Supreme Court birthright citizenship decision coming Friday

[TroglocratsRdumb]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-cases-birthright-citizenship/

Supreme Court birthright citizenship decision coming Friday​

(NewsNation) — The Supreme Court on Friday will issue its decision in a high-stakes case tied to one of President Donald Trump’s controversial policies: ending birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to undocumented immigrants.

At the center of the case is the 14th Amendment and the question of whether birthright citizenship is enshrined in the Constitution.

Judges from across the political spectrum largely agree that the Constitution protects this right. However, Trump’s executive order, currently blocked by lower courts, seeks to deny that protection, and the White House wants the Supreme Court to reverse those rulings.

White House officials want to revise U.S. citizenship rules that have been in place for more than 125 years, arguing the change would help address illegal immigration.

“It is this administration’s policy to deport illegal alien families together, ensuring family unity,” senior White House adviser Stephen Miller wrote on social media. “Ending birthright citizenship will contribute greatly to that goal.”

The 14th Amendment reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

Michael Wildes, an immigration lawyer, told NewsNation the case is not only about legal interpretation, but also about process and precedent.

“This whole notion of anchor babies and the negative impression that the president is giving birthright citizenship is going to be met by the courts, and I believe he’s not going to succeed,” he said. “The Supreme Court of the United States and all the courts in the federal, state and even local systems interpret laws the president enforces and Congress makes. If you want to change the law, if you want to make a law, you’ve got to go to Congress.”

Comment:
The original intent of the 14th Amendment birthright citizenship clause was to protect the citizenship of the children of the emancipated Slaves.
It also guarantees the citizenship of the children of all American citizens.
It was never intended for the children of foreign citizens.
At least one parent must be an American citizen.
Foreign citizens are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof".
However I have little hope that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the original intent of the birthright citizenship clause because it would cause immense social turmoil.

 

[toobfreak]

Supreme Court birthright citizenship decision coming Friday

 

[HikerGuy83]

It showed up as you said.

What a steamroller.

 

[Kilroy2]

Both Trump Parents were not US citizens

So he is a citizen because of birth right citizenship

Now if they deport Trump on the same argument then I would be torn between the ridiculousness of it all or if they deport Trump as a birth right citizen

 

[AZrailwhale]

Both Trump Parents were not US citizens

So he is a citizen because of birth right citizenship

Now if they deport Trump on the same argument then I would be torn between the ridiculousness of it all or if they deport Trump as a birth right citizen

You only need ONE parent to be a citizen for derived citizenship.

 

[Kilroy2]

You only need ONE parent to be a citizen for derived citizenship.

Well if Trump has his way , then he will abolish that

At the center of the case is the 14th Amendment and the question of whether birthright citizenship is enshrined in the Constitution.

Judges from across the political spectrum largely agree that the Constitution protects this right. However, Trump’s executive order, currently blocked by lower courts, seeks to deny that protection, and the White House wants the Supreme Court to reverse those rulings.

MSN

 

[Seymour Flops]

This is going to be a tough decision for the Supremes, and a tough one for Trump to put in the victory column.

Mainly because of U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, a 1898 case that seems to have addressed exactly this question and was decided in favor of the child of immigrants.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wong's parents were living in the U.S., had their son Wong, and moved back to China. Wong went to China to visit his parents and was denied entry on return due to not being an American citizen. His case made it to the USSC and a precedent was set.

But . . . his parents do not seem to have been in the country illegally. That will have to be the hook that Trump hangs his hat on for this case.

Personally, I think taking away birthright citizenship solves the wrong problem. The problem is the flood of illegals entering our country. I get that making their kids citizens contributes to the incentives that Team Autopen provided for that flood.

Trump has temporarily stemmed that flow very severely and without agreeing to allow more than five thousand "assylum seekers" per day as every single Democrat and "not Democrat" on this board thought was a good idea. The "not Democrats" especially liked that five thousand per day idea, "bi-partisan" as it supposedly was.

We should focus on making sure that no Democrat has the motivation to start that invasion again.

The gang members and human smugglers that TA let in tend to kill kids more than have them. Still, there will be millions of new citizens born to border jumpers, who will make money from having those new citizens. These little "breadwinners" for illegal families will be a drain on the social safety net for at well over a decade.

But, they are not like the multi-generational American welfare families who tend to be black or white. Many Americans, if not most, believe these children will grow up to be productive Americans. That is a common belief about children of immigrants and it will be difficult for the USSC to rule Trump's way due to that also.

