Wrong Color for Medal of Honor

[RetiredGySgt]

Judge: Decorated soldier won't get Medal of Honor

He is white so no one will be issuing a Medal of Honor for this soldier. But we will upgrade 20 some odd distinguished Cross for Hispanics and Jews.

While those men deserve the medal so does this soldier.

Ohh and this is not an attack on Obama, he can not do anything that I know of to upgrade the medal on his own. It takes action from Congress.

Isn't it sad that because of race a deserving man will still be denied his award?

 

[Gracie]

Where does it say anything about race???

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Where does it say anything about race???

I see you lack reading comprehension skills. Our Government is awarding upgrades of the same medal for something like 24 Hispanic soldiers and Jewish soldiers. If this guy had just been Jewish or Hispanic he would be a shoe in.

 

[Mojo2]

he slipped away from a military hospital with a hip wound to rejoin his unit rather than return home to Kentucky and unreeled a telephone wire, plunged into a shallow ditch in front of the battle line and directed multiple rounds of fire for three hours as German troops continued their offensive, sometimes getting within five yards of Conner's position.

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Retired Lt. Harold Wigetman, a member of the 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry, said that between the artillery strikes Conner called in and spray from his own machine gun, he killed at least 50 German soldiers and wounded twice as many.

"His heroic and entirely voluntary act saved our battalion," Wigetman wrote. "If he hadn't done what he did, we would have had to fight for our lives."

Judge: Decorated soldier won't get Medal of Honor

His actions were certainly above and beyond the call of duty. Certainly courageous. Certainly instrumental in inflicting a hurt on the enemy and saving American lives. However, his act doesn't match the acts of heroism I've read which have been recognized with MOH's.

IMHO, giving him a MOH would lower the standards for eligibility.

Sorry, but that's my view of it.

 

[pinqy]

Judge: Decorated soldier won't get Medal of Honor

He is white so no one will be issuing a Medal of Honor for this soldier. But we will upgrade 20 some odd distinguished Cross for Hispanics and Jews.

While those men deserve the medal so does this soldier.

Ohh and this is not an attack on Obama, he can not do anything that I know of to upgrade the medal on his own. It takes action from Congress.

Isn't it sad that because of race a deserving man will still be denied his award?

He's not being denied the MOH because he's White, but because of a stupid technicality in submission. It is unclear why he wasn't awarded the MOB in the first place. The minorities having their awards upgraded are because it appears they were denied the proper award due to their race. Conner' s race is not and has never been a factor.

 

[BlackSand]

" ... four Silver Stars, four Bronze Stars, seven Purple Hearts and the Distinguished Service Cross ..."

Perhaps if he had chosen to throw the medals he did earn over the White House fence in the 70's ... He may have become Secretary of State or be in line for the Nobel Peace Prize.



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[Connery]

Seems more like a statute of limitations issue. "U.S. District Judge Thomas B. Russell, in an 11-page opinion issued late Tuesday, said a technicality will prevent Pauline Conner of Albany, Ky., from continuing her campaign on behalf of her husband, who died in 1998. Russell concluded that Pauline Conner waited too long to present new evidence to the U.S. Army Board of Correction of Military Records, which rejected her bid to alter her husband's service record." On the issue of new evidence, "The most recent information received 22 December 2008 is not new evidence and does not warrant granting an exception to the above cited regulation and a formal hearing," wrote Conrad V. Meyer, the director of the Army Board for Correction of Military Records on Feb. 9, 2009".

Second-most decorated WWII soldier won't get Medal of Honor - CBS News

This is certainly frustrating, but there are ways that this hurdle can be overcome. The widow needs to retain competent counsel to assist in this matter.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Judge: Decorated soldier won't get Medal of Honor

He is white so no one will be issuing a Medal of Honor for this soldier. But we will upgrade 20 some odd distinguished Cross for Hispanics and Jews.

While those men deserve the medal so does this soldier.

Ohh and this is not an attack on Obama, he can not do anything that I know of to upgrade the medal on his own. It takes action from Congress.

Isn't it sad that because of race a deserving man will still be denied his award?

 

[Mojo2]

Seems more like a statute of limitations issue. "U.S. District Judge Thomas B. Russell, in an 11-page opinion issued late Tuesday, said a technicality will prevent Pauline Conner of Albany, Ky., from continuing her campaign on behalf of her husband, who died in 1998. Russell concluded that Pauline Conner waited too long to present new evidence to the U.S. Army Board of Correction of Military Records, which rejected her bid to alter her husband's service record." On the issue of new evidence, "The most recent information received 22 December 2008 is not new evidence and does not warrant granting an exception to the above cited regulation and a formal hearing," wrote Conrad V. Meyer, the director of the Army Board for Correction of Military Records on Feb. 9, 2009".

Second-most decorated WWII soldier won't get Medal of Honor - CBS News

This is certainly frustrating, but there are ways that this hurdle can be overcome. The widow needs to retain competent counsel to assist in this matter.

IMHO, no one has the heart to tell the widow her husband's courageous exploits just don't measure up to the level of gallantry recognized by the awarding of a MOH.

They are hiding behind technicality and the law.

Because in a few short years this campaign will be moot.

She and her husband will be rejoined and they will be happy together for all time.

 

[Mojo2]

Have any of you ever sat and read the actions that HAVE been recognized with the awarding of a MOH?

I used to work at a radio station which featured short descriptions of MOH winner's acts of valor.

They are really something.

Compare what he did to the acts of these MOH recipients and you will agree his acts, though wonderful and brave, just isn't at that same level.

