The trouble with UNRWA

[Disir]

Have you guys seen this op-ed piece?

What UNRWA did with the weaponry it found on its premises is far from the worst of Israel’s problems with the UN agency, however. The extent of the problem is rooted in the fact that UNRWA’s actual name is not, as widely believed, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency — a moniker that would imply an organization with worldwide responsibilities. UNRWA’s full name is the “United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.” It has existed since 1949, that is, to look after Palestinian refugees only, and the scale and scope of its mandate — uniquely for a UN refugee organization — has been expanding continuously day after day, thanks to its definition of what constitutes a Palestinian refugee.

Broadly speaking, everywhere but here, the UN defines a refugee as someone who, credibly fearing persecution for reasons of race, religion, nationality, and so on, is outside his country or former habitual residence. If the normal UN definition had been applied to the estimated 650,000 Palestinians who fled or were expelled from what became Israel in the late 1940s, the Palestinian refugee problem today would extend to the relatively few survivors among those 650,000 — a number estimated in the low tens of thousands. Were that the case, one of the key “final status” issues of profound dispute between Israel and the Palestinians would become instantly manageable, clearing a central obstacle to the two-state solution that some Palestinians, many in Israel, and the UN, ostensibly seek so urgently.

Thus, rather than a refugee problem in the low of tens of thousands, there are today five to six million Palestinian “refugees” — impossibly awaiting a “return” to Israel. And their healthcare, social services and, critically, education is funded via UNRWA.

As Israel sees it, an organization ostensibly designed to resolve a problem became the organization perpetuating the problem.

The trouble with UNRWA | The Times of Israel

 

[Indofred]

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.

Yes, very much needed since the mass Jewish illegal immigration, terrorist campaign and wars that displaced so many innocent Palestinians.

Thanks for reminding us Israel is a such a bastard of a country, the UN needed to set up a special group to look after Israel's victims.

 

[Daniyel]

UNRWA hide rockets in their place, gave them back to terrorists.
UNRWA CANNOT be blind to 25,000 rockets but for some reason they never spoke about it.
UNRWA aid on the Palestinians refugee is a blessing, but do they listen to the IDF evacuation warnings?-NO
So basically the UNRWA is taking part of Hamas campaign, or is it just me?

 

[Indofred]

UNRWA hide rockets in their place, gave them back to terrorists.
UNRWA CANNOT be blind to 25,000 rockets but for some reason they never spoke about it.
UNRWA aid on the Palestinians refugee is a blessing, but do they listen to the IDF evacuation warnings?-NO
So basically the UNRWA is taking part of Hamas campaign, or is it just me?

Please link to your accusations.
Thank you.

 

[Daniyel]

UNRWA hide rockets in their place, gave them back to terrorists.
UNRWA CANNOT be blind to 25,000 rockets but for some reason they never spoke about it.
UNRWA aid on the Palestinians refugee is a blessing, but do they listen to the IDF evacuation warnings?-NO
So basically the UNRWA is taking part of Hamas campaign, or is it just me?

Please link to your accusations.
Thank you.

Very well.
1.UNRWA Condemns Placement of Rockets, for a Second Time, in One of Its Schools | UNRWA
2.Tip of the iceberg - only during the operation 5,000 rockets? -
3. Based on my opinion - You can see also on the map above how deep the shelters inside the war zone, [MENTION=25033]RoccoR[/MENTION] provided a great explanation about shelters, I don't think the UN need explanation on International Law/Geneva Covenant however the shelters located inside the war zone.

[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

 

[Disir]

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.

Yes, very much needed since the mass Jewish illegal immigration, terrorist campaign and wars that displaced so many innocent Palestinians.

Thanks for reminding us Israel is a such a bastard of a country, the UN needed to set up a special group to look after Israel's victims.

Did you miss that whole little section there on perpetuating the victim mentality?


I thought you did.

 

[Indofred]

UNRWA hide rockets in their place, gave them back to terrorists.
UNRWA CANNOT be blind to 25,000 rockets but for some reason they never spoke about it.
UNRWA aid on the Palestinians refugee is a blessing, but do they listen to the IDF evacuation warnings?-NO
So basically the UNRWA is taking part of Hamas campaign, or is it just me?

Please link to your accusations.
Thank you.

Very well.
1.UNRWA Condemns Placement of Rockets, for a Second Time, in One of Its Schools | UNRWA
2.Tip of the iceberg - only during the operation 5,000 rockets? -
3. Based on my opinion - You can see also on the map above how deep the shelters inside the war zone, [MENTION=25033]RoccoR[/MENTION] provided a great explanation about shelters, I don't think the UN need explanation on International Law/Geneva Covenant however the shelters located inside the war zone.

