The ugly truths of history war should be required in high school

[RodISHI]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

 

[Fenton Lum]

What should be required in school is the reality of how this land mass was "settled".

 

[RodISHI]

What should be required in school is the reality of how this land mass was "settled".

A lot of that was covered when I went to school forty plus years ago. Schools dropped a lot of history over the years in favor of being politically correct. Many family members also shared a lot of their history. On the other hand many knew only bits and pieces as it wasn't cool to be half or more native American and their family history consisted of a lot of misery.
Trail of Tears

 

[OldLady]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

 

[Fenton Lum]

What should be required in school is the reality of how this land mass was "settled".

A lot of that was covered when I went to school forty plus years ago. Schools dropped a lot of history over the years in favor of being politically correct. Many family members also shared a lot of their history. On the other hand many knew only bits and pieces as it wasn't cool to be half or more native American and their family history consisted of a lot of misery.
Trail of Tears

And that was only one little episode.

I grew up in a small town along one of the trails used on that relocation where they were marched across the Mississippi River. They named the town Jackson, after Andrew, who told the Supreme Court to basically go fuck themselves, he was doing this anyway. They still to this day call their middle, jr high, and high school sports teams the Jackson Indians.

I'm 62 now, it wasn't covered then either, not really.

 

[OldLady]

Maybe some people here should be forced to watch, too.
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[Fenton Lum]

Maybe some people here should be forced to watch, too.
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Absolutely. The only difference is in who gets targeted, the pathology is the same.

 

[RodISHI]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

Actually the teaching of historic events that shape the world we now live in isn't being taught and a lot of these kids growing up have no clue as they play fantasy video games. Some older adults I know are no better than their prodigy in that area of having decency and respect or any humility when it comes to other human beings. On the other hand many in this society has gotten so wrapped up in being worried about feelings and forcing agendas they have no clue what real abuse is.

 

[RodISHI]

Maybe some people here should be forced to watch, too.
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You are free to suggest that to them.

It is obvious that a lot of ignorance abounds out there as propaganda and even force is used to try to make people come around to 'their way' of thinking. I do know that this country needs an overhaul in a lot of areas and force won't accomplish much other than force in kind will eventually ensue against the perpetrators of the initial violence. Who knows maybe that is the end game for the big money people backing some of the crap that has been going down.

 

[OldLady]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

Actually the teaching of historic events that shape the world we now live in isn't being taught and a lot of these kids growing up have no clue as they play fantasy video games. Some older adults I know are no better than their prodigy in that area of having decency and respect or any humility when it comes to other human beings. On the other hand many in this society has gotten so wrapped up in being worried about feelings and forcing agendas they have no clue what real abuse is.

Yeah, I work with high school drop outs who don't know what the 4th of July is for and can't name the three branches of government, and don't have a clue what century Europe settled America. I like to think that's because they dropped out, but I don't know for sure.
Not so sure kids are as unfeeling and unaware as you think, though. They may need a little firmer hand in some colleges, but I think at least they have enough respect NOT to want to spread racist hate or bigotry against gays. That's something, even if they do get a little overzealous.

 

[RodISHI]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

Actually the teaching of historic events that shape the world we now live in isn't being taught and a lot of these kids growing up have no clue as they play fantasy video games. Some older adults I know are no better than their prodigy in that area of having decency and respect or any humility when it comes to other human beings. On the other hand many in this society has gotten so wrapped up in being worried about feelings and forcing agendas they have no clue what real abuse is.

Yeah, I work with high school drop outs who don't know what the 4th of July is for and can't name the three branches of government, and don't have a clue what century Europe settled America. I like to think that's because they dropped out, but I don't know for sure.
Not so sure kids are as unfeeling and unaware as you think, though. They may need a little firmer hand in some colleges, but I think at least they have enough respect NOT to want to spread racist hate or bigotry against gays. That's something, even if they do get a little overzealous.

I generally look back to what my own children and their children experiences and people we know. When I see what they are learning or not learning, what their attitudes and behaviors are it makes we ponder a lot on what the future holds for some of them.

 

[Unkotare]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

You think the Nazi concentration camps aren't taught in high school? Where did you get that idea? There are still some teachers who don't cover America's concentration camps under Wilson and FDR, but the Nazi concentration camps are covered in some detail.

 

[Unkotare]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

Actually the teaching of historic events that shape the world we now live in isn't being taught and a lot of these kids growing up have no clue as they play fantasy video games. Some older adults I know are no better than their prodigy in that area of having decency and respect or any humility when it comes to other human beings. On the other hand many in this society has gotten so wrapped up in being worried about feelings and forcing agendas they have no clue what real abuse is.

Yeah, I work with high school drop outs who don't know what the 4th of July is for and can't name the three branches of government, and don't have a clue what century Europe settled America. I like to think that's because they dropped out, but I don't know for sure.
Not so sure kids are as unfeeling and unaware as you think, though. They may need a little firmer hand in some colleges, but I think at least they have enough respect NOT to want to spread racist hate or bigotry against gays. That's something, even if they do get a little overzealous.

