Russia Urges More Arms to Ukraine as a Kyiv surrender will delay the Russian Mobilisation Timetable and Training Programmes.

[luiza]

RUSSIA NEEDS ALL OUR HELP. The legs of the Kyiv Nazi third army are wobbling badly . As Sergei Shoigu, the Minister of Defence said today in Moscow --- - the Ukrainian ability to fight much more and its resources have been totally exhausted .Of course , all sane pundits and commentators have known this for several months and it all became blindingly obvious during the Bakhmut Meat Grinder operation when Kyiv needlessly sent up to 50 000 fighters to their death . Well done the Pentagon for that , working through the Nazi Midget in Kyiv ! Of couse , this earlier than anticipated collapse of the PPA (Poxy Proxy Army ) means that Moscow will have to revise its Mobilisation plans and Training schedules to accommodate this major inconvenience . Unless NATO , and its big bad Boss, the US , can do something helpful and get some decent boots on the ground to face the Red Army . But with guns and ammunition --- though they need to find something much better than those collapsible Leopard tanks and US Bradley shite heaps . I wonder if Winkle Titty and Toomuchbooze have gone to sign-up at long last as women and 15 year old lads are being shoved out to the front line now as fast as they can kidnap them off the streets .They only live for 2-3 days on average but they can die happy and glorious protecting the Nazi Midget for a little bit longer .

 

[Donald H]

RUSSIA NEEDS ALL OUR HELP. The legs of the Kyiv Nazi third army are wobbling badly . As Sergei Shoigu, the Minister of Defence said today in Moscow --- - the Ukrainian ability to fight much more and its resources have been totally exhausted .Of course , all sane pundits and commentators have known this for several months and it all became blindingly obvious during the Bakhmut Meat Grinder operation when Kyiv needlessly sent up to 50 000 fighters to their death . Well done the Pentagon for that , working through the Nazi Midget in Kyiv ! Of couse , this earlier than anticipated collapse of the PPA (Poxy Proxy Army ) means that Moscow will have to revise its Mobilisation plans and Training schedules to accommodate this major inconvenience . Unless NATO , and its big bad Boss, the US , can do something helpful and get some decent boots on the ground to face the Red Army . But with guns and ammunition --- though they need to find something much better than those collapsible Leopard tanks and US Bradley shite heaps . I wonder if Winkle Titty and Toomuchbooze have gone to sign-up at long last as women and 15 year old lads are being shoved out to the front line now as fast as they can kidnap them off the streets .They only live for 2-3 days on average but they can die happy and glorious protecting the Nazi Midget for a little bit longer .

American boots on the ground, officially under their flag, is not an option. I think you understand that by now.

It could be interesting to hear if you have any other options? Fwiw, I seriously doubt that America is going to accept not being able to destroy Russia after investing so much.

It's seriously coming to the point at which it could be the last Ukrainian standing, in a rhetorical sense at least.

Can America continue to pursue the war without Ukrainian hands on?

Russia doesn't want nuclear. Nobody does! But Russia has been very clear and upfront on what it will take to go there!

 

[jwoodie]

Is there a conclusion to be drawn from these yammerings?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Is there a conclusion to be drawn from these yammerings?

Yes, the Putinheads are panicking as the AFU pushes ahead in the sourth, slaughtering retreating Russian troops and getting closer to Mariupol and splitting the Russian forces in Ukraine in two, cutting off the land bridge Russia needs to supply its forces in Crimea. they understand now that Putin's only hope is that Trump is elected and saves the Russian empire.

 

[luiza]

American boots on the ground, officially under their flag, is not an option. I think you understand that by now.