[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

Your links.
UNRWA Condemns Placement of Rockets, for a Second Time, in One of Its Schools | UNRWA

Today, in the course of the regular inspection of its premises, UNRWA discovered rockets hidden in a vacant school in the Gaza Strip. As soon as the rockets were discovered, UNRWA staff were withdrawn from the premises, and so we are unable to confirm the precise number of rockets

We know they do regular inspections, and withdrew from the place where rockets were found. They deliberately staying neutral but made sure they were nothing to do with the rockets, not even counting them, just removing themselves from a potential target.

The map.

It's an encircled war zone in a tiny area. Of course they were close, they have no choice.
Israel claims to pinpoint rocket launchers, not just blast a whole area, including schools used as shelters. Shelters they know are free from weapons because the UN refuses to use a place where weapons are found; as we saw in your first link.
In other words, even though the Israelis knew the UN refuse to use a building where arms are stored, they bombed a shelter anyway.
The act of murderous bastards.

Your second map.

Such a tiny strip of land, but Israel says they can't use the best part of half of it.
They can't leave either; where the merry **** can they go?

 

[Daniyel]

Fred you mix some facts.
When Hamas attempt to kidnap or steal dead soldier's body - Israel land massive shelling to prevent that, that's what happened in Shajia for example, mistakes also happen, and yet 5,000 rockets result in 3,500 airstrikes..Israel does great efforts to prevent it you can't argue with that fact because if Israel is deliberately targeting civilians how the **** 2,000 airstrikes went for nothing?
However, instead of building tunnels to evacuate Gaza or seek asylum in Egypt, the Gazans chose to stay, Rafah is another option closer to the Kerem Shalom field hospital of IDF, same about Khan Yunis.
Sudanese made it to Israel, you seriously doubt Egypt is not interested to help the Palestinians in Gaza (Gaza originally is Egyptian territory-whether it is or not) Why the Egyptians doesn't open the Rafah?


[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

 

[Indofred]

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East.

Yes, very much needed since the mass Jewish illegal immigration, terrorist campaign and wars that displaced so many innocent Palestinians.

Thanks for reminding us Israel is a such a bastard of a country, the UN needed to set up a special group to look after Israel's victims.

Did you miss that whole little section there on perpetuating the victim mentality?


I thought you did.

Do you deny those events took place?

 

[Indofred]

Fred you mix some facts.
When Hamas attempt to kidnap or steal dead soldier's body - Israel land massive shelling to prevent that, that's what happened in Shajia for example, mistakes also happen, and yet 5,000 rockets result in 3,500 airstrikes..Israel does great efforts to prevent it you can't argue with that fact because if Israel is deliberately targeting civilians how the **** 2,000 airstrikes went for nothing?
However, instead of building tunnels to evacuate Gaza or seek asylum in Egypt, the Gazans chose to stay, Rafah is another option closer to the Kerem Shalom field hospital of IDF, same about Khan Yunis.
Sudanese made it to Israel, you seriously doubt Egypt is not interested to help the Palestinians in Gaza (Gaza originally is Egyptian territory-whether it is or not) Why the Egyptians doesn't open the Rafah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXrxLglOoRM
[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

So, have you managed to tell us exactly how many Israelis have been killed by rockets from Gaza?
If it's a very few, why do you need to kill 1,500 people to get to them?

Anyway, Hamas has its targets wrong.
Far better would be to attack, and hopefully destroy the likely two, maybe three seawater desalination plants within range of their missiles.
If the missiles aren't accurate enough, I'm sure a land or small boat assault would do the trick. It wouldn't take all that much to seriously damage such installations, putting them out of action for a long time.
These, along with a few others, have relieved Israel's serious water supply problem, thus would make great targets.
I dislike Hamas, partially because I see them as traitors to the people of Gaza, and partially because they are military epic fails.
All attacks on Israel and America have been a waste of time and effort, mostly because they, including 9/11, were ineffective in every goal they intended to achieve.

 

[Disir]

Fred you mix some facts.
When Hamas attempt to kidnap or steal dead soldier's body - Israel land massive shelling to prevent that, that's what happened in Shajia for example, mistakes also happen, and yet 5,000 rockets result in 3,500 airstrikes..Israel does great efforts to prevent it you can't argue with that fact because if Israel is deliberately targeting civilians how the **** 2,000 airstrikes went for nothing?
However, instead of building tunnels to evacuate Gaza or seek asylum in Egypt, the Gazans chose to stay, Rafah is another option closer to the Kerem Shalom field hospital of IDF, same about Khan Yunis.
Sudanese made it to Israel, you seriously doubt Egypt is not interested to help the Palestinians in Gaza (Gaza originally is Egyptian territory-whether it is or not) Why the Egyptians doesn't open the Rafah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXrxLglOoRM
[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

So, have you managed to tell us exactly how many Israelis have been killed by rockets from Gaza?
If it's a very few, why do you need to kill 1,500 people to get to them?

