Windows Recall Not Optional

[Ringel05]

Windows Recall is a built in app that takes "pictures" of everything you do on your computer every five seconds......... When first announced Microsoft seemed to pull it but now it's been re-instituted. Supposedly they added encryption and local storage on each individual computer, they claim this is all for "our benefit". Someone found a shut off selection that supposedly actually uninstalled it and guess what........ Microsoft claimed it was a "bug" and that "bug" is being removed. Independent hack testers have already stated this is a major dumpster fire, a security nightmare.
I'm lucky in that on my Windows gamer I was actually able to set up a local account so none of the Microsoft telemetry shenanigans have affected me. As of yet that is, I don't trust Microsoft to somehow disable my local account sometime in the near future with an upgrade. And some people wonder why I use Linux as my primary daily machine..........

Windows Recall sounds like a privacy nightmare – here's why I'm worried

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

windows 11 is infested with bugs

 

[White 6]

Windows Recall is a built in app that takes "pictures" of everything you do on your computer every five seconds......... When first announced Microsoft seemed to pull it but now it's been re-instituted. Supposedly they added encryption and local storage on each individual computer, they claim this is all for "our benefit". Someone found a shut off selection that supposedly actually uninstalled it and guess what........ Microsoft claimed it was a "bug" and that "bug" is being removed. Independent hack testers have already stated this is a major dumpster fire, a security nightmare.
I'm lucky in that on my Windows gamer I was actually able to set up a local account so none of the Microsoft telemetry shenanigans have affected me. As of yet that is, I don't trust Microsoft to somehow disable my local account sometime in the near future with an upgrade. And some people wonder why I use Linux as my primary daily machine..........

Windows Recall sounds like a privacy nightmare – here's why I'm worried

Is it also on any update of Windows 10. Also, how much longer do you think I can continue to use Windows 10.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

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[mamooth]

Also, how much longer do you think I can continue to use Windows 10.

Official Microsoft support for Win10 ends Oct 14, 2025.

It will still be "safe" for a while after that.

I figure by that time, someone will have figured out an easy way to sneak Win11 on to older machines that don't officially support Win11. There are ways to do it already, but they're not easy.

 

[Hellokitty]

Windows Recall is a built in app that takes "pictures" of everything you do on your computer every five seconds......... When first announced Microsoft seemed to pull it but now it's been re-instituted. Supposedly they added encryption and local storage on each individual computer, they claim this is all for "our benefit". Someone found a shut off selection that supposedly actually uninstalled it and guess what........ Microsoft claimed it was a "bug" and that "bug" is being removed. Independent hack testers have already stated this is a major dumpster fire, a security nightmare.
I'm lucky in that on my Windows gamer I was actually able to set up a local account so none of the Microsoft telemetry shenanigans have affected me. As of yet that is, I don't trust Microsoft to somehow disable my local account sometime in the near future with an upgrade. And some people wonder why I use Linux as my primary daily machine..........

Windows Recall sounds like a privacy nightmare – here's why I'm worried

I don't get why or how they would use such information, but then I'm computer illiterate, beyond the basics.

 

[Ringel05]

I don't get why or how they would use such information, but then I'm computer illiterate, beyond the basics.

Millions of people pay their bills online, bank and shop online. Recall will copy all of your keystrokes, accounts, passwords, banking information, etc............ Might as well just post all of that on the open web for all to see and use if your computer and encryption files are hacked.

 

[toobfreak]

Windows Recall is a built in app that takes "pictures" of everything you do

windows 11 is infested with bugs

Lucky for me that I use a McIntosh and the the only Windows I run is emulated XP in order to run very old apps.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Lucky for me that I use a McIntosh and the the only Windows I run is emulated XP in order to run very old apps.

Believe me, I have thought about switching.

 

[Ringel05]

Lucky for me that I use a McIntosh and the the only Windows I run is emulated XP in order to run very old apps.

I actually have 2 primary types, one is my Linux and the others are all Apple. I didn't go brand new on my Apple machines. Desktop is an M1 Mac Mini running Sonoma, think I paid around $300 for it. The laptop is a M2 MacBook Air, around $800 and an older Ipad for around $150. I also have a i7 chip Mac Mini that functions as an entertainment center in the living room and my phone is a iPhone 12. Both were really cheap.
I like my Linux but I find I'm using my Macs a lot more. I use the Linux machine for more secure online chores.
Win 7 was my all time favorite Windows version, smoother and cleaner than XP which I now find to be clunky at best.

