him to about the president who enraged him by not giving him a top spot in the administration.

What did he say that connects the dots for an actual crime committed by Trump? Did he witness Trump entering a business record? Did he hear Trump say that he would pay for the NDA, since it was a donation to his own campaign? Did he enter the allegedly false busines records at Trump's orders? When he gave that order, did he say, "so we can cover up my crime in donating to my own campaign?"

Here's why I think it will be key: If Cohen said nothing that connected the dots to a crime, the defense can rightly ask for a directed verdict due to no evidence. Directed verdicts are a way to keep prosecutors from presenting an emotional case that - even if seen in the most favorable light - proves no crime, but rolling the dice that the jury will be so fired up they will return a guilty verdict anyway. Judges are the guardrails against that.

What the judge needs to hang his hat on is Cohen actually providing evidence of a crime. Then he can say, that it's up to the jury to judge his credibility.

Let's keep this thread clean, please. TDS, elsewhere. This is your chance to tell us about the actaul evidence of a crime by Trump presented by Cohen.

Michael Cohen, the star witness in Donald Trump’s hush-money trial, told jurors Monday the then-presidential candidate directed him to make a payment to silence a porn star whose story he feared could derail his 2016 election bid.

Cohen testified in a Manhattan courtroom that in the final stretch of the former president’s first campaign, adult-film actress Stormy Daniels threatened to come forward with her allegation of an affair with Trump at a golf event a decade earlier. Trump was fuming because he thought Cohen, his longtime personal lawyer and fixer, had handled the matter five years earlier, Cohen told the jury.

“I thought you had this under control,” Cohen said Trump told him, later instructing, “Just take care of it.”

Trump told Cohen to drag out any negotiations on payment as long as possible. “Just get past the election,” Cohen said Trump told him. “I win, it has no relevance because I’m president, and if I lose, I don’t really care.”

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/michael-cohen-witness-testimony-trump-trial-79b66d8d

What more "connect the dots" you idiots are looking for? Cohen testified that Trump asked him directly to "take care of it".

Pretty damning if you take into account that Cohen has gone to prison for the exact same crime of Campaign Finance Violations relating to paying Stormy.

 

[candycorn]

Michael Cohen, the star witness in Donald Trump’s hush-money trial, told jurors Monday the then-presidential candidate directed him to make a payment to silence a porn star whose story he feared could derail his 2016 election bid.

Cohen testified in a Manhattan courtroom that in the final stretch of the former president’s first campaign, adult-film actress Stormy Daniels threatened to come forward with her allegation of an affair with Trump at a golf event a decade earlier. Trump was fuming because he thought Cohen, his longtime personal lawyer and fixer, had handled the matter five years earlier, Cohen told the jury.

“I thought you had this under control,” Cohen said Trump told him, later instructing, “Just take care of it.”

Trump told Cohen to drag out any negotiations on payment as long as possible. “Just get past the election,” Cohen said Trump told him. “I win, it has no relevance because I’m president, and if I lose, I don’t really care.”

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/michael-cohen-witness-testimony-trump-trial-79b66d8d

What more "connect the dots" you idiots are looking for? Cohen testified that Trump asked him directly to "take care of it".

Pretty damning if you take into account that Cohen has gone to prison for the exact same crime of Campaign Finance Violations relating to paying Stormy.

Yep pretty much convicted the blob right there and then.

The big question is what the jury will do with the testimony on the punishment phase (assuming they find him guilty).

 

[Magnus]

Yep pretty much convicted the blob right there and then.

The big question is what the jury will do with the testimony on the punishment phase (assuming they find him guilty).

Cohen was sentenced to three years for several crimes that he committed for Trump. He was also found guilty of some of his own.

So, the orange loser should be sentenced to at least a year on this particular charge. Let's see how it shakes out.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Michael Cohen, the star witness in Donald Trump’s hush-money trial, told jurors Monday the then-presidential candidate directed him to make a payment to silence a porn star whose story he feared could derail his 2016 election bid.

Cohen testified in a Manhattan courtroom that in the final stretch of the former president’s first campaign, adult-film actress Stormy Daniels threatened to come forward with her allegation of an affair with Trump at a golf event a decade earlier. Trump was fuming because he thought Cohen, his longtime personal lawyer and fixer, had handled the matter five years earlier, Cohen told the jury.