Anyway, Hamas has its targets wrong.
Far better would be to attack, and hopefully destroy the likely two, maybe three seawater desalination plants within range of their missiles.
If the missiles aren't accurate enough, I'm sure a land or small boat assault would do the trick. It wouldn't take all that much to seriously damage such installations, putting them out of action for a long time.
These, along with a few others, have relieved Israel's serious water supply problem, thus would make great targets.
I dislike Hamas, partially because I see them as traitors to the people of Gaza, and partially because they are military epic fails.
All attacks on Israel and America have been a waste of time and effort, mostly because they, including 9/11, were ineffective in every goal they intended to achieve.

If you dislike Hamas then what are you doing? Really?

You know that the UNRWA is a problem but you don't want to step up to solve it. You know that there are few actual refugees but you ignore it. You know that Israel has a right to defend itself and you ignore that too.

You ***** simply to *****.

 

[Disir]

Yes, very much needed since the mass Jewish illegal immigration, terrorist campaign and wars that displaced so many innocent Palestinians.

Thanks for reminding us Israel is a such a bastard of a country, the UN needed to set up a special group to look after Israel's victims.

Did you miss that whole little section there on perpetuating the victim mentality?


I thought you did.

Do you deny those events took place?

There was no terrorist campaign instigated by Israel. There was no mass Jewish Illegal immigration. Again. Did you miss that whole little section there on perpetuating the victim mentality?

 

[docmauser1]

If it's a very few, why do you need to kill 1,500 people to get to them?

Only as many as hamass would like it, remember - a good palistanian is a dead palistanian on TV!

 

[docmauser1]

So, have you managed to tell us exactly how many Israelis have been killed by rockets from Gaza?

Wanna dead jews?

 

[Indofred]

Fred you mix some facts.
When Hamas attempt to kidnap or steal dead soldier's body - Israel land massive shelling to prevent that, that's what happened in Shajia for example, mistakes also happen, and yet 5,000 rockets result in 3,500 airstrikes..Israel does great efforts to prevent it you can't argue with that fact because if Israel is deliberately targeting civilians how the **** 2,000 airstrikes went for nothing?
However, instead of building tunnels to evacuate Gaza or seek asylum in Egypt, the Gazans chose to stay, Rafah is another option closer to the Kerem Shalom field hospital of IDF, same about Khan Yunis.
Sudanese made it to Israel, you seriously doubt Egypt is not interested to help the Palestinians in Gaza (Gaza originally is Egyptian territory-whether it is or not) Why the Egyptians doesn't open the Rafah?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXrxLglOoRM
[MENTION=38033]Indofred[/MENTION]

So, have you managed to tell us exactly how many Israelis have been killed by rockets from Gaza?
If it's a very few, why do you need to kill 1,500 people to get to them?

Anyway, Hamas has its targets wrong.
Far better would be to attack, and hopefully destroy the likely two, maybe three seawater desalination plants within range of their missiles.
If the missiles aren't accurate enough, I'm sure a land or small boat assault would do the trick. It wouldn't take all that much to seriously damage such installations, putting them out of action for a long time.
These, along with a few others, have relieved Israel's serious water supply problem, thus would make great targets.
I dislike Hamas, partially because I see them as traitors to the people of Gaza, and partially because they are military epic fails.
All attacks on Israel and America have been a waste of time and effort, mostly because they, including 9/11, were ineffective in every goal they intended to achieve.

If you dislike Hamas then what are you doing? Really?

You know that the UNRWA is a problem but you don't want to step up to solve it. You know that there are few actual refugees but you ignore it. You know that Israel has a right to defend itself and you ignore that too.

You ***** simply to *****.

Israel is an invading force, using collective punishment in an attempt to stop a small number of freedom fighters.
Palestinians have the greater right.

 

[Indofred]

Did you miss that whole little section there on perpetuating the victim mentality?


I thought you did.

Do you deny those events took place?

There was no terrorist campaign instigated by Israel. There was no mass Jewish Illegal immigration. Again. Did you miss that whole little section there on perpetuating the victim mentality?

Are you mad, or just treating everyone as fools.
Mass Jewish illegal immigration is well documented.
Jewish terror attacks are well documented.
you lot are still starting wars, claiming to be the victim, but really being the oppressor.