Never even suggested American boots on the ground -- that would definitely guarantee a Kyiv loss given the US glorious losing record . I implied that the US might get someone else to do their dirty work and the only likely prospect are the Pollocks . But , in general terms, nobody will be keen to make that sort of committment and particularly if more banks go under , perhaps very soon .It might get interesting if it is decided to send in a few F16s . Then there will be carnage because they will be obliterated in minutes and they have one guarantee of total failure which I will disclose at the right moment . BTW , my OP was written with heavy sarcasm and also was a bit of a wind-up for the Trolls who come out of their caves when Khazaria is mentioned or the subject of backing losing horses appears .

 

[luiza]

Is there a conclusion to be drawn from these yammerings?

Why? Should there be ? Can you read the future ? Does God channel through you ? Tell us more .

 

[luiza]

Yes, the Putinheads are panicking as the AFU pushes ahead in the sourth, slaughtering retreating Russian troops and getting closer to Mariupol and splitting the Russian forces in Ukraine in two, cutting off the land bridge Russia needs to supply its forces in Crimea. they understand now that Putin's only hope is that Trump is elected and saves the Russian empire.

You idiot . The AFU youngster and OAPs have yet to breach the security zone ,let alone reach the first of three defence lines .You literally have no idea what you are talking about. Try comics .Have you the remotest idea how far it is to Mariupol from the present front line -- for a raggle taggle group that once managed to advance three inches in a day ?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yes, the Putinheads are panicking as the AFU pushes ahead in the sourth, slaughtering retreating Russian troops and getting closer to Mariupol and splitting the Russian forces in Ukraine in two, cutting off the land bridge Russia needs to supply its forces in Crimea. they understand now that Putin's only hope is that Trump is elected and saves the Russian empire.

Ukraine rains US cluster bombs on Russian troops in major counteroffensive victory​

Gruesome footage shows dozens of Russian soldiers cut down by Ukraine’s cluster munitions while fleeing the village of Urozhaine.

The village had been under assault by Kyiv’s forces - including the entirety of its marine corps - since June and was a key Russian stronghold on the road to Mariupol.

When the Russian garrison began retreating, it did so on foot in full view of Ukrainian reconnaissance drones.

In a pair of videos released by Ukraine’s Ministry of Defence, columns of Russian soldiers can be seen hurrying down a road, completely exposed. The mistake led to a bloodbath.

In the first video, an artillery shell lands blowing Russian soldiers to the ground as it detonates.

Then - in the second video - Ukraine launches another strike on the retreating column using cluster bombs on the exposed soldiers.

Although it’s unclear how many Russian troops were killed in the strike, M483A1’s submunitions are each “capable of penetrating more than 2.5 inches of rolled homogeneous armour [or] incapacitating personnel,” according to the US Army field manual.

Each explosive bomblet is capable of shedding armoured vehicles. The submunitions appear to have decimated the exposed Russian forces.

The news of the village’s capture was first reported Saturday as Russian military bloggers lamented the major Ukrainian victory.

One blogger blamed Russia’s 37th Brigade tank forces for “refusing” to support infantry in the destroyed town claiming “half of the brigade is busy drinking alcohol in the rear, and the officers are not able to bring them to their senses”.

However, not every analyst is in agreement that the town is completely in Ukrainian control - although it appears any Russian forces clinging to positions in southern Urozhaine are in a dire situation.

“ISW has not observed confirmation that Russian forces have completely withdrawn from Urozhaine and Russian forces likely currently maintain positions in at least the southern part of the settlement,” the Institute for the Study of War said Sunday.

On Monday, the think-tank confirmed Ukrainian forces had entered central Urozhaine in geo-located videos.

The exposed Russia soldiers were hit with bomblets capable of piercing armour. (Image: Ukraine MoD)

The capture of Urozhaine is a key step in Kyiv’s plan to push down the Mokri Yaly River Valley towards Mariupol and the Black Sea.

It appears the entire Ukrainian marine corps has been thrown into the fierce fighting on this small 10-mile strip of the southern front.

The next village on the axis - one of about a dozen more before Mariupol - is the heavily defended Staromlynivka.

