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Reuters -- Russia lays out demands for talks with US on Ukraine, sources say
12 Mar 2025 ~~ By Erin Banco and Jonathan Landay

Russia has presented the U.S. with a list of demands for a deal to end its war against Ukraine and reset relations with Washington, according to two people familiar with the matter.
It is not clear what exactly Moscow included on its list or whether it is willing to engage in peace talks with Kyiv prior to their acceptance. Russian and American officials discussed the terms during in-person and virtual conversations over the last three weeks, the people said.
They described the Kremlin's terms as broad and similar to demands it previously has presented to Ukraine, the U.S. and NATO.
Those earlier terms included no NATO membership for Kyiv, an agreement not to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine and international recognition of President Vladimir Putin's claim that Crimea and four provinces belong to Russia.
Russia, in recent years, also has demanded the U.S. and NATO address what it has called the "root causes" of the war, including NATO's eastward expansion.
U.S. President Donald Trump is awaiting word from Putin on whether he will agree to a 30-day truce that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Tuesday he would accept as a first step toward peace talks.
~Snip~
In Kyiv, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy hailed this week's meeting in Saudi Arabia between U.S. and Ukrainian officials as constructive, and said a potential 30-day ceasefire with Russia could be used to draft a broader peace deal.
Moscow has raised many of these same demands over the last two decades, some making their way into formal negotiations with the U.S. and Europe.
ā€œThere’s no sign that the Russians are willing to make any concessions,ā€ said Angela Stent, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who was the top U.S. intelligence analyst for Russia and Eurasia. ā€œThe demands haven’t changed at all. I think they are not really interested in peace or a meaningful ceasefire.ā€
~Snip~
The Russians also sought to bar military exercises by the U.S. or NATO from Eastern Europe to the Caucasus and Central Asia, the documents showed.
"These are the same Russian demands that have been made since 1945," said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who directs foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. "With the behavior of the Trump administration in recent weeks, Europeans aren’t just scared we’re abandoning them, they’re afraid we’ve joined the enemy."


Commentary:
Typical of the beginning gambit of any negotiations the opposing parties begin by asking for the most grandiose demands possible. So. Putin's opening is demand all and give up nothing. Some how that doesn't seem like the way to a lasting peace plan. And if Putin is demanding that no deployment of foreign troops in Ukraine. How can we be sure that Putin wouldn't attack Ukraine all over again.
I foresee, a few months of negotiating until this is completed. For one Putin has to be placed on his back foot. What is needed is that the Russia need to be whittled down an begin to lose ground.
I see a big error in Trump's denial of electronic/space intelligence gathering that gave Russian forces the edge to take more ground in the Kursk region.
See more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...re-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/
Notably Gen. Keith Kellogg and Steve Witkoff are working in tandem to negotiate the end of this war...
Meanwhile, It's foolish to think Putin will simply stop fighting unless concession are on paper. He is winning so he does not have to stop so peace treaty NATO can decide what they want to do with a non NATO country.
 
". . . They described the Kremlin's terms as broad and similar to demands it previously has presented to Ukraine, the U.S. and NATO.

Those earlier terms included no NATO membership for Kyiv, an agreement not to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine and international recognition of President Vladimir Putin's claim that Crimea and four provinces belong to Russia.

Russia, in recent years, also has demanded the U.S. and NATO address what it has called the "root causes" of the war, including NATO's eastward expansion. . . "

Putin's opening is demand all and give up nothing.

That isn't really the case here. If the west & Ukraine are smart they will take this. There is no way they are going to get that territory back short of a nuclear exchange.


It's foolish to think Putin will simply stop fighting unless concession are on paper.

So .. . . YOU DO KNOW, that Putin is giving up his position in a war that is going well for the Russians.

He'll let Kyiv keep Odessa and Kherson, if the west and Ukraine act with intelligence now.

Otherwise? Ukraine is sure to lose its next two biggest cities, and it will then truly be a rump state.
 
Reuters -- Russia lays out demands for talks with US on Ukraine, sources say
12 Mar 2025 ~~ By Erin Banco and Jonathan Landay

Russia has presented the U.S. with a list of demands for a deal to end its war against Ukraine and reset relations with Washington, according to two people familiar with the matter.
It is not clear what exactly Moscow included on its list or whether it is willing to engage in peace talks with Kyiv prior to their acceptance. Russian and American officials discussed the terms during in-person and virtual conversations over the last three weeks, the people said.
They described the Kremlin's terms as broad and similar to demands it previously has presented to Ukraine, the U.S. and NATO.
Those earlier terms included no NATO membership for Kyiv, an agreement not to deploy foreign troops in Ukraine and international recognition of President Vladimir Putin's claim that Crimea and four provinces belong to Russia.
Russia, in recent years, also has demanded the U.S. and NATO address what it has called the "root causes" of the war, including NATO's eastward expansion.
U.S. President Donald Trump is awaiting word from Putin on whether he will agree to a 30-day truce that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Tuesday he would accept as a first step toward peace talks.
~Snip~
In Kyiv, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy hailed this week's meeting in Saudi Arabia between U.S. and Ukrainian officials as constructive, and said a potential 30-day ceasefire with Russia could be used to draft a broader peace deal.
Moscow has raised many of these same demands over the last two decades, some making their way into formal negotiations with the U.S. and Europe.
ā€œThere’s no sign that the Russians are willing to make any concessions,ā€ said Angela Stent, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution who was the top U.S. intelligence analyst for Russia and Eurasia. ā€œThe demands haven’t changed at all. I think they are not really interested in peace or a meaningful ceasefire.ā€
~Snip~
The Russians also sought to bar military exercises by the U.S. or NATO from Eastern Europe to the Caucasus and Central Asia, the documents showed.
"These are the same Russian demands that have been made since 1945," said Kori Schake, a former Pentagon official who directs foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute. "With the behavior of the Trump administration in recent weeks, Europeans aren’t just scared we’re abandoning them, they’re afraid we’ve joined the enemy."