 

[Kilroy2]

Well the birthright issues certain help the Drumpf family come to America. Daddy found gold in those darn hills. Came back to NYC and made a fortune in real estate. Changed their name to Trump. Son became US president.

Now he and the supreme court are against it

Closing the door on what was once acceptable.

Opening the flood gate and then closing it

No occupancy

except if your rich enought to buy an opening in the gate.

 

[Kilroy2]

You only need ONE parent to be a citizen for derived citizenship.

And still both of Trump parents were immigrants.

 

[Kilroy2]

Break it down further it become more hilarious

Barron was born at Manhattan's Presbyterian Hospital in the year 2006. According to the norms, he is a US citizen by birth under the country's citizenship rules. Melania was a lawful US resident in 2006 when Barron was born, and she also possessed a green card since 2001. This means that the new executive order will not have any sort of impact on Barron Trump's citizenship.

Donald Trump announced that one parent of a newborn has to be an American citizen or a green card holder for their child to be declared an American citizen.​

How convient a proclamation that will not hurt the Trump family

Donald Trump's birthright citizenship case hurting his family? Melania, Barron doubts answered

Donald Trump announced that one parent of a newborn has to be an American citizen or a green card holder for their child to be declared an American citizen.

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Seymour Flops]

Break it down further it become more hilarious

Barron was born at Manhattan's Presbyterian Hospital in the year 2006. According to the norms, he is a US citizen by birth under the country's citizenship rules. Melania was a lawful US resident in 2006 when Barron was born, and she also possessed a green card since 2001. This means that the new executive order will not have any sort of impact on Barron Trump's citizenship.

Donald Trump announced that one parent of a newborn has to be an American citizen or a green card holder for their child to be declared an American citizen.

How convient a proclamation that will not hurt the Trump family

How sensible a proclaimataion that allows people who intend to be hard-working, law-abiding Americans and have been throught the legal immigration process to give birth to American citizens. At the same time, it does not allow illegal aliens to slip over the border 8 months, three weeks and six days pregnant, give birth for free in an emergency room, jumping in front of Americans and lawful immigrants with job-related injuries, and begin collecting a laundry list of freebies set aside for "American children in poverty.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Both Trump Parents were not US citizens

So he is a citizen because of birth right citizenship

Now if they deport Trump on the same argument then I would be torn between the ridiculousness of it all or if they deport Trump as a birth right citizen

That's not true though, is it?

His father was born in NY

Trump's GRANDFATHER was not born in the US, he was a naturalized citizen in 1892, Trump's father was born in 1905 in New York (though conceived in Germany)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Fred_Trump_Passport_Application.jpg

His mother was born in Scotland and naturalized in 1942, before Trump was born.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And still both of Trump parents were immigrants.

Nope. Father was born in the US.

 

[Doc7505]

Supreme Court to hear case on Trump ​

birthright citizenship order​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/05/trump-birthright-citizenship-supreme-court.html

5 Dec 2025 ~~ By Dan Mangan

Key Points

• The Supreme Court agreed to hear arguments on whether President Donald Trump can undo automatic citizenship for people born in the United States.
• Trump, on his first day back in the White House on Jan. 20, issued an executive order that said babies born in the U.S. more than 30 days after that order were not entitled to be issued citizenship documents if their parents were temporary visitors or illegal immigrants.
• The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution says, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.”

The Supreme Court on Friday said it will hear arguments in a case that will determine if President Donald Trump can undo automatic citizenship for people born in the United States.
Trump, on his first day back in the White House on Jan. 20, issued an executive order that said babies born in the U.S. more than 30 days after that order were not entitled to be issued citizenship documents if their parents were temporary visitors or illegal immigrants.
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The Supreme Court, which is expected to rule next year, will determine if Trump’s executive order complies with that amendment.
The order told federal agencies to refuse to recognize the citizenship of children born in the U.S. if their mother “was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth,” or when the baby’s “mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time.”
Several federal district court judges have found that Trump’s order violated the Constitution, and two federal circuit courts of appeals upheld injunctions blocking the order from taking effect.

Commentary:
Anyone reading the original record and discussions in congress about this will IMMEDIATELY understand its original purpose was to give slaves full citizenship. It was NEVER intended to grant birthright citizenship and virtually no other western country allows for this. Oh, they all have borders too.
This reinterpretation needs to be corrected.
That’s the key. And, if you read the documents from the time period in which the 14th Amendment was passed, you can clearly see that the Amendment was not intended to give citizenship to everyone whose mother made it across our borders before dropping a baby.
Given the laws of other countries around the world regarding this issue, it would make logical sense for the Court to rule in Trump’s favor.