The way for GOP to "win" this politically is simple, but they won't because they love excess spending too: "pass a bare bones Bill to keep govt open"

[shockedcanadian]

That is all they need to do. The very basic funding for the next 3 months with no added bells or whistles.

Pass it overwhelmingly and let Schumer kill it in the senate. At worst, the shutdown occurs until Trump takes office and then GOP have full control.

Simple. The blame will go entirely on the Dems for denying the Bill.

it is so easy, so rudimentary a solution that surely the GOP will do this, right?

 

[kyzr]

A "clean" CR still won't satisfy Chip Roy and his "deficit hawks". They want budget cuts now not a CR.

 

[wamose]

They need to get everyone in a room and decide how many more cuts need to be made to get them all to vote for it. Then just do it.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

That is all they need to do. The very basic funding for the next 3 months with no added bells or whistles.

Pass it overwhelmingly and let Schumer kill it in the senate. At worst, the shutdown occurs until Trump takes office and then GOP have full control.

Simple. The blame will go entirely on the Dems for denying the Bill.

it is so easy, so rudimentary a solution that surely the GOP will do this, right?

They lose either way. And Trump and Musk get the blame.
Republicans...can't govern. Doesn't bode well for the next four years.

 

[shockedcanadian]

They need to get everyone in a room and decide how many more cuts need to be made to get them all to vote for it. Then just do it.

The problem is, way too many GOP just want to pass a final Bill for the Dems.

 

[Oddball]

Shut it all down until January.

Don't GAF about the bureaucrats.

 

[Oddball]

They need to get everyone in a room and decide how many more cuts need to be made to get them all to vote for it. Then just do it.

Never going to happen...All of the demoncrats and 2/3 of the "republicans" want more spending on everything.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Shut it all down until January.

Don't GAF about the bureaucrats.

That's what makes this even worse, the shutdown is only going to be for a month.

GOP are horrible politicians. I mean, just really poor negotiators and they seem to be devoid of the situation.

 

[Blaster]

Republicans waste too much time fighting among themselves while Democrats remain unified.

 

[Marener]

Republicans waste too much time fighting among themselves while Democrats remain unified.

Republicans made it a mortal sin to compromise with Democrats.

That wasn't enough.

Now they made it a mortal sin to compromise with other Republicans.

We've been telling you that Republicans can't run government for years. This is just more proof.

 

[Oddball]

That's what makes this even worse, the shutdown is only going to be for a month.

GOP are horrible politicians. I mean, just really poor negotiators and they seem to be devoid of the situation.

"Worse" in what way?

The "worst" thing I can think of is that most Muricans will notice nothing happens and wonder why we need a $6-$7 trillion dollar gubmint.

 

[kyzr]

The last I heard the 116 page Bill will be split into 3-Bills:
1. Clean CR
2. $110b disaster relief
3. Extend Farm Aid

The Debt Ceiling will be acted on later.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Here is a very easy way to do this.

Cut it all by 30 cents on the dollar.

Boom, done.

paste special values multiply by .7.

There. I cut the budget 30% in 10 seconds.

 

[jwoodie]

A government shutdown means nothing more than ADDITIONAL PAID VACATION for federal workers. Any delay in their paychecks can be made up with low cost payday loans from their credit unions. WHAT A DEAL!

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The problem is, way too many GOP just want to pass a final Bill for the Dems.

Err...go drink some more egg nog, but go easier on the spike this time.

Why can’t you defend what you write in a reasonable intellectual concerned citizen sort of way.

What White Christians Have Wrought | TIME

Trump’s Electoral College victory in 2016. was made possible because, as noted by the Pew Research Center’s validated voter study, 77% of white evangelical Protestant Christians, along with 57% of white non-evangelical Protestants and 64% of white Catholics, lent him moral legitimacy and gave him their votes.​

Do you agree that data is correct?

This data will explain to you why Republicans in a majority cannot govern a free society or freedom of conscience is guaranteed to every law, abiding citizen.