"A little overzealous"? If you are referring to the little nazi trash in training at Berkeley and NYU, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Unkotare]

What should be required in school is the reality of how this land mass was "settled".

This is already taught in school.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

Spielberg's Sissy Movie Munich Shows What Kind of Attitude Allowed the Holocaust

The moral of the Holocaust is that the Jews should have organized into fighting units and killed the Nazis from the very beginning. But the postwar ruling classes had a self-interest in not making cowardice a crime, so they made up the narrative of helpless victims.

 

[The Professor]

What should be required in school is the reality of how this land mass was "settled".

This is already taught in school.

I was taught this in public school a long time ago. I dropped out of school in the beginning of the tenth grade, so it was obviously taught even before high school. However, I left public school in 1955 so I have no idea what schools have been doing in more recent times. However, as I recall you spent a number of years as a teacher in the not-too-distant past (I am not sure if you still teach) and therefore you know what's happening. Thanks for the info.

 

[Unkotare]

What should be required in school is the reality of how this land mass was "settled".

This is already taught in school.

I was taught this in public school a long time ago. I dropped out of school in the beginning of the tenth grade, so it was obviously taught even before high school. However, I left public school in 1955 so I have no idea what schools have been doing in more recent times. However, as I recall you spent a number of years as a teacher in the not-too-distant past (I am not sure if you still teach) and therefore you know what's happening. Thanks for the info.

Still at it.

 

[RodISHI]

 

[OldLady]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

Actually the teaching of historic events that shape the world we now live in isn't being taught and a lot of these kids growing up have no clue as they play fantasy video games. Some older adults I know are no better than their prodigy in that area of having decency and respect or any humility when it comes to other human beings. On the other hand many in this society has gotten so wrapped up in being worried about feelings and forcing agendas they have no clue what real abuse is.

Yeah, I work with high school drop outs who don't know what the 4th of July is for and can't name the three branches of government, and don't have a clue what century Europe settled America. I like to think that's because they dropped out, but I don't know for sure.
Not so sure kids are as unfeeling and unaware as you think, though. They may need a little firmer hand in some colleges, but I think at least they have enough respect NOT to want to spread racist hate or bigotry against gays. That's something, even if they do get a little overzealous.

"A little overzealous"? If you are referring to the little nazi trash in training at Berkeley and NYU, you should be ashamed of yourself.

The little nazi trash of my generation became the baby boomers who are now comfortably retiring and keeping America afloat with their incomes. They're young, Unkotare. We went back to the land and put flowers in gun barrels, got stoned a lot and generally acted like idealistic idiots. Reality will hit them in the face and you know it. Life happens to all of us. Why is everyone so damned cranky about kids burning a few flags?

 

[Unkotare]

These documentaries of the atrocities of human's inhumanity should be required in school. These nasty little pansy that are so hip on fighting and going to war may think it over a little better if the portions of documented history is known to them.

Just under an hour of the actual footage taken upon liberation of the many concentration camps Germany was maintaining. People from nations all over were in these camps.
Nazi Concentration and Prison Camps (1945) Nuremberg Trials Documentary_WWII Footages_Full Length

The first time I saw one of these movies of actual footage I was in my 20's, taking a college night class. I literally couldn't eat the whole next day. I kept crying. I kept remembering the huge pile of human hair that had been shaved off people and was being kept for stuffing furniture. I wondered if I was as bad as a civilian German for ... something, I can't remember what, now, I thought I was accepting that was wrong. I was an absolute fucking mess. I don't know that I want high school students subjected to that. It was in a philosophy class that I had to watch it, though. The professor told us beliefs do indeed have consequences. Philosophy does matter.
Teaching the Holocaust is important, of course, and it IS taught. Diary of Anne Frank and all that.
Just not the documentaries, RodISHI.
I don't know who the nasty little pansies that are so hip on fighting and going to war are, either.

Actually the teaching of historic events that shape the world we now live in isn't being taught and a lot of these kids growing up have no clue as they play fantasy video games. Some older adults I know are no better than their prodigy in that area of having decency and respect or any humility when it comes to other human beings. On the other hand many in this society has gotten so wrapped up in being worried about feelings and forcing agendas they have no clue what real abuse is.

Yeah, I work with high school drop outs who don't know what the 4th of July is for and can't name the three branches of government, and don't have a clue what century Europe settled America. I like to think that's because they dropped out, but I don't know for sure.
Not so sure kids are as unfeeling and unaware as you think, though. They may need a little firmer hand in some colleges, but I think at least they have enough respect NOT to want to spread racist hate or bigotry against gays. That's something, even if they do get a little overzealous.

"A little overzealous"? If you are referring to the little nazi trash in training at Berkeley and NYU, you should be ashamed of yourself.

The little nazi trash of my generation became the baby boomers who are now comfortably retiring and keeping America afloat with their incomes. They're young, Unkotare. We went back to the land and put flowers in gun barrels, got stoned a lot and generally acted like idealistic idiots. Reality will hit them in the face and you know it. Life happens to all of us. Why is everyone so damned cranky about kids burning a few flags?

Turn on the news once in a while.