Take Away The Moderator's Ability To Be A Secondary Debater Going Forward

[TheGreatGatsby]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simply said "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

 

[debbiedowner]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simplysaid "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

There probably won't be any other debates. Haven't you read the news today?

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simplysaid "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

There probably won't be any other debates. Haven't you read the news today?

With whatever due respect, that's a discussion for another thread.

 

[debbiedowner]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simplysaid "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

There probably won't be any other debates. Haven't you read the news today?

With whatever due respect, that's a discussion for another thread.

What the debates that you started OP?

 

[Taz]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simply said "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

Wasn't he a guy from FOX, who love Trump more than ratings themselves?

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

Oh Bullshit. Before 2016, you didn't see anything of the sort in debates. The debates in 2016 with Don and Hillary were a shit show. Just not on the level of Tuesday night. Donny talking over her constantly and hovering around behind her all night like some f'ing bat. Chris Wallace did the best he could with what he was dealt. His only other option would have been to get outright hostile (which is exactly what I would have done the second time Trump pulled that shit). I'd have stopped the debate, gone to an extended commercial break, and forcefully re-iterated the rules to both candidates. Trump was the one who decided to come in and burn the house down. That's because he knows he would have lost in a real debate. What is needed is a mic cut off. You go over your time allotted and you get chopped.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simply said "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

Wasn't he a guy from FOX, who love Trump more than ratings themselves?

Every time I come back to politics on USMB, I'm reminded why I got away.
I don't care about your hack talking points. Debate what I said or otherwise second it.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

Oh Bullshit. Before 2016, you didn't see anything of the sort in debates. The debates in 2016 with Don and Hillary were a shit show. Just not on the level of Tuesday night. Donny talking over her constantly and hovering around behind her all night like some f'ing bat. Chris Wallace did the best he could with what he was dealt. His only other option would have been to get outright hostile (which is exactly what I would have done the second time Trump pulled that shit). I'd have stopped the debate, gone to an extended commercial break, and forcefully re-iterated the rules to both candidates. Trump was the one who decided to come in and burn the house down. That's because he knows he would have lost in a real debate. What is needed is a mic cut off. You go over your time allotted and you get chopped.

Same for you. Don't care about the partisan points.
If you can't name what's wrong with my proposal, then don't bother.

 

[Taz]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simply said "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

Wasn't he a guy from FOX, who love Trump more than ratings themselves?

Every time I come back to politics on USMB, I'm reminded why I got away.
I don't care about your hack talking points. Debate what I said or otherwise second it.

Need another tissue?

 

[Maxdeath]

Wallace spent at least half his time trying to make Trump look bad.
But you have people that will defend his actions because of what he did and then pretend that he must be conservative because he works for fox.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

Oh Bullshit. Before 2016, you didn't see anything of the sort in debates. The debates in 2016 with Don and Hillary were a shit show. Just not on the level of Tuesday night. Donny talking over her constantly and hovering around behind her all night like some f'ing bat. Chris Wallace did the best he could with what he was dealt. His only other option would have been to get outright hostile (which is exactly what I would have done the second time Trump pulled that shit). I'd have stopped the debate, gone to an extended commercial break, and forcefully re-iterated the rules to both candidates. Trump was the one who decided to come in and burn the house down. That's because he knows he would have lost in a real debate. What is needed is a mic cut off. You go over your time allotted and you get chopped.

Same for you. Don't care about the partisan points.
If you can't name what's wrong with my proposal, then don't bother.

You didn't make any proposals outside of a reference to gotcha pledges. You complained about Chris Wallace and how Republicans have been getting this treatment for many cycles..which isn't true. Wallace was just the poor guy trying to tamp down the madness in front of him. That behavior did not happen before Tuesday night. The Republican candidate came in determined to burn the house down and the Democrat candidate lost his temper. The result was a shit show.

1) A mic cut off for the moderator.
2) Strict adherence to the debate rules.
3) No interrupting.
4) Timed responses allowing for follow up questions.

Those are my concrete suggestions.

 

[beautress]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simply said "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

It was a foreseeable disgrace to the leftist lockstep media, but if you muzzle lies, all that's left is the truth.

And who came out as telling the truth while the the Pelosi leftists lied their sorry asses off? Why, it was Donald Trump, of course. through a series of inquiries who agreed on one ultimate conclusion: there was no conclusion of collusion with Russia on the part of anyone in Trump's Executive Branch.
That's because the false witnesses against our elected President turned out to be the poorest loser of all presidential candidates, Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Lady MacBeth of America and a big fat liar who destroyed the peaceful transition of power, wisdom of the ages in American History.

 

[Likkmee]

Ann Coulter and Bill Maher need to moderate the next one....lOL. Mr T as referee !

 

[rightwinger]

There will be no more debates, Trump will be isolated

Maybe they can debate on USMB?
We can let them use the Bull Ring

 

[beautress]

Wallace spent at least half his time trying to make Trump look bad.
But you have people that will defend his actions because of what he did and then pretend that he must be conservative because he works for fox.

