Zone1 The physical world is made manifest by mind

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Apart from its linkage to consciousness, the physical world is entirely abstract and without ‘actuality.' Therefore, the physical world is made manifest by mind. So why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

George Wald: Life and Mind in the Universe

 

[Crepitus]

Apart from its linkage to consciousness, the physical world is entirely abstract and without ‘actuality.' Therefore, the physical world is made manifest by mind. So why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

George Wald: Life and Mind in the Universe

Go get a brick.

Strike yourself repeatedly until unconscious.

Does that headache feel "abstract"?

 

[toobfreak]

The physical world is made manifest by mind​

There is a very old eastern saying exemplified in Dr. Richard Albert's book 'Be Here Now.' It went:

NO MIND
NEVER MATTER
NO MATTER
NEVER MIND.

The fact of the matter is that our only connection to the physical universe is our minds. Take away the mind (unconsciousness, etc.) and there is no physical universe.
Further, consciousness creates the physical universe. The universe is different for each of us. To every living thing on the planet, the world is a different place with each of us at its center.

 

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Go get a brick.

Strike yourself repeatedly until unconscious.

Does that headache feel "abstract"?

In 1928 Arthur Eddington wrote, “the stuff of the world is mind‑stuff ... The mind‑stuff is not spread in space and time..... Recognizing that the physical world is entirely abstract and without ‘actuality’ apart from its linkage to consciousness, we restore consciousness to the fundamental position . . .”

 

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Go get a brick.

Strike yourself repeatedly until unconscious.

Does that headache feel "abstract"?

Why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

 

[BreezeWood]

So why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

- why think the spirit is a ghost ... materializing after being set free as what might be the more pertinent question.

people from texas usually turn into boulders.

 

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- why think the spirit is a ghost ... materializing after being set free as what might be the more pertinent question.

people from texas usually turn into boulders.

Why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

 

[skye]

Mind is all

but then

what does one know

 

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Von Weizsacker in 1971 states as “a new interpretation of quantum theory” what he calls his “Identity Hypothesis: Consciousness and matter are different aspects of the same reality.”

 

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Information is different from matter and consciousness.

 

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Information objectifies objects. Information "represents" a physical/material object in the most minimal and least ambiguous way.

 

[BreezeWood]

Why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

you are in the wrong forum - mind is physiological to cns, brain - the spiritual content of physiology, spirit from the heavens is the viability capable of physical content not yet evolved on planet earth.

 

[alang1216]

Apart from its linkage to consciousness, the physical world is entirely abstract and without ‘actuality.' Therefore, the physical world is made manifest by mind. So why can't mind be the source or matrix of the physical world?

This only applies to each individual, we make our physical world 'actual' but only for ourselves. The physical world doesn't depend on who is perceiving it. It was here before I was born and it will be here after I'm gone.

 

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This only applies to each individual, we make our physical world 'actual' but only for ourselves. The physical world doesn't depend on who is perceiving it. It was here before I was born and it will be here after I'm gone.

The physical world is made manifest through consciousness. "...The physicist, setting up an experiment on radiation, decides beforehand which of those sets of properties he will encounter. If he does a wave experiment, he gets a wave answer; from a particle experiment he gets a particle answer. To this degree, all physical observation is subjective..." George Wald

 

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This only applies to each individual, we make our physical world 'actual' but only for ourselves. The physical world doesn't depend on who is perceiving it. It was here before I was born and it will be here after I'm gone.

“The world is a construct of our sensations, perceptions, memories. It is convenient to regard it as existing objectively on its own. But it certainly does not become manifest by its mere existence.” Erwin Schrödinger

 

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Information is mind stuff.

 

[toobfreak]

Information is different from matter and consciousness.

Wouldn't information be a subset of consciousness? I mean, information does not really exist but in the mind--- information is merely perceptual input into the mind which the mind interprets as non-random having a particular meaning which we assign and interpret as "information" because it fits into a locus of other perceptual inputs.

 

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Wouldn't information be a subset of consciousness? I mean, information does not really exist but in the mind--- information is merely perceptual input into the mind which the mind interprets as non-random having a particular meaning which we assign and interpret as "information" because it fits into a locus of other perceptual inputs.

In 1969, von Weizsäcker wrote an important essay called "Matter, Energy, and Information."

In it he says that "information is neither matter nor energy," Information philosophy agrees with this fundamental insight, but we emphasize that information needs matter to be embodied and energy to be communicated. Information is abstract and immaterial, like gravitational field theory that describes how matter moves, or the quantum wave function that controls (statistically) the positions of particles.

dedicated to the new information philosophy

Problems in Philosophy and Physics Solved?

www.informationphilosopher.com

 

[toobfreak]

In 1969, von Weizsäcker wrote an important essay called "Matter, Energy, and Information."
In it he says that "information is neither matter nor energy," Information philosophy agrees with this fundamental insight, but we emphasize that information needs matter to be embodied and energy to be communicated. Information is abstract and immaterial, like gravitational field theory that describes how matter moves, or the quantum wave function that controls (statistically) the positions of particles.

Pretty obvious stuff.

• Information lies in the domain of consciousness since information is merely a form of perception and /interpretation/.
• And while matter and energy are parcel to the same thing, one simply being formed while the other being a formless state of bosonic quanta, both are still ethereal. And while consciousness and mind involve both matter and energy (chemical/biological energy and the biological matter to contain it), in absolute terms, mind is spiritual--- it exists in no particular spot and cannot be surgically removed from the body and transplanted.