What is energy, gravity, and consciousness?

[Votto]

Most don't really think about these things, rather, we just accept that they are because we see the effects of them. For example, gravity has no particles and, therefore, nothing to study about it other than its effects on other objects.

But can't we in many ways say the same about God as we see the effects of his invisible hand at work as well?

 

[toobfreak]

What is energy, gravity, and consciousness?​

God.

• Energy is God.
• Gravity is space within which resides the energy.
• God is consciousness.
• Consciousness is energy.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Fish eyed FooL !

 

[scruffy]

• Consciousness is energy.

Consciousness is thermodynamic. It obeys the laws of thermodynamics. For example many neural networks work by minimizing residual free energy. You can look at this process as a more complex version of a gas coming to an equilibrium in a geometrically constrained setting, except here there are lots of gasses in the same box and they all interact with each other.

The simple thermodynamics we are taught in high school and college is a "mean field approximation", it's a greatly simplified version of reality. The ideal Boltzmann gas ignores things like long range correlations between molecules - which is why this model is incapable of describing the phase changes in a spin glass.

In reality consciousness is an open high dimensional nonlinear system. It's all the things that mathematicians hate because they're so hard to describe. A great example is what they call "predictive coding", which is totally different from the back propagation used in modern AI (in fact it's the antithesis of back propagation, everything is local and there is no artificial synchronization).

Our brains are constantly trying to predict the future. We do this at multiple time scales that interact with each other. The "minimization of residual free energy" equates with the maximization of expectation, that's where the thermodynamics comes in. Modern machine learning is full of examples of maximum likelihood equating with minimization of energy (check out how "cost functions" are derived).

In consciousness you have a bunch of predictive systems operating at different time scales, and they all interact with each other. The correlations between the different time scales is something we don't usually find in nature, except in the rarest and most complex of cases. Basically such systems are never at equilibrium, they have nonlinear nonequilibrium thermodynamics. But they can still have stable states, several Nobel prizes were issued in the 70's and 80's for examples.

 

[luiza]

But can't we in many ways say the same about God as we see the effects of his invisible hand at work as well?

QUOTE.
So the absence of something is the very proof of its
existence .

It is Gobbledygook like that which makes Cult Religions the Top of the Flops .

 

[Votto]

QUOTE.
So the absence of something is the very proof of its
existence .

It is Gobbledygook like that which makes Cult Religions the Top of the Flops .

Have you ever considered the conundrum of gravity?

There are no particles, but it is observed every day, which is why you never question it.

But how does it work? Ask most people and they will say that something with a higher mass pulls in matter with a lower mass, which is completely wrong.

This is a more accurate representation of what is going on.



So, the larger them mass, the more it warps the matrix of space, or in the case of the demonstration, the blanket.

But there is a problem. We are not talking about a blanket, we are talking about "empty space"

It seems that space is not so empty after all, there is a matrix there that is not detectable.

Creepy.

 

[luiza]

So, the larger them mass, the more it warps the matrix of space, or in the case of the demonstration, the blanket.

But there is a problem. We are not talking about a blanket, we are talking about "empty space"

It seems that space is not so empty after all, there is a matrix there that is not detectable.

That is the crux of it .
Space is not emptiness . Rather it better termed the Aether, which has wave energy properties and is a field force .

That is my understanding but I am doing a Turdy Tommy and only repeating what I have read .

Any better or more up-to-date conclusions based on experimental verification ?

 

[Votto]

That is the crux of it .
Space is not emptiness . Rather it better termed the Aether, which has wave energy properties and is a field force .

That is my understanding but I am doing a Turdy Tommy and only repeating what I have read .

Any better or more up-to-date conclusions based on experimental verification ?

Ok, empty space is a field force you can't measure in any way.

Not sure that makes me feel any differently about it,, but Ok.

Yea, it's still creepy.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Have you ever considered the conundrum of gravity?

There are no particles, but it is observed every day, which is why you never question it.

But how does it work? Ask most people and they will say that something with a higher mass pulls in matter with a lower mass, which is completely wrong.

This is a more accurate representation of what is going on.



So, the larger them mass, the more it warps the matrix of space, or in the case of the demonstration, the blanket.