Yep. He earned whatever the Billionaire Boys'Club likely handed out in offshore assets from their offshore asset sources and/or Swiss silent sources. I'm getting a little sick of the acerbic doings of deep staters who "do not exist."

There will be no more debates, Trump will be isolated

Maybe they can debate on USMB?
We can let them use the Bull Ring

No, debates can be conducted with debaters speaking from their own *ahem* basements. It would solve several issues.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Wallace spent at least half his time trying to make Trump look bad.
But you have people that will defend his actions because of what he did and then pretend that he must be conservative because he works for fox.

Yep. He earned whatever the Billionaire Boys'Club likely handed out in offshore assets from their offshore asset sources and/or Swiss silent sources. I'm getting a little sick of the acerbic doings of deep staters who "do not exist."

There will be no more debates, Trump will be isolated

Maybe they can debate on USMB?
We can let them use the Bull Ring

No, debates can be conducted with debaters speaking from their own *ahem* basements. It would solve several issues.

There is no Deep State. Just in the imaginations of the true believers and the weak minded. You don't like the way things break for your side, so you make up stories.
Wallace did the best he could do with what Trump (then Biden) threw at him. His only other recourse was to get mean with both of them. 76 times for Trump, around 25-30 for Biden...interruptions that is.
You have one candidate who is intent on goading the other one and raising hell (because he knows he'll lose a straight up debate).

You need strict adherence to the rules and a mic cut off button. Just the second would have solved a lot of problems on Tuesday night.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

Oh Bullshit. Before 2016, you didn't see anything of the sort in debates. The debates in 2016 with Don and Hillary were a shit show. Just not on the level of Tuesday night. Donny talking over her constantly and hovering around behind her all night like some f'ing bat. Chris Wallace did the best he could with what he was dealt. His only other option would have been to get outright hostile (which is exactly what I would have done the second time Trump pulled that shit). I'd have stopped the debate, gone to an extended commercial break, and forcefully re-iterated the rules to both candidates. Trump was the one who decided to come in and burn the house down. That's because he knows he would have lost in a real debate. What is needed is a mic cut off. You go over your time allotted and you get chopped.

Same for you. Don't care about the partisan points.
If you can't name what's wrong with my proposal, then don't bother.

You didn't make any proposals outside of a reference to gotcha pledges. You complained about Chris Wallace and how Republicans have been getting this treatment for many cycles..which isn't true. Wallace was just the poor guy trying to tamp down the madness in front of him. That behavior did not happen before Tuesday night. The Republican candidate came in determined to burn the house down and the Democrat candidate lost his temper. The result was a shit show.

1) A mic cut off for the moderator.
2) Strict adherence to the debate rules.
3) No interrupting.
4) Timed responses allowing for follow up questions.

Those are my concrete suggestions.

1. I think the moderator needs to hold himself to partiality. He can't insert himself. This has become common place starting with Candy Crowley in Romney/Obama. It needs to stop.
2. No litmus tests / gotcha questions. Ask open ended questions. It's the opponent's job to put someone in the hot seat, not the moderator's job.
3. For the most part, candidates abide no interrupting in the two-minute opening statements. There has to be leeway for quick responses. Chris Wallace getting his dander up twice for Trump merely saying wrong is not helpful. (BTW, it was Biden who started the interruptions).
4. No mic cut off. That's ridiculous. That sends a direct message that the powers that be can silence us. If they can silence a president, they can silence anyone. And in any event, I don't think this is even a serious suggestion. It's only aimed at Trump. It's not a standard either side advocates for in the long term.
5. You tell the people the debate rules and let the American people judge for themselves how the candidates abode them / conducted themselves.
6. There is interrupting in the format though. This seems to be a misnomer being perpetuated by the crybabies out there. The format is "conversational" after the opening remarks on the subject. And btw, it was Wallace constantly interrupting in these portions of the debate to come to Biden's rescue.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Chris Wallace: Accusation. Accusation. Question.
What kind of horse sh** moderating is that?
Just ask an open-ended question like a real moderator.
From here on out, moderators should have to agree
to standards whereby they cannot play the role of
a secondary debater (or even primary debater).

Furthermore, no more f'ing gotcha pledges!
That's more horse sh** for Wallace to be putting
Trump on the spot with condemning whomever
or whatever. If the opponent (Biden) wants to do
that, then that's fair game. But for Wallace to sit
there and raise his Irish with a candidate. That's
totally unprofessional.

Republican candidates have been getting
'the treatment' like this for many cycles now.
It's time to level the playing field and put an
end to this sh**. These moderators cannot
keep acting like their sh** don't stink.

One more thing. 78-15 was the interruptions for
Trump/Biden by Wallace. WTF. At least twice,
Trump simply said "Wrong!" and Wallace cried out,
"Sir! Sir! Quiet down!" (to paraphrase).

Wasn't he a guy from FOX, who love Trump more than ratings themselves?

Every time I come back to politics on USMB, I'm reminded why I got away.
I don't care about your hack talking points. Debate what I said or otherwise second it.

Need another tissue?

Nope. Only need to block you. Goodbye.