Zone1 What exactly is a sect?

[Zebra]

Sometimes the Catholic Church is called a sect.

Methinks the Catholic Church is the original church.

It can never be a sect.

Some others may be, but not the Catholics

 

[Muhammed]

Sometimes the Catholic Church is called a sect.

Methinks the Catholic Church is the original church.

It can never be a sect.

Some others may be, but not the Catholics

The same root as section.

 

[Zebra]

Catholic means all

 

[Muhammed]

Catholic means all

Good point. I was mistaken.

It doesn't mean to section, it means to follow a particular path. If you follow the Catholic path, you are of the Catholic sect.

 

[luiza]

What exactly is a sect?​

A group that has avoided being labelled a CULT .

Christianity being a perfect example .

 

[BreezeWood]

dispensation from the true 1st century events ... phony 4th century christian bible.

 

[Zebra]

Good point. I was mistaken.

It doesn't mean to section, it means to follow a particular path. If you follow the Catholic path, you are of the Catholic sect.

No.

A sect is a splinter group.

In the very beginning, the Christians started as a Jewish sect.

Now they are no sect any more.

Nor are the Catholics

 

[ding]

Sometimes the Catholic Church is called a sect.

Methinks the Catholic Church is the original church.

It can never be a sect.

Some others may be, but not the Catholics

Why isn't it a sect of Judaism? Does your bible not contain an OT section?

 

[ding]

What exactly is a sect? A group that has avoided being labelled a CULT .Christianity being a perfect example .​

You don't need to use pretzel logic, technically, all religions are cults. Religion is the original basis for that word. It wasn't always used in such a negative fashion as you are trying to use it now.

The word "cult" has religious origins from the Latin cultus (meaning "worship," "care," or "cultivation"), initially describing a system of worship or a specific religious practice, like the cult of Dionysus. However, its meaning evolved, and by the 19th century, it gained negative connotations, referring to unorthodox or spurious religions, and later to groups with excessive devotion or manipulative practices, a shift from its original neutral religious basis.

Evolution of the Word "Cult"

1. Latin Roots (Cultus): The word stems from Latin, relating to tilling the soil, care, training, and eventually, worship or adoration, sharing roots with words like "culture" and "cultivate".
2. Early English Usage (17th Century): The first English uses meant "worship" or a specific set of devotional rites, as in the "cult of the Virgin Mary" or Roman imperial cults.
3. Broadening Meanings (18th Century): It began to refer to intense, non-religious devotion to a person, idea, or fad (e.g., "the cult of success").
4. Modern Negative Sense (19th Century Onward): The term started being applied to new or unorthodox religious movements, often with negative judgments, and now frequently describes groups seen as manipulative or harmful.

Key Takeaway
While "cult" began as a neutral term for religious devotion, its meaning shifted from describing a specific religious practice or branch to labeling groups perceived as dangerous or unorthodox, a change that has made the term highly controversial.

 

[Zebra]

Why isn't it a sect of Judaism?

In the beginning it was

 

[ding]

In the beginning it was

Jesus came first for the Jewish people, fulfilling Old Testament promises as their Messiah, but His mission expanded to include all people (Jews and Gentiles), offering salvation and eternal life to everyone who believes in Him, as commanded in the Great Commission to "make disciples of all nations".

Initial Focus: The "Lost Sheep of Israel"

• Jesus' earthly ministry began by focusing on the Israelites, the chosen people in the Bible, to redeem and restore their nation, as prophesied.
• He instructed His disciples to go first to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 10:5-6)

Universal Mission: "All Nations"

• While starting with Israel, Jesus' ultimate purpose was universal, as shown by His compassion for Gentiles (non-Jews) and Samaritans.
• After His resurrection, He commissioned His followers to spread His message to "all nations," making salvation available to everyone, regardless of background.

The Core Message: For Everyone

• The New Testament emphasizes that Jesus' sacrifice was for the sins of "all people" (Luke 4:14-21).
• His people today are not defined by ethnicity but by faith in Him, as "there is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28-29).

 

[Hafar1014]

A sect is subculture of a larger culture

 

[ding]

A sect is subculture of a larger culture

late Middle English: from Old French secte or Latin secta, literally ‘following’, hence ‘faction, party’, from the stem of sequi ‘follow’.

The term "sect" can apply to groups beyond religion, extending to political, philosophical, or social factions that break from a larger body to follow distinct beliefs or practices, though it's most commonly associated with religious splinter groups like Shia within Islam or Baptists within Christianity. Essentially, any group diverging with a unique "school of thought" from a main organization can be termed a sect, encompassing everything from economic theories (socialists vs. capitalists) to scientific ideas.

 

[luiza]

Key Takeaway

Try learning to spot slick humour .

And avoid verbosity .

 

[Zebra]

Jesus came first for the Jewish people, fulfilling Old Testament promises as their Messiah, but His mission expanded to include all people (Jews and Gentiles), offering salvation and eternal life to everyone who believes in Him, as commanded in the Great Commission to "make disciples of all nations".

Initial Focus: The "Lost Sheep of Israel"

• Jesus' earthly ministry began by focusing on the Israelites, the chosen people in the Bible, to redeem and restore their nation, as prophesied.
• He instructed His disciples to go first to the "lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matthew 10:5-6)

Universal Mission: "All Nations"

• While starting with Israel, Jesus' ultimate purpose was universal, as shown by His compassion for Gentiles (non-Jews) and Samaritans.
• After His resurrection, He commissioned His followers to spread His message to "all nations," making salvation available to everyone, regardless of background.

The Core Message: For Everyone

• The New Testament emphasizes that Jesus' sacrifice was for the sins of "all people" (Luke 4:14-21).
• His people today are not defined by ethnicity but by faith in Him, as "there is neither Jew nor Greek... for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28-29).

So salvation is for Jews and Christian’s only?

 

[ding]

Try learning to spot slick humour .

And avoid verbosity .

Maybe take the stick out of your ass.

It wasn't a huge leap in logic that you believe all religions are "bad" cults. The message I was sending to you is that that's not how it started out for that word.

 

[ding]

So salvation is for Jews and Christian’s only?

First of all my focus is on the journey not the destination. Secondly, I'd prefer to not speak for God. As a Catholic you should know no one knows their fate or the fate of others except for the saints we know about and the saints we don't know about.

To your point.... the statement "His mission expanded to include all people (Jews and Gentiles)..." says "all people." I don't believe the part "(Jews and Gentiles)" was intended as a limitation or to contradict all people.

 

[badbob85037]

Sometimes the Catholic Church is called a sect.

Methinks the Catholic Church is the original church.

It can never be a sect.

Some others may be, but not the Catholics

It is when two or more people get together and one becomes its God.