Musk and his half a trillion dollars of net worth can change the fact that the Republican Party is a white grievance, cultural movement with no place to go but hoping for the second coming of Jesus Christ to lead his kingdom on earth as it is in heaven.

 

[Godboy]

They lose either way. And Trump and Musk get the blame.
Republicans...can't govern. Doesn't bode well for the next four years.

Why are you using the word "blame"? Why arent you using the word "credit" instead? Musk and Trump are trying not to print billions of dollars. Dont they deserve CREDIT for that?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

That is all they need to do. The very basic funding for the next 3 months with no added bells or whistles.

They can’t do that because the white Christian oligarchy now led by Elon Musk, I guess because he has the most money, told them not to., Then the pure white Christian nationalist house speaker. Mike Johnson went back on his word that he gave to the Democrats and pulled the bill before it could be voted on. Because he is afraid of musk..

Now the problem is there are 38 Republicans who went on record against the Trump Musk version last night.

Republicans are basically fucked and they’ll probably end up going back to the original bill white Christian naturalist speaker House. Johnson shook hands with Hakeem Jefferies and said they had a deal.

White Christian national speaker Johnson went back on his word. He’s a shitty ass Christian in my opinion.

and now he’s going to lose his job.

Jesus Christ himself could not hold his job.

 

[Edgetho]

99.9% of dimocrap scum are Deep-Staters but there is a significant portion of the Republican Party that is, as well.

It isn't dimocrap scum alone that have no regard for The People. There is The State, and there is The People.

I side with The People. dimocrap scum side with The State. The think The State, and only The State, can fix what's wrong with America. Which, to dimocrap scum is -- A lot. Really a LOT.

Republicans don't like Government or Politicians, even our own. dimocrap scum think the Sun rises and sets on goobermint and Politicians. They are their Heroes.

There is your basic difference between Left and Right. Plus the fact that Leftists are scum. That's kind of a biggie

 

[whutTHEYsay]

99.9% of dimocrap scum are Deep-Staters but there is a significant portion of the Republican Party that is, as well.

It isn't dimocrap scum alone that have no regard for The People. There is The State, and there is The People.

I side with The People. dimocrap scum side with The State. The think The State, and only The State, can fix what's wrong with America. Which, to dimocrap scum is -- A lot. Really a LOT.

Republicans don't like Government or Politicians, even our own. dimocrap scum think the Sun rises and sets on goobermint and Politicians. They are their Heroes.

There is your basic difference between Left and Right. Plus the fact that Leftists are scum. That's kind of a biggie

you are siding with a white Christian nationalist oligarchy headed now by president elect Elon Musk.

 

[Edgetho]

They can’t do that because white Christian oligarchy now led by Elon Musk, I guess because he has the most money, told them not to., Then the pure white Christian nationalist house speaker. Mike Johnson went back on his word that he gave her the Democrats and pulled the bill before it could be voted on. Because he is afraid of musk..

Now the problem is there are 38 Republicans who went on record against the Trump Musk version last night.

Republicans are basically fucked and they’ll probably end up going back to the original bill white Christian naturalist speaker House. Johnson shook hands with Hakeem Jefferies and said they had a deal.

White Christian national speaker Johnson went back on his word. He’s a shitty ass Christian in my opinion.

and now he’s going to lose his job.

Jesus Christ himself could not hold his job.

The House, the Senate, The Presidency, The Supreme Court...... 312 - 226 bitch. Suck on it.

All dimocrap scum can do now is try to hand Trump the worst possible Country. To try to ruin the Country before Trump moves in, to try to cause as much damage as possible. wreck the economy, the military, the whole shebang if they can. So much so, that they can make a come back in 2026.

That is their only strategy. To hurt the Country. By any means possible

That is the goal of dimocrap FILTH right now. They don't give a FUCK about the American People and never have. Everything they do is geared toward winning, toward gaining power.

It's all they care about.

Eggs, meet omelet