What To Do About Syria?

[MJB12741]

For as long as both terrorist sides continue to massacre each other on their own soil in Syria, I hope the USA & Israel stay out of Syria's internal affairs. What could be better for the USA & Israel than our enemies killing each other?

For now I believe the USA & Israel should just do whatever possible to help end the suffering of innocent Syrian children. When the dust settles & we know who rules Syria, then we should pay Syria a visit to put an end to the use of chemical weapons.

 

[waltky]

Doubt if anyone other than Iran would join in on Syria's side...

Assad: Risk of regional war if West strikes Syria
Sep 2,`13 -- France released an intelligence report on Monday alleging chemical weapons use by Syria's regime that dovetailed with similar U.S. claims, as President Bashar Assad warned that any military strike against his country would spark an uncontrollable regional war and spread "chaos and extremism."

The verbal crossfire, including a rejection of the Western allegations by longtime Syrian ally Russia, was part of frenzied efforts on both sides to court international public opinion after President Barack Obama said he would seek authorization from Congress before launching any military action against Assad's regime.

In an interview with French newspaper Le Figaro, Assad was quoted as saying that Syria has challenged the U.S. and France to provide proof to support their allegations, but that their leaders "have been incapable of doing that, including before their own peoples." "If the Americans, the French or the British had a shred of proof, they would have shown it beginning on the first day," he said, deriding Obama as "weak" and having buckled to U.S. domestic political pressure. "We believe that a strong man is one who prevents war, not one who inflames it," Assad said.

Syrian refugees arrive at the Turkish Cilvegozu gate border, Monday, Sept. 2, 2013. Routine prevailed at a US-Turkish airbase in southern Turkey on Monday, a day after the US alleged that sarin gas was used in an August chemical weapons attack in Syria.

French President Francois Hollande and Obama have been the two world leaders most vocally calling for action against Assad's regime, accusing it of carrying out a deadly chemical attack against rebel-held suburbs of Damascus on Aug. 21. The U.S. said it has proof that the Assad regime is behind attacks that Washington claims killed at least 1,429 people, including more than 400 children. Those numbers are significantly higher than the death toll of 355 provided by the aid group Doctors Without Borders. It has marked an intolerable escalation in a two-year civil war in Syria that has left some 100,000 people dead.

The Syrian government denies the allegations, and blames opposition fighters. In the Figaro interview, Assad questioned whether an attack took place at all and refused to say whether his forces have chemical weapons, as is widely believed. If the U.S. and France strike, "Everyone will lose control of the situation ... Chaos and extremism will spread. The risk of a regional war exists," he added. To back up its case, the French government published a nine-page intelligence synopsis Monday that concluded Assad's regime had launched an attack on Aug. 21 involving a "massive use of chemical agents," and could carry out similar strikes in the future.

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U.S. Source: Intercepts show Syrian military officials talked about chemical attack afterward
August 29th, 2013 > CNN has learned the United States has intercepts of conversations among top Syrian military officials discussing the chemical weapons attack after it took place last week, according to a U.S. official.

The intercepts form a key basis for the conclusion that the Syrian regime was behind the attack. But another crucial piece of evidence about what type of chemicals may have been used remains to be determined. Tissue samples and other medical and forensic evidence taken from victims has not yet been fully analyzed, the official said. One source familiar with the latest intelligence said getting that information would provide the strongest case for the use of chemical weapons. CNN has previously reported Israeli military intelligence provided the United States with intercepts between Syrian military commanders discussing the movement of chemical weapons to the area of the attack before it happened, according to a diplomatic source.

The administration has said it would release a declassified version of its intelligence assessment about last week's attack outside Damascus. White House spokesman Josh Ernest said Thursday the declassified version is not yet complete but should be released by the end of the week. The intelligence includes an assessment of what level of involvement Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had in last week's chemical attack, but that information remains classified and might not be released to the American public, a senior U.S. official said. The White House is struggling with how much information to release publicly because it could compromise the sources of intelligence about who ordered the attack, the official said.