Ukraine rains US cluster bombs on Russian troops in key counteroffensive victory

Ukraine has taken the village of Urozhaine after the collapse of Russian defences there in a significant step on the road to Mariupol and the Black Sea.

www.the-express.com

 

[ESay]

Have you the remotest idea how far it is to Mariupol from the present front line -- for a raggle taggle group that once managed to advance three inches in a day

Well, anyway, it is much closer than Odesa is, which you expect to be seized by the Russians soon.

 

[ThirdTerm]

Russian claims are slightly exaggerated as always. The war is a stalemate. Ukraine would only surrender after the fall of Kiev and a regime change.

Kyiv kicked off its long anticipated counter offensive in June, but has acknowledged tough battles as it struggles to break through heavily fortified Russian positions.

While Ukraine has claimed gains around the war-torn city of Bakhmut in its east, Russia has claimed advances around the town of Kupiansk in the northeastern Kharkiv region.

 

[luiza]

Russian claims are slightly exaggerated as always. The war is a stalemate. Ukraine would only surrender after the fall of Kiev and a regime change.

Dear Uncle P has no great interest in Kyiv other than for points of infrastructure . If you think the war is a stalemate ,explain how Kyiv has lost two armies , is rapidly losing a third and casualties are of the order of ten Nazis to one Russian -- in line with artillery superiority .That is not stalemate . That is Russia out thinking and outsmarting a smaller force and waiting until it is using 16 year old boys and men over 50 -- which is exactly what is happening right now .

 

[luiza]

Well, anyway, it is much closer than Odesa is, which you expect to be seized by the Russians soon.

It might as well be the moon because at the current rate of occasional movement it will take them centuries to get half way , let alone to the repaired city of Mariupol .

 

[luiza]

Ukraine rains US cluster bombs on Russian troops in major counteroffensive victory​

Gruesome footage shows dozens of Russian soldiers cut down by Ukraine’s cluster munitions while fleeing the village of Urozhaine.

The village had been under assault by Kyiv’s forces - including the entirety of its marine corps - since June and was a key Russian stronghold on the road to Mariupol.

When the Russian garrison began retreating, it did so on foot in full view of Ukrainian reconnaissance drones.

In a pair of videos released by Ukraine’s Ministry of Defence, columns of Russian soldiers can be seen hurrying down a road, completely exposed. The mistake led to a bloodbath.

In the first video, an artillery shell lands blowing Russian soldiers to the ground as it detonates.

Then - in the second video - Ukraine launches another strike on the retreating column using cluster bombs on the exposed soldiers.

Although it’s unclear how many Russian troops were killed in the strike, M483A1’s submunitions are each “capable of penetrating more than 2.5 inches of rolled homogeneous armour [or] incapacitating personnel,” according to the US Army field manual.

Each explosive bomblet is capable of shedding armoured vehicles. The submunitions appear to have decimated the exposed Russian forces.

The news of the village’s capture was first reported Saturday as Russian military bloggers lamented the major Ukrainian victory.

One blogger blamed Russia’s 37th Brigade tank forces for “refusing” to support infantry in the destroyed town claiming “half of the brigade is busy drinking alcohol in the rear, and the officers are not able to bring them to their senses”.

However, not every analyst is in agreement that the town is completely in Ukrainian control - although it appears any Russian forces clinging to positions in southern Urozhaine are in a dire situation.

“ISW has not observed confirmation that Russian forces have completely withdrawn from Urozhaine and Russian forces likely currently maintain positions in at least the southern part of the settlement,” the Institute for the Study of War said Sunday.

On Monday, the think-tank confirmed Ukrainian forces had entered central Urozhaine in geo-located videos.

The exposed Russia soldiers were hit with bomblets capable of piercing armour. (Image: Ukraine MoD)

The capture of Urozhaine is a key step in Kyiv’s plan to push down the Mokri Yaly River Valley towards Mariupol and the Black Sea.

It appears the entire Ukrainian marine corps has been thrown into the fierce fighting on this small 10-mile strip of the southern front.