 

[White 6]

Official Microsoft support for Win10 ends Oct 14, 2025.

It will still be "safe" for a while after that.

I figure by that time, someone will have figured out an easy way to sneak Win11 on to older machines that don't officially support Win11. There are ways to do it already, but they're not easy.

Thanks. So, I have a year or so to try to get my sh#t together as if I were still in the game before having to learn to deal with a new system. I hate having to learn new systems, when the one I am using, does everything I want. That is probably a symptom of getting old and wishing to avoid change. Whatever. It is what it is, and I will resist as long as practically possible.

 

[toobfreak]

Believe me, I have thought about switching.

Strange as it sounds, Windows XP runs better in my Mac than it ever did in a PC. Plus I have secure data back up not common to most PCs or even Macs--- Not only is my OS spread across several HDDs, but even if one failed and crashed, I would not lose anything, plus (the drives are even hot-swappable), I could have my entire computer crash during a write operation, and the half written file would be preserved in limbo until the computer was fixed and the file could be saved to the HDD.

Another strange thing is that there are no wires in my computer--- everything is so well designed that no wires or jumpers are needed. Lastly, whenever Apple writes a new OS, they are free to upgrade. And everything works. There is no need to debug programs or be a computer expert to make stuff work. Actually, the UNIX-type architecture is quite logical.

Oh yeah, one other thing that popped into my head--- last PC I had ran Windows 7--- if I needed to search for a file, a little dog came out with a flashlight and searched the computer serially one location at a time; it might take hours for the computer to search everywhere to find something! With the Mac, it is like Star Trek: I just type in the type of file I'm looking for or the name of it and as I type it in, the computer searches all locations at the same time and gives me its findings as I type so that by the time I am even done typing in the search parameter, the search is already done!

Oh yeah, since I bought my Mac Pro in 2011, I've never needed to buy another computer since. In fact, I don't even need to run an AV and have gone for years at a time without one. The difference between a Mac and a PC is like the difference between college and grade school. The only downside is that while Apple has tried to be very helpful over the years, sometimes the company is a bit odd and some of their stuff has a bit different way of doing things.

 

[toobfreak]

I actually have 2 primary types, one is my Linux and the others are all Apple. I didn't go brand new on my Apple machines. Desktop is an M1 Mac Mini running Sonoma, think I paid around $300 for it. The laptop is a M2 MacBook Air, around $800 and an older Ipad for around $150. I also have a i7 chip Mac Mini that functions as an entertainment center in the living room and my phone is a iPhone 12. Both were really cheap.
I like my Linux but I find I'm using my Macs a lot more. I use the Linux machine for more secure online chores.

No deals here. My MacPro desktop I had custom built to my business needs back in 2012 and it is set up as a RAID 5 with RAID 2 backup, plus I run Parallels in it to emulate a PC. It is built on an i7 platform using a quad-core Nahelem processor w-3565 server grade xeon processor (no fans required) at around 3.46 or 3.65 GHz.

Win 7 was my all time favorite Windows version, smoother and cleaner than XP which I now find to be clunky at best.

XP really isn't all that bad, I use it for old programs too valuable to lose and too expensive to replace. What I like is how easy it is to find files within the OS if I really need to get in there and monkey around. The stuff is all laid out there very logically.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Strange as it sounds, Windows XP runs better in my Mac than it ever did in a PC. Plus I have secure data back up not common to most PCs or even Macs--- Not only is my OS spread across several HDDs, but even if one failed and crashed, I would not lose anything, plus (the drives are even hot-swappable), I could have my entire computer crash during a write operation, and the half written file would be preserved in limbo until the computer was fixed and the file could be saved to the HDD.

Another strange thing is that there are no wires in my computer--- everything is so well designed that no wires or jumpers are needed. Lastly, whenever Apple writes a new OS, they are free to upgrade. And everything works. There is no need to debug programs or be a computer expert to make stuff work. Actually, the UNIX-type architecture is quite logical.

Oh yeah, one other thing that popped into my head--- last PC I had ran Windows 7--- if I needed to search for a file, a little dog came out with a flashlight and searched the computer serially one location at a time; it might take hours for the computer to search everywhere to find something! With the Mac, it is like Star Trek: I just type in the type of file I'm looking for or the name of it and as I type it in, the computer searches all locations at the same time and gives me its findings as I type so that by the time I am even done typing in the search parameter, the search is already done!