President Barack Obama said in an interview Wednesday the U.S. government has "concluded that the Syrian government in fact carried out" the attack - a sentiment echoed by U.S. officials across Washington. But one question remaining is whether the attack was ordered by al-Assad himself. On that question, the senior U.S. official said, the administration has a "very clear answer" - but declined to say what that answer is - citing the classified nature of the intelligence. The first U.S. official told CNN the intelligence assessment shows the attack was ordered at the "highest levels" of the regime. That official declined to specifically say whether al-Assad ordered the attack but did not rule it out. "We are not saying Assad himself had his finger on the button. But he is responsible for the stockpile and any attack like this would have to have been approved at the highest levels," he said. He rejected the notion the evidence of regime involvement was circumstantial. "We have a very solid case to indicate the regime was behind this."

That official said the evidence shows it was not a "rogue element" of the Syrian regime that carried out the attack, or the Syrian rebels. Another U.S. official echoed the idea that the intelligence assessment shows it was not a rogue element of the regime. None of these officials spoke on the record due to the sensitive nature of the information.

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[MJB12741]

Add America's enemies Putin & Hezbollah. Truly it is so tragic what Syria & their supporters have done to their own innocent children. Let us hope the children will see that it is not the USA &/or Israel who are their enemies.

Doubt if anyone other than Iran would join in on Syria's side...

Assad: Risk of regional war if West strikes Syria
Sep 2,`13 -- France released an intelligence report on Monday alleging chemical weapons use by Syria's regime that dovetailed with similar U.S. claims, as President Bashar Assad warned that any military strike against his country would spark an uncontrollable regional war and spread "chaos and extremism."

The verbal crossfire, including a rejection of the Western allegations by longtime Syrian ally Russia, was part of frenzied efforts on both sides to court international public opinion after President Barack Obama said he would seek authorization from Congress before launching any military action against Assad's regime.

In an interview with French newspaper Le Figaro, Assad was quoted as saying that Syria has challenged the U.S. and France to provide proof to support their allegations, but that their leaders "have been incapable of doing that, including before their own peoples." "If the Americans, the French or the British had a shred of proof, they would have shown it beginning on the first day," he said, deriding Obama as "weak" and having buckled to U.S. domestic political pressure. "We believe that a strong man is one who prevents war, not one who inflames it," Assad said.

Syrian refugees arrive at the Turkish Cilvegozu gate border, Monday, Sept. 2, 2013. Routine prevailed at a US-Turkish airbase in southern Turkey on Monday, a day after the US alleged that sarin gas was used in an August chemical weapons attack in Syria.

French President Francois Hollande and Obama have been the two world leaders most vocally calling for action against Assad's regime, accusing it of carrying out a deadly chemical attack against rebel-held suburbs of Damascus on Aug. 21. The U.S. said it has proof that the Assad regime is behind attacks that Washington claims killed at least 1,429 people, including more than 400 children. Those numbers are significantly higher than the death toll of 355 provided by the aid group Doctors Without Borders. It has marked an intolerable escalation in a two-year civil war in Syria that has left some 100,000 people dead.

The Syrian government denies the allegations, and blames opposition fighters. In the Figaro interview, Assad questioned whether an attack took place at all and refused to say whether his forces have chemical weapons, as is widely believed. If the U.S. and France strike, "Everyone will lose control of the situation ... Chaos and extremism will spread. The risk of a regional war exists," he added. To back up its case, the French government published a nine-page intelligence synopsis Monday that concluded Assad's regime had launched an attack on Aug. 21 involving a "massive use of chemical agents," and could carry out similar strikes in the future.

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See also:

U.S. Source: Intercepts show Syrian military officials talked about chemical attack afterward
August 29th, 2013 > CNN has learned the United States has intercepts of conversations among top Syrian military officials discussing the chemical weapons attack after it took place last week, according to a U.S. official.

The intercepts form a key basis for the conclusion that the Syrian regime was behind the attack. But another crucial piece of evidence about what type of chemicals may have been used remains to be determined. Tissue samples and other medical and forensic evidence taken from victims has not yet been fully analyzed, the official said. One source familiar with the latest intelligence said getting that information would provide the strongest case for the use of chemical weapons. CNN has previously reported Israeli military intelligence provided the United States with intercepts between Syrian military commanders discussing the movement of chemical weapons to the area of the attack before it happened, according to a diplomatic source.