So Cohen was incompetent. No crime there.

“I thought you had this under control,” Cohen said Trump told him, later instructing, “Just take care of it.”

Trump told Cohen to drag out any negotiations on payment as long as possible. “Just get past the election,” Cohen said Trump told him. “I win, it has no relevance because I’m president, and if I lose, I don’t really care.”

Dragging out negotiations is a common tactic. Not illegal.

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/michael-cohen-witness-testimony-trump-trial-79b66d8d

What more "connect the dots" you idiots are looking for? Cohen testified that Trump asked him directly to "take care of it".

Telling your lawyer to "take care of it." NOT a crime.

Pretty damning if you take into account that Cohen has gone to prison for the exact same crime of Campaign Finance Violations relating to paying Stormy.

No, Cohen did not go to prison for falsifying a record with intent to defraud and to conceal another crime.

You did not connect the dots to Trump falsifying a single record with intent to defraud and to conceal another crime. Not one, much less thirty-four.

 

[Magnus]

So Cohen was incompetent. No crime there.

Dragging out negotiations is a common tactic. Not illegal.

Telling your lawyer to "take care of it." NOT a crime.

No, Cohen did not go to prison for falsifying a record with intent to defraud and to conceal another crime.

You did not connect the dots to Trump falsifying a single record with intent to defraud and to conceal another crime. Not one, much less thirty-four.

Aww... I'm shocked that a retard cultist does not accept proof against his orange fuhrer.

 

[Cougarbear]

Michael Cohen, the star witness in Donald Trump’s hush-money trial, told jurors Monday the then-presidential candidate directed him to make a payment to silence a porn star whose story he feared could derail his 2016 election bid.

Cohen testified in a Manhattan courtroom that in the final stretch of the former president’s first campaign, adult-film actress Stormy Daniels threatened to come forward with her allegation of an affair with Trump at a golf event a decade earlier. Trump was fuming because he thought Cohen, his longtime personal lawyer and fixer, had handled the matter five years earlier, Cohen told the jury.

“I thought you had this under control,” Cohen said Trump told him, later instructing, “Just take care of it.”

Trump told Cohen to drag out any negotiations on payment as long as possible. “Just get past the election,” Cohen said Trump told him. “I win, it has no relevance because I’m president, and if I lose, I don’t really care.”

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/michael-cohen-witness-testimony-trump-trial-79b66d8d

What more "connect the dots" you idiots are looking for? Cohen testified that Trump asked him directly to "take care of it".

Pretty damning if you take into account that Cohen has gone to prison for the exact same crime of Campaign Finance Violations relating to paying Stormy.

Is paying a porn star (taken lightly) to stay quiet a crime? No, it's not. Now, if campaign money was used, then it would have been a crime. But, Cohen's testimony did not say use campaign money to pay her. So, no crime has been proven.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Aww... I'm shocked that a retard cultist does not accept proof against his orange fuhrer.

I'm giving you guys a chance to show that if he were to have been telling the truth, for some strange reason, Cohen gave evidence of a crime by Trump.

I'll not declare the TDS cult a failure yet, there is still time for someone to do it.

 

[Magnus]

Is paying a porn star (taken lightly) to stay quiet a crime? No, it's not. Now, if campaign money was used, then it would have been a crime. But, Cohen's testimony did not say use campaign money to pay her. So, no crime has been proven.

LOL The same porn star your orange loser (taken lightly) banged?

Who the fuck cares if you idiots don't think it is a crime? Your orange loser has been indicted and is now cooling his heels in court. What is important is what the jury thinks of the case. Let me know if you are still confused.

 

[yidnar]

For the sake of argument in this thread only, pretend that Cohen is capable of telling the truth for the sake of telling the truth, rather than saying anything the prosecutors want him to about the president who enraged him by not giving him a top spot in the administration.

What did he say that connects the dots for an actual crime committed by Trump? Did he witness Trump entering a business record? Did he hear Trump say that he would pay for the NDA, since it was a donation to his own campaign? Did he enter the allegedly false busines records at Trump's orders? When he gave that order, did he say, "so we can cover up my crime in donating to my own campaign?"