 

[Gracie]

Sarge, my reading comprehension is just fine. Do outline where it says anything about jews and hispanics. Thanks in advance. :cuckcoo:

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Sarge, my reading comprehension is just fine. Do outline where it says anything about jews and hispanics. Thanks in advance. :cuckcoo:

The cuckoo is you but then I have suspected that for some time. Do bother to read to the bottom of the story if it isn't to much trouble dear.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Sarge, my reading comprehension is just fine. Do outline where it says anything about jews and hispanics. Thanks in advance. :cuckcoo:

In February, the Pentagon announced that President Barack Obama will bestow the Medal of Honor on 24 other veterans after a decade-long congressionally mandated review of minorities who may have been passed over for it because of prejudices. The unusual mass ceremony, scheduled for Tuesday, will honor veterans — most of Hispanic or Jewish heritage — who already had been recognized with the Distinguished Service Cross.

I guess that great reading comprehension you have just missed an entire paragraph, right?

 

[Gracie]

Yup. Looks like I did miss that. Probably because I was not looking for some kind of foaming angle to ***** about.

 

[Politico]

The question Gracie is was he denied because he was white. The answer is no.

 

[whitehall]

Nobody wants to second guess the heroes who were awarded the Medal of Honor but it's reasonable to debate the merits of someone who is campaigning for the award. How does "slipping away from the hospital with a hip wound" rise to the level of uncommon valor? Adding a racial aspect to the issue is dishonest and unfair.

 

[BlackSand]

Nobody wants to second guess the heroes who were awarded the Medal of Honor but it's reasonable to debate the merits of someone who is campaigning for the award. How does "slipping away from the hospital with a hip wound" rise to the level of uncommon valor? Adding a racial aspect to the issue is dishonest and unfair.

From the article provided in the link ...
"In February, the Pentagon announced that President Barack Obama will bestow the Medal of Honor on 24 other veterans after a decade-long congressionally mandated review of minorities who may have been passed over for it because of prejudices.
The unusual mass ceremony, scheduled for Tuesday, will honor veterans — most of Hispanic or Jewish heritage — who already had been recognized with the Distinguished Service Cross."

Whereas I cannot speak to the issue of merit as determined in the case of Lt. Conner ... The article plainly describes Congress' mandate to review Distinguished Service Cross cases as a matter of race or minority status and as applicable to the Medal of Honor.
If you have to have a mandate from Congress to provide racial aspects to a process that should be judged by the same merit in any case ... Then why would you add the racial or minority status aspect to it?

If anyone can have their case for the Medal of Honor reviewed at any time to the same set of criteria or standards ... It was Congress that mandated race as an exception to bypass the standing rules.

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[Edgetho]

Nobody wants to second guess the heroes who were awarded the Medal of Honor but it's reasonable to debate the merits of someone who is campaigning for the award. How does "slipping away from the hospital with a hip wound" rise to the level of uncommon valor? Adding a racial aspect to the issue is dishonest and unfair.

From the article provided in the link ...
"In February, the Pentagon announced that President Barack Obama will bestow the Medal of Honor on 24 other veterans after a decade-long congressionally mandated review of minorities who may have been passed over for it because of prejudices.
The unusual mass ceremony, scheduled for Tuesday, will honor veterans — most of Hispanic or Jewish heritage — who already had been recognized with the Distinguished Service Cross."

Whereas I cannot speak to the issue of merit as determined in the case of Lt. Conner ... The article plainly describes Congress' mandate to review Distinguished Service Cross cases as a matter of race or minority status and as applicable to the Medal of Honor.
If you have to have a mandate from Congress to provide racial aspects to a process that should be judged by the same merit in any case ... Then why would you add the racial or minority status aspect to it?

If anyone can have their case for the Medal of Honor reviewed at any time to the same set of criteria or standards ... It was Congress that mandated race as an exception to bypass the standing rules.

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This is a load of shit.

I never saw racial prejudice applied in any measurable way while in the Army. For 5-1/2 years

I never saw racial prejudice applied to anyone deserving of a decoration.

I'm talking during Viet Nam. 45 years ago. I was there for 2 years. In combat, 11B4S

If anything, Officers were looking for deserving racial minorities to give medals to.

Outside of themselves, of course.

This is a pile of shit.

I got my CIB. They can stuff the rest of it.

Pile of shit anyway

 

[TrainTime]

Sarge, my reading comprehension is just fine. Do outline where it says anything about jews and hispanics. Thanks in advance. :cuckcoo:

TODAY on Fox News....

Barry is shoring up his "base" (jews, afros, latins) by handing out 24 CMOH....all hand-picked, not a white Christian amongst them. I'm a Combat Vet....not a guy I served with in the RVN who didn't exhibit extraordinary courage out in the boonies....even those who needed a boot in the ass to jump out of that Huey woke up and did their thing.

IMPEACH SOETORO!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Judge: Decorated soldier won't get Medal of Honor

He is white so no one will be issuing a Medal of Honor for this soldier. But we will upgrade 20 some odd distinguished Cross for Hispanics and Jews.

While those men deserve the medal so does this soldier.

Ohh and this is not an attack on Obama, he can not do anything that I know of to upgrade the medal on his own. It takes action from Congress.

Isn't it sad that because of race a deserving man will still be denied his award?

Shame on your for making this about race when, IN FACT, the Medal of Honor ceremony we're watching right now honors those who did not get the medal they DESERVED because of their color. These deaths go back to Vietnam era and have been ignored for far too long.



BTW, this is not being carried of fox.
CNN is showing it, as is MSNBC but, as usual, not fox.


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