The administration has said it would release a declassified version of its intelligence assessment about last week's attack outside Damascus. White House spokesman Josh Ernest said Thursday the declassified version is not yet complete but should be released by the end of the week. The intelligence includes an assessment of what level of involvement Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had in last week's chemical attack, but that information remains classified and might not be released to the American public, a senior U.S. official said. The White House is struggling with how much information to release publicly because it could compromise the sources of intelligence about who ordered the attack, the official said.

President Barack Obama said in an interview Wednesday the U.S. government has "concluded that the Syrian government in fact carried out" the attack - a sentiment echoed by U.S. officials across Washington. But one question remaining is whether the attack was ordered by al-Assad himself. On that question, the senior U.S. official said, the administration has a "very clear answer" - but declined to say what that answer is - citing the classified nature of the intelligence. The first U.S. official told CNN the intelligence assessment shows the attack was ordered at the "highest levels" of the regime. That official declined to specifically say whether al-Assad ordered the attack but did not rule it out. "We are not saying Assad himself had his finger on the button. But he is responsible for the stockpile and any attack like this would have to have been approved at the highest levels," he said. He rejected the notion the evidence of regime involvement was circumstantial. "We have a very solid case to indicate the regime was behind this."

That official said the evidence shows it was not a "rogue element" of the Syrian regime that carried out the attack, or the Syrian rebels. Another U.S. official echoed the idea that the intelligence assessment shows it was not a rogue element of the regime. None of these officials spoke on the record due to the sensitive nature of the information.

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[R.C. Christian]

America can't and won't stay out of Syria because it's hellbent on taking Iran. Has nothing to do with who is the bad guy or who is the good guy. Foreign policy is driving this.

 

[Bluedog]

Learn the lesson from Iraq. Do not get involved with Syria,period!

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I believe if Obama strikes Syria it will be the greatest mistake of his presidency. Bar none. It will also bring with it devastating consequences of which we cannot imagine. I do not believe Iran is the tipping point. I believe it's Syria. May G-d help us all if he does this.

 

[Moonglow]

Yes, just let the kids die cause you don't carer, someday maybe it could be yours.

 

[MJB12741]

Had Syria signed a peace treaty with Israel, the innocent Syrian children could have been helped by Israel. Truly I see the children as the only justification for the USA to pay Syria a visit. But only after all the dust settles as to who will be ruling Syria when their terrorist massacre of each other is over so we will know who we will be dealing with.

 

[Ava]

Yes, just let the kids die cause you don't carer, someday maybe it could be yours.

Point is...nothing would be accomplished if we went into Syria for a few days of missiles, then left. You really think the Assad regime would stop it's warfare because of an impotent scared non-leader like Barack Obama?? You really think Assad hasn't already moved his WMDs?

 

[Circe]

Had Syria signed a peace treaty with Israel, the innocent Syrian children could have been helped by Israel. Truly I see the children as the only justification for the USA to pay Syria a visit. But only after all the dust settles as to who will be ruling Syria when their terrorist massacre of each other is over so we will know who we will be dealing with.

So what, we're going to blow up Syria with lots of cruise missiles that kill hundreds of children so we can teach Assad not to kill children?

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.


Not.

 

[dilloduck]

Had Syria signed a peace treaty with Israel, the innocent Syrian children could have been helped by Israel. Truly I see the children as the only justification for the USA to pay Syria a visit. But only after all the dust settles as to who will be ruling Syria when their terrorist massacre of each other is over so we will know who we will be dealing with.

So what, we're going to blow up Syria with lots of cruise missiles that kill hundreds of children so we can teach Assad not to kill children?

Oh, yeah, that makes sense.


Not.

But we just have to---Assad did it first....

 

[R.C. Christian]

Yes, just let the kids die cause you don't carer, someday maybe it could be yours.

Spare us your imaginary concern. That is such a ridiculous statement that I don't even feel like elaborating further.