But there is a problem. We are not talking about a blanket, we are talking about "empty space"

It seems that space is not so empty after all, there is a matrix there that is not detectable.

Creepy.

From One Runway to Another

The Quantum Leap is impossible without a fourth spatial dimension to go into and come back from at its 3D destination. Therefore, using the warping-space explanation of gravity, 3D space would be affected by 4D, just like heat warps certain flat objects. So mass creates heat in 4D.

Another explanation is that gravitons are parts of atoms submerged in 4D.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That is the crux of it .
Space is not emptiness . Rather it better termed the Aether, which has wave energy properties and is a field force .

That is my understanding but I am doing a Turdy Tommy and only repeating what I have read .

Any better or conclusions

Bang from the Big Volcano

A substance that contained within itself matter, energy, light, and space entered the framework of this universe at the square of the speed of light. It lost velocity as it was broken up into those parts. It created space, which drags light down to c.

All is lava.

 

[ReinyDays]

Sure ... find a stupid physicist and you too can make yourself feel good ... "I don't know what energy is" means he's not a physicist ...

 

[scruffy]

Sure ... find a stupid physicist and you too can make yourself feel good ... "I don't know what energy is" means he's not a physicist ...

Hm. Could be a libtard physicist. They don't know what women are either.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Most don't really think about these things, rather, we just accept that they are because we see the effects of them. For example, gravity has no particles and, therefore, nothing to study about it other than its effects on other objects.

But can't we in many ways say the same about God as we see the effects of his invisible hand at work as well?

Sure, you can pour that nonsense over anything.

Flat tire? Hand of God.

It provides no insight, changes nothing, and yields no useful predictions. It has no effect on anything whatsoever.

A strong clue that it's worthless nonsense.

 

[Leo123]

Have you ever considered the conundrum of gravity?

There are no particles, but it is observed every day, which is why you never question it.

But how does it work? Ask most people and they will say that something with a higher mass pulls in matter with a lower mass, which is completely wrong.

This is a more accurate representation of what is going on.



So, the larger them mass, the more it warps the matrix of space, or in the case of the demonstration, the blanket.

But there is a problem. We are not talking about a blanket, we are talking about "empty space"

It seems that space is not so empty after all, there is a matrix there that is not detectable.

Creepy.

Yes, we can only see the result of the matrix but we don't know what it really is made of.

 

[scruffy]

Yes, we can only see the result of the matrix but we don't know what it really is made of.

Sure we do. It's made of waves of energy. When the waves come together in just the right way, you get a particle. The particle may wink in and out of existence, but at some point the energy has taken the form of matter.

The conversion of energy to matter is sometimes reversible, sometimes not. It depends on the stability of the matter relative to its surroundings, and what happens to be nearby at the time. There is no matrix, it's a continuum to at least 73 decimal places. That's a lot of zeros.

 

[Votto]

Yes, we can only see the result of the matrix but we don't know what it really is made of.

And like the invisible matrix, we see the results of the invisible hand of God such as the creation of the universe and the creation of life itself to enjoy it.

Funny that.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

 

[Votto]

Sure ... find a stupid physicist and you too can make yourself feel good ... "I don't know what energy is" means he's not a physicist ...

Thanks for knowing absolutely nothing other than how to be condescending.

It makes all the difference.

I may not be a smart man about physics but at least I know what a woman is.

 

[Votto]

From One Runway to Another

The Quantum Leap is impossible without a fourth spatial dimension to go into and come back from at its 3D destination. Therefore, using the warping-space explanation of gravity, 3D space would be affected by 4D, just like heat warps certain flat objects. So mass creates heat in 4D.

Another explanation is that gravitons are parts of atoms submerged in 4D.

Without question there are other dimensions, which probably is the key to all this. Science even agrees but conceptualizing them is difficult when you have no real points of reference to understand them and studying them is near impossible other than to see their effects.

 

[ReinyDays]

Thanks for knowing absolutely nothing other than how to be condescending.

It makes all the difference.

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I may not be a smart man about physics but at least I know what a woman is.

Thank you for the ad hominem attack ... you know I'm right, and have nothing else but my person to comment upon ...

Lazy ...