Talking of China, what do you think of?

Mao described himself as 70% good, 30% bad. I'd flip that around. And I think I'm being generous.

My wife is a 1st generation Chinese immigrant, now a naturalized US citizen. Her grandfather was a highly educated and traveled man who studied in France in the early part of the last century and returned to China to open a school. Mao's goons called him a capitalist and imprisoned him where he fell sick and died of pneumonia. Her grandmother was "struggled" against and forced to wear a heavy stone around her neck because I don't know - there's this weird sadistic streak in Chinese culture. Of course the family lost everything and was sent down to the country to be poor rice farmers. It took about 80 years for the family to regain its lost status, but they are all prosperous and living here in the US now.
 
Mao described himself as 70% good, 30% bad. I'd flip that around. And I think I'm being generous.

My wife is a 1st generation Chinese immigrant, now a naturalized US citizen. Her grandfather was a highly educated and traveled man who studied in France in the early part of the last century and returned to China to open a school. Mao's goons called him a capitalist and imprisoned him where he fell sick and died of pneumonia. Her grandmother was "struggled" against and forced to wear a heavy stone around her neck because I don't know - there's this weird sadistic streak in Chinese culture. Of course the family lost everything and was sent down to the country to be poor rice farmers. It took about 80 years for the family to regain its lost status, but they are all prosperous and living here in the US now.
sad stories about your wive.s family 😳😒
 
Eman623

and what other details do you think of, besides Mao?
Let's see...

1. My wife (obviously!) and extended family.
2. The food (whenever I go back there, I stayed with my wife's family and ate the same food as normal Chinese eat. It ranges from the exquisite to the inedible - at least to me)
3. The repression and ever-present threat of state violence (I once saw the police beating a guy on the street, and a cop once tried to smash the driver-side window of a car I was riding in, because the driver had driven on the sidewalk to get around a traffic jam)
4. The way people drive (see #3)
5. The fact that I can't really go back there anymore. I mean I could, but Americans are not nearly as welcome in China as they were 25 years ago when I first traveled there. My wife says she wouldn't go back there now either.
 
Bridge-building! :laughing0301:

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i never sad so

i just want to collect ideas
RichKid Reich: "We Got Ours; We're Not Going to Let You Get Yours"

1.4 billion customers hungry for traditionally American-made products. Our sitting-pretty ruling class block our economic growth as badly as the old-style Communists who once ruled China did.
 

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