The next village on the axis - one of about a dozen more before Mariupol - is the heavily defended Staromlynivka.

You are an idiot . Urozohaine is a deserted village with 15 buildings . The Russians simply withdrew to higher ground , waited for the Stupids to move in and blew them to kingdome come .. Stop doing a Copy and Paste job from the Bumbleton Gazette and stop making a total fool of yourself .BTW , Urozhaine is in the Grey Zone and the Stupids have not even reached the first defence line .

 

[Ringo]

Another scandal in Ukraine. The Ukrainian Defense Ministry bought jackets and helmets for the AFU at a multiply inflated price.
Jackets of Turkish company crossed the border in Moldova at the price of $27,500 per batch, and in Ukraine they came at $367,500. That's not all.

The supplied clothes did not meet the technical conditions of the contract and they cannot be used for their intended purpose. And that's not all
After that the clothes started to be sold en masse through Internet sites. That is, even this rotten stuff, purchased at 15 times the price, did not reach the Ukronazis on the front line.

 

[Donald H]

Never even suggested American boots on the ground -- that would definitely guarantee a Kyiv loss given the US glorious losing record . I implied that the US might get someone else to do their dirty work and the only likely prospect are the Pollocks . But , in general terms, nobody will be keen to make that sort of committment and particularly if more banks go under , perhaps very soon .It might get interesting if it is decided to send in a few F16s . Then there will be carnage because they will be obliterated in minutes and they have one guarantee of total failure which I will disclose at the right moment . BTW , my OP was written with heavy sarcasm and also was a bit of a wind-up for the Trolls who come out of their caves when Khazaria is mentioned or the subject of backing losing horses appears .

. Unless NATO , and its big bad Boss, the US , can do something helpful and get some decent boots on the ground to face the Red Army .

Your petulance is tiring.

You need to start disclosing instead of stupid idle threats.

 

[luiza]

Your petulance is tiring.

You need to start disclosing instead of stupid idle threats.

Do not blame me for your comprehension error .My post was clear and you simply did not take care when you read it .You do not cope very well with criticism and I probably do get irritated with people who are not half as smart as they seem to imagine they are .But to help you see that I listen, I am disclosing that I often find you to be a pompous ass .And my belief is that this is something that you will have heard a few times in your life .

 

[Ringo]

The evidence gathered by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation has been recognized by the Supreme Court of the Luhansk People's Republic as sufficient to convict Vladimir Kazyuk, commander of the 3rd company of the 10th separate mountain assault battalion (military unit A4267) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He was found guilty of committing crimes under part 1 of article 356 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (cruel treatment of civilians and use of prohibited means and methods in an armed conflict) and part 2 of article 167 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (intentional damage to other people's property in a generally dangerous way).

The investigation and the court found that from June 1 to 5, 2022 Kazyuk, being the commander of a tank company and being with his unit in a forest belt at a distance of 7 kilometers from the village of Vrubovka, received coordinates for shelling. After adjusting the fire using a tablet with a special program, he fired 25 rounds of fragmentation-fugitive shells from tanks at houses and public places in Vrubovka.
As a result of the massive shelling, private houses received multiple damages.

According to one of the victims, at the time when the Ukrainian armed forces occupied the vicinity of Vrubivka, there were about 100 people living in the village - these were people who were not allowed to enter the territory of Russia by the Ukrainian military. Despite the fact that Ukrainian troops occupied the neighborhood of the village, they systematically shelled Vrubivka. In response to complaints that the local population was suffering, Ukrainian servicemen said that according to their documents there was no local population here, and they could do whatever they wanted.
Kazyuk fully admitted guilt and repented of his actions. The court sentenced him to 15 years of imprisonment in a strict regime colony.
The verdict was based on numerous evidences: testimonies of the convicted person, victims, witnesses, expert reports, protocols of inspection of places of occurrence, on-the-spot testimony and other documents.