Oh yeah, since I bought my Mac Pro in 2011, I've never needed to buy another computer since. In fact, I don't even need to run an AV and have gone for years at a time without one. The difference between a Mac and a PC is like the difference between college and grade school. The only downside is that while Apple has tried to be very helpful over the years, sometimes the company is a bit odd and some of their stuff has a bit different way of doing things.

Back in the 80s I used to build my own PC computers, because I could do it cheaper than a store bought computer. I wanted an Apple, but they were high priced. I have a lot invested in Microsoft type of software. Maybe I will switch.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Believe me, I have thought about switching.

This is my last Windows platform. My phone is Apple and so will the next desktop.

I'm done paying for Bill Gates to geoengineer the planet or to go to Lolita Island

 

[toobfreak]

Back in the 80s I used to build my own PC computers, because I could do it cheaper than a store bought computer. I wanted an Apple, but they were high priced. I have a lot invested in Microsoft type of software. Maybe I will switch.

Yeah, I've been down that road too. I had a beautiful custom case, select AMD motherboard and chipset and it was actually a lovely PC, I put it all together--- that is until it got attacked one day and bought the blue screen of death. My last (store bought) PC after that was a Hewlett Packard running Windows 7. I brought it home and was appalled how clunky it was and not really ready to be used. A thousand things needed set up or fixed. I took it back immediately for a full refund and got a custom made MAC. Its a 45 pound beast but built to professional standards.

If you look at Macs, consider both new and used. Macs are really well built and you can spend over $12,000 for a really high end pro model, or you can get great deals on lesser consumer models. But be sure you know what you are buying before you buy it and are certain it fits your needs. Macs are a lot more money, but worth the money IMO if you are tired of changing PCs every 2-4 years or want something of more enduring quality and can afford it. Plus a lot of the Mac applications are really killer.

 

[toobfreak]

For those considering a Mac, here is a comparo of how they are built.

Here is a picture of the inside guts of my last store bought PC, a Hewlett-Packard i7:

it looks like something a room full of monkeys put together made from a half dozen different manufacturers all hobbled together. Best I can say is that it worked.

Here is the Macintosh that replaced it:

I kept the PC two days; I've kep the Mac 13 years. Nuff said.

 

[Ringel05]

This is my last Windows platform. My phone is Apple and so will the next desktop.

I'm done paying for Bill Gates to geoengineer the planet or to go to Lolita Island

Having made the switch recently I highly recommend watching "switch to mac" videos. Extremely helpful in learning how to navigate around MacOS. Also some good "best Mac apps" videos are helpful but don't go overboard. Safari is okay but I still use Firefox as my primary browser and Brave as my primary backup.
I have tried to get used to Safari but for now have not been able to.
Even now I'm still learning my way around MacOS.

 

[toobfreak]

Having made the switch recently I highly recommend watching "switch to mac" videos. Extremely helpful in learning how to navigate around MacOS.

I've found that if you can find your way around a PC, a Mac will be no problem, just that a few things are laid out differently.

Safari is okay but I still use Firefox as my primary browser and Brave as my primary backup.
I have tried to get used to Safari but for now have not been able to.

Yeah, Safari is OK, but I generally use Firefox. I haven't tried Brave but plan to add it. Occasionally, I'll run into something in a Mac that just isn't intuitive, and I wonder where Apple's thinking was doing it that way. Sometimes I think they did it just to be different. Sometimes it is a good idea.

One thing I DON'T like is the lack of a "SAVE AS" in many apps. You can still save as something, but you have to do it differently. Also, they use round "close, minimize, and maximize" screen app buttons which I find harder to use than the PC's square ones. They require more careful mouse placement. But lots of other things work better.

When I bought my Mac, I bought a book on the Snow Leopard operating system (what it came with). It was a book for PC users on how things are done in a Mac--- if THIS, then THAT sort of thing. I found that very helpful.

 

[Ringel05]

This is my last Windows platform. My phone is Apple and so will the next desktop.

I'm done paying for Bill Gates to geoengineer the planet or to go to Lolita Island

Be very careful buying one from EBay. There are a couple of companies that are scammers located out of Illinois. They typically have up to 50% of the used Mac listings on EBay. Once they are exposed they rebrand and relist. Currently their offerings appear to be Macbooks but they may branch out into Mac Minis.



For relatively inexpensive used refurbished/renewed Macs
Go with:
Mac of All Trades
Blackmarket.com
Apple Refurbished
Amazon
Best Buy

Personally I recommend going with a M1 chip on a Mac, the M2 chip isn't that much of a bump up and is twice as expensive.