Commentary:
Typical of the beginning gambit of any negotiations the opposing parties begin by asking for the most grandiose demands possible. So. Putin's opening is demand all and give up nothing. Some how that doesn't seem like the way to a lasting peace plan. And if Putin is demanding that no deployment of foreign troops in Ukraine. How can we be sure that Putin wouldn't attack Ukraine all over again.
I foresee, a few months of negotiating until this is completed. For one Putin has to be placed on his back foot. What is needed is that the Russia need to be whittled down an begin to lose ground.
I see a big error in Trump's denial of electronic/space intelligence gathering that gave Russian forces the edge to take more ground in the Kursk region.
See more: https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...re-kilometre-advance-kursk-region-2025-03-11/
Notably Gen. Keith Kellogg and Steve Witkoff are working in tandem to negotiate the end of this war...
Meanwhile, It's foolish to think Putin will simply stop fighting unless concession are on paper. He is winning so he does not have to stop so peace treaty NATO can decide what they want to do with a non NATO country.
These peace negotiations usually are not settled in a couple/three hours unless it's an unconditional surrender. It will take some time but the end result must both be realistic for all involved & just as important in its own right, LONG LASTING. International trade with Russia would bring Russian folks some benefits for sure & also bring Russia into the international trading community so Russia would not feel isolated where hostility could start brewing. Considering the situation in the middle east with the never ending islamo problem plus the wild card commie China problem humanity needs as much peace & solidarity between the nations as possible but still remain a world of sovereign individual nations.
 

Exclusive:​

Putin's demands for peace include an end to NATO enlargement, sources say​

28 May 2025 ~~ By Guy Faulconbridge

Summary
  • Putin wants written pledge to halt NATO expansion eastwards, sources say
  • Russia also seeks lifting of sanctions and protection for Russian speakers in Ukraine
  • Ukraine has insisted on NATO membership aspirations despite Russian demands
MOSCOW, May 28 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin's conditions for ending the war in Ukraine include a demand that Western leaders pledge in writing to stop enlarging NATO eastwards and lift a chunk of sanctions on Russia, according to three Russian sources with knowledge of the negotiations.
U.S. President Donald Trump has repeatedly said he wants to end the deadliest European conflict since World War Two and has shown increasing frustration with Putin in recent days, warning on Tuesday the Russian leader was "playing with fire" by refusing to engage in ceasefire talks with Kyiv as his forces made gains on the battlefield.
~Snip~
The three Russian sources said Putin wants a "written" pledge by major Western powers not to enlarge the U.S.-led NATO alliance eastwards - shorthand for formally ruling out membership to Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova and other former Soviet republics.
Russia also wants Ukraine to be neutral, some Western sanctions lifted, a resolution of the issue of frozen Russian sovereign assets in the West, and protection for Russian speakers in Ukraine, the three sources said.
The first source said that, if Putin realizes he is unable to reach a peace deal on his own terms, he will seek to show the Ukrainians and the Europeans by military victories that "peace tomorrow will be even more painful".
~Snip~
Reuters reported in January that Putin was growing concerned by the economic distortions in Russia's wartime economy, amid labour shortages and high interest rates imposed to curb inflation. The price of oil, the bedrock of Russia's economy, has declined steadily this year.
~Snip~
Western European leaders have repeatedly said that if Russia wins the Ukraine war, it could one day attack NATO itself - a step that would trigger a world war. Russia dismisses such claims as baseless scaremongering, but has also warned the war in Ukraine could escalate into a broader conflict.

Commentary:
Seems odd how Russia still thinks it is the USSR when it wants to violate the national sovereignty of others but claims not to be the USSR whenever people mention the crimes against humanity the USSR committed.
You can't have it both ways..
The people of the Ukraine are the aggrieved parts and want their land returned.
Putin in his avarice may have to relinquish all his gains but the Crimea.
Meanwhile, one has asked about where has the United Nations been in the nearly 3 year war?
Once again the United Nations proves to be as worthless as teats on a boar hog.
 
Ok, mostly what he has been seeking from the beginning.
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I don't think that anything Putin wants or demands is negotiable with the Ukraine, Trump or NATO.
AI say's Putin's demands for a ceasefire, which include conditions like Ukraine's neutrality and a halt to NATO's eastward expansion, have not been accepted by Ukraine or its Western allies, including NATO. Despite Trump's optimistic statements about negotiations, no significant progress has been made towards a ceasefire agreement.
 
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I don't think that anything Putin wants or demands is negotiable with the Ukraine, Trump or NATO.
AI say's Putin's demands for a ceasefire, which include conditions like Ukraine's neutrality and a halt to NATO's eastward expansion, have not been accepted by Ukraine or its Western allies, including NATO. Despite Trump's optimistic statements about negotiations, no significant progress has been made towards a ceasefire agreement.
No problem. One way or another Russia will achieve her goals. If NATO, America or Ukraine don't want peace - we can achieve it by military means.
 
No problem. One way or another Russia will achieve her goals. If NATO, America or Ukraine don't want peace - we can achieve it by military means.
Folks on this forum who mainline Atlantic Council propaganda won't understand this at all.
 
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