The evidence collected by the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation was recognized by the Supreme Court of the Donetsk People's Republic as sufficient for the sentencing of Andrei Bogdan, who was performing military service under contract in the 3rd company of the 1st battalion of the military unit of the National Guard of Ukraine (the nationalist regiment "Azov" banned in the Russian Federation). He was found guilty of committing crimes under part 1 of article 356 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (cruel treatment of civilians, use of prohibited means and methods in an armed conflict) and paras. "g, l", part 2, article 105 of the Criminal Code (murder committed by an organized group on the grounds of political and ideological hatred.

The investigation and the court found that in March 2022 Bogdan together with his fellow soldiers was at an observation position near the house on Taganrogskaya Street in the city of Mariupol. Acting on the orders of the leadership of the AFU and other Ukrainian military formations, they stopped a car with two DNR servicemen in it, one of whom was wounded, on a stretch of road at the intersection of Taganrogskaya Street and Unity Avenue. Bogdan then took the wounded serviceman to a nearby building and shot him with an automatic rifle. The man died of his injuries on the spot.
During the preliminary investigation, Bogdan fully admitted his guilt in what he had done.
The court sentenced Bogdan to 25 years' imprisonment in a strict regime colony.

The evidence collected by the Investigative Committee was recognized by the court as sufficient to convict Vasily Shitra, a serviceman of the 23rd separate motorized infantry battalion of the 56 separate motorized infantry brigade of the AFU (military unit A0989). He was found guilty of committing crimes under part 1 of article 356 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (cruel treatment of civilians, use of prohibited methods in armed conflict), paragraphs "a", "g", "l" of part 2 of article 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (murder of two or more persons, committed by an organized group, motivated by political or ideological hatred).

The investigation and the court found that between April 5 and 7, 2022, the composition of the above battalion, including Shitrya, was stationed in combat positions equipped in residential houses and civilian infrastructure buildings in the city of Mariupol.
Shitrya found four civilians (two women and two men) moving along Nikolskiy Avenue towards the combat position he was occupying. He reported this to his commander, after which he received an order to kill the civilians he found.
Executing a knowingly criminal order, believing that the above-mentioned people could support the special military operation, assist the armed forces of the DNR and the Russian Federation, and take a pro-Russian position, Shitrya fired at least 27 aimed shots at them with his firearm. As a result, the victims died at the scene of the crime.
It follows from Shitrya's testimony that he did not see any weapons in the possession of the above-mentioned civilians and that they did not pose any apparent threat to him. After the crime was committed, the bodies of the murdered persons were left lying in the street, no one removed them, and he does not know what happened to them later.
During the investigation of the criminal case more than 30 witnesses were questioned, ballistic, medical-criminalistic and other forensic examinations were conducted, various objects found at the scene were examined.
Shitrya pleaded guilty and repented of his actions.
The court sentenced Shitrya to life imprisonment.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Do not blame me for your comprehension error .My post was clear and you simply did not take care when you read it .You do not cope very well with criticism and I probably do get irritated with people who are not half as smart as they seem to imagine they are .But to help you see that I listen, I am disclosing that I often find you to be a pompous ass .And my belief is that this is something that you will have heard a few times in your life .

I would call you a sniviler but I don't want to lower myself to your standards. You and your partner in crme sharing some artificial banter. Who is this act for exactly?

 

[Ringo]

In Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, police storm the buildings where monks live
Everything is according to the canons of the western world. There they burn holy books and in Ukraine police storm churches.
Apparently, that's what the Maidan was for.

 

[Donald H]

Do not blame me for your comprehension error .My post was clear and you simply did not take care when you read it .You do not cope very well with criticism and I probably do get irritated with people who are not half as smart as they seem to imagine they are .But to help you see that I listen, I am disclosing that I often find you to be a pompous ass .And my belief is that this is something that you will have heard a few times in your life .

Minor personal differences are of no importance to me. I'm just happy to have you being one of us who know the truth on how America is responsible for the war against Russia.