Here's why I think it will be key: If Cohen said nothing that connected the dots to a crime, the defense can rightly ask for a directed verdict due to no evidence. Directed verdicts are a way to keep prosecutors from presenting an emotional case that - even if seen in the most favorable light - proves no crime, but rolling the dice that the jury will be so fired up they will return a guilty verdict anyway. Judges are the guardrails against that.

What the judge needs to hang his hat on is Cohen actually providing evidence of a crime. Then he can say, that it's up to the jury to judge his credibility.

Let's keep this thread clean, please. TDS, elsewhere. This is your chance to tell us about the actaul evidence of a crime by Trump presented by Cohen.

the lefts top witnesses are a porn star and a convicted perjurer ... the leftists DA , judge , and prosecutors could care less what is truth ,lies ,legal or illegal .. its a political banana republic prosecution .. its gonna take a lot of courage for just one Juror to face the outing and backlash from the left if they vote not to convict .

 

[BackAgain]

Yep pretty much convicted the blob right there and then.

The big question is what the jury will do with the testimony on the punishment phase (assuming they find him guilty).

Nothing muttered by Cohen is credible. But his testiphony is sufficient to send the matter to the jury. It’s NY City, so the complete lack of the perjurer’s testimony may not be considered by the jury.

The jury gets zero say in sentencing, candyass.

The appellate courts will reverse this nonsense assuming the jury robotically votes to convict despite the lack of any credible evidence and despite the nonsense nature of the charge(s).

 

[yidnar]

LOL The same porn star your orange loser (taken lightly) banged?

Who the fuck cares if you idiots don't think it is a crime? Your orange loser has been indicted and is now cooling his heels in court. What is important is what the jury thinks of the case. Let me know if you are still confused.

notice the dim doesn't care about the fact that no crime has been committed .. as long as Trump is found guilty ...

 

[Magnus]

I'm giving you guys a chance to show that if he were to have been telling the truth, for some strange reason, Cohen gave evidence of a crime by Trump.

I'll not declare the TDS cult a failure yet, there is still time for someone to do it.

I did, retard. Learn to read.

Better yet, prove me wrong by providing your trustworthy link. By "trustworthy", I mean none of the brightfart or some other right-wing kook sites.

Come on, let's see what you got. Since you are a retard cultist, I don't think you will have anything but hey, prove me wrong. Go.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I did, retard. Learn to read.

Better yet, prove me wrong by providing your trustworthy link. By "trustworthy", I mean none of the brightfart or some other right-wing kook sites.

Come on, let's see what you got. Since you are a retard cultist, I don't think you will have anything but hey, prove me wrong. Go.

Link to what?

 

[Magnus]

Link to what?

What the fuck do you think we are talking about? Retard. This is your thread. You brought up the issue.

Man, just when I think I trumptards can't get any dumber, you turn up.

 

[Oddball]

‘Mr. Fix-It’ Michael Cohen bombs on the stand, offers no new evidence to convict Trump

So Michael Cohen wants a reality show. Who would buy it? If his testimony Monday is any indication, he is completely disconnected from reality.

nypost.com

 

[candycorn]

The jury gets zero say in sentencing, candyass.

I hope you’re right...given your track record, I have my doubts.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What the fuck do you think we are talking about? Retard. This is your thread. You brought up the issue.

Man, just when I think I trumptards can't get any dumber, you turn up.

We're talking about what evidence of crimes committed by Trump Cohen gave in today's testimony. Read the OP again.

There's no link to that, because it did not happen.

 

[BackAgain]

I hope you’re right...given your track record, I have my doubts.

My track record is spot on.

Yours is a silly shit show.

Try to follow along little one. The jury decides the facts of the case and on that basis finds either guilt or non guilt — if they can do so.

But they don’t get any say on sentencing NY (except in capital cases which don’t really resist anymore in NY).

Go toddle off now.

 

[candycorn]

My track record is spot on.

On which sock account?

Yours is a silly shit show.

306>232... Biden shit on your blob.

But they don’t get any say on sentencing NY

Happy to hear that. The judge gets to decide the sentence of the guy that keeps insulting him (if there is one).