Trump's deportations may face challenge as prison punishment without a trial

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‘Trump has pressed for quickly deporting hundreds of Venezuelan and Salvadoran men who are said to belong to a foreign crime gang.

Those deportations have been challenged as illegal — and last week, blocked by the Supreme Court — if the detained men are not given a hearing to argue they are not gang members.

But Trump's deportations are unusual and may face a legal challenge for a different reason. Most of the deported men will not be sent back to their home country but instead to a maximum security prison in El Salvador where they can be held indefinitely.

Sending someone to prison "constitutes punishment," says UCLA law professor Ahilan Arulanantham. Before imprisoning people, including noncitizens, the government is required under the Constitution to charge the defendants with a crime and to prove their guilt in a jury trial, he said.’


It is a fact of law settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – immigrants must be afforded comprehensive due process to challenge government allegations of ‘gang membership.’

And subjecting immigrants to imprisonment constitutes criminal prosecution, where those accused must be found guilty of a crime in a jury trial.

Trump's immigration policy is illegal and un-Constitutional.
 
‘Trump has pressed for quickly deporting hundreds of Venezuelan and Salvadoran men who are said to belong to a foreign crime gang.

Those deportations have been challenged as illegal — and last week, blocked by the Supreme Court — if the detained men are not given a hearing to argue they are not gang members.

But Trump's deportations are unusual and may face a legal challenge for a different reason. Most of the deported men will not be sent back to their home country but instead to a maximum security prison in El Salvador where they can be held indefinitely.

Sending someone to prison "constitutes punishment," says UCLA law professor Ahilan Arulanantham. Before imprisoning people, including noncitizens, the government is required under the Constitution to charge the defendants with a crime and to prove their guilt in a jury trial, he said.’


It is a fact of law settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – immigrants must be afforded comprehensive due process to challenge government allegations of ‘gang membership.’

And subjecting immigrants to imprisonment constitutes criminal prosecution, where those accused must be found guilty of a crime in a jury trial.

Trump's immigration policy is illegal and un-Constitutional.


Nope. And SCOTUS just said they can ask for relief only under habeas.
 
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‘Trump has pressed for quickly deporting hundreds of Venezuelan and Salvadoran men who are said to belong to a foreign crime gang.

Those deportations have been challenged as illegal — and last week, blocked by the Supreme Court — if the detained men are not given a hearing to argue they are not gang members.

But Trump's deportations are unusual and may face a legal challenge for a different reason. Most of the deported men will not be sent back to their home country but instead to a maximum security prison in El Salvador where they can be held indefinitely.

Sending someone to prison "constitutes punishment," says UCLA law professor Ahilan Arulanantham. Before imprisoning people, including noncitizens, the government is required under the Constitution to charge the defendants with a crime and to prove their guilt in a jury trial, he said.’


It is a fact of law settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – immigrants must be afforded comprehensive due process to challenge government allegations of ‘gang membership.’

And subjecting immigrants to imprisonment constitutes criminal prosecution, where those accused must be found guilty of a crime in a jury trial.

Trump's immigration policy is illegal and un-Constitutional.
From one of your links...

"Recently, Trump and his top advisors met in the Oval Office with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele and were almost gleeful in saying that nothing could be done to return any of those prisoners once they had left this country."

That is not journalism, that is bullshit.
 
‘Trump has pressed for quickly deporting hundreds of Venezuelan and Salvadoran men who are said to belong to a foreign crime gang.

Those deportations have been challenged as illegal — and last week, blocked by the Supreme Court — if the detained men are not given a hearing to argue they are not gang members.

But Trump's deportations are unusual and may face a legal challenge for a different reason. Most of the deported men will not be sent back to their home country but instead to a maximum security prison in El Salvador where they can be held indefinitely.

Sending someone to prison "constitutes punishment," says UCLA law professor Ahilan Arulanantham. Before imprisoning people, including noncitizens, the government is required under the Constitution to charge the defendants with a crime and to prove their guilt in a jury trial, he said.’


It is a fact of law settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – immigrants must be afforded comprehensive due process to challenge government allegations of ‘gang membership.’

And subjecting immigrants to imprisonment constitutes criminal prosecution, where those accused must be found guilty of a crime in a jury trial.

Trump's immigration policy is illegal and un-Constitutional.
Why has no one brought up the 8th Amendment's protections against cruel and unusual punishments? Wouldn't this be a textbook case especially since Trump has actually verbalized wanting to ship American criminals to foreign prisons like the one in El Salvador?
 
Sounds like Jan 6 BS huh. Held without trials forever.

Hmmm suddenly you care when its your uninvited gang guests.
 
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‘Trump has pressed for quickly deporting hundreds of Venezuelan and Salvadoran men who are said to belong to a foreign crime gang.

Those deportations have been challenged as illegal — and last week, blocked by the Supreme Court — if the detained men are not given a hearing to argue they are not gang members.

But Trump's deportations are unusual and may face a legal challenge for a different reason. Most of the deported men will not be sent back to their home country but instead to a maximum security prison in El Salvador where they can be held indefinitely.

Sending someone to prison "constitutes punishment," says UCLA law professor Ahilan Arulanantham. Before imprisoning people, including noncitizens, the government is required under the Constitution to charge the defendants with a crime and to prove their guilt in a jury trial, he said.’


It is a fact of law settled, accepted, and beyond dispute – immigrants must be afforded comprehensive due process to challenge government allegations of ‘gang membership.’

And subjecting immigrants to imprisonment constitutes criminal prosecution, where those accused must be found guilty of a crime in a jury trial.

Trump's immigration policy is illegal and un-Constitutional.
came in without due process should leave with the same
 
You shitlib peckerheads didn't give fuck #1 while J6ers with misdemeanor charges were languishing in jail for three years, so fuck off.

Those fucks have no credibility.
Yeah
Fucking the fuck off is a good idea.
 
80/20 much OP?

80% want CRIMINALS deported. Not law abiding family members, with jobs, spouses and children in the USA.

The majority of the people Trump is deporting, are in the USA legally. The 80/20 split you speak of 80% of the American people DISAPPROVE of Trump's handling of immigration.
 
80% want CRIMINALS deported. Not law abiding family members, with jobs, spouses and children in the USA.

The majority of the people Trump is deporting, are in the USA legally. The 80/20 split you speak of 80% of the American people DISAPPROVE of Trump's handling of immigration.

66% of Americans want all illegal aliens deported.

Turn off the CBC.
 
NO they do not. They want CRIMINALS deported, and there are damn few criminals trying to get into the USA.

CBS’s Brennan Thrown for Loop By Poll Showing 62% Want All Undocumented Migrants Deported​

 

CBS’s Brennan Thrown for Loop By Poll Showing 62% Want All Undocumented Migrants Deported​


Link???? Because the ONLY time the polling has been that high was in June of 2024 - a year ago. The reality of Trump's proposal and his methods have hit home, and Trump is way underwater on immigration.

 
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