Poll - who is a better QB right now, Malik Willis or Cam Ward?

[EMH]

I ask this as a measure of the total "value loss" of Mike Vrabel giving up on Willis too early. Spent a high second rounder on Will Levis, got a 7th trading Willis. Levis didn't work, spent a #1 overall on Cam Ward. That's a lot of Draft Value spent on QB.

I actually think Willis is better than Ward, so I won't vote. Willis needs reps, but his tools are super elite, almost Michael Vick escapability, Elway cannon arm with short quick release, getting better reading defenses and not making the mistakes he made in preseason with TN. Learning curve enough to justify mega bucks in FA, as Malik will be an unrestricted FA very soon....

 

[MarathonMike]

Haven't seen Cam Ward play but Willis was super impressive. He throws a great ball, accurate and he is a threat to run.

 

[leftwinger]

Willis has more time in the league so better now.

But I saw Ward look great at MIA and good today in a win over KC. Yes a win over KC wasn't it? Again RedZone only. Watching some of Pitt at DET.

Long term maybe Ward can catch up.

 

[Couchpotato]

I ask this as a measure of the total "value loss" of Mike Vrabel giving up on Willis too early. Spent a high second rounder on Will Levis, got a 7th trading Willis. Levis didn't work, spent a #1 overall on Cam Ward. That's a lot of Draft Value spent on QB.

I actually think Willis is better than Ward, so I won't vote. Willis needs reps, but his tools are super elite, almost Michael Vick escapability, Elway cannon arm with short quick release, getting better reading defenses and not making the mistakes he made in preseason with TN. Learning curve enough to justify mega bucks in FA, as Malik will be an unrestricted FA very soon....

Ward. He has no OLine and no HC and teams are game planning for him

Willis looked good in that game but he’s got a very good oline and weapons at RB and WR. He also has the advantage at HC and the offensive play caller. The bears didn’t game planning for his style of play either.

 

[EMH]

but he’s got a very good oline

Zach Tom was out that game. Jenkins is on IR. Pack OL banged up.

 

[EMH]

Yes a win over KC wasn't it?

Reminds me of the NFL labor strikes in the 1980s, the Chiefs that took the field yesterday. Remember the


Spare Bears
Phony Niners

 

[EMH]

Haven't seen Cam Ward play but Willis was super impressive. He throws a great ball, accurate and he is a threat to run.

and he's making Mike Vrabel look awfully stupid....

 

[MarathonMike]

and he's making Mike Vrabel look awfully stupid....

I don't Vrabel is stupid but it sure seems like he should have gotten more in the trade for Willis than a 7th round draft pick!

 

[Couchpotato]

Zach Tom was out that game. Jenkins is on IR. Pack OL banged up.

Until you retract the “Spencer Rattler might be the best QB in his draft class” take you have zero credibility on this subject

 

[EMH]

I don't Vrabel is stupid but it sure seems like he should have gotten more in the trade for Willis than a 7th round draft pick!

He gave up too quickly.

Malik was supposed to be a First Round pick after Senior Bowl, where he demonstrated First Round arm and almost Mike Vick escapability.

Then it came out.

"Malik Willis is nowhere near ready" - Pete Carroll

So he fell to Round 3.

Vrabel knew what he had and gave up too fast. That is the undeniable truth now. Look at what happened to the Titans since Vrabel gave up on Malik.

 

[EMH]

Until you retract the “Spencer Rattler might be the best QB in his draft class” take you have zero credibility on this subject

You were saying Jayden Daniels was the shit last year, what does that make you?

 

[Couchpotato]

You were saying Jayden Daniels was the shit last year, what does that make you?

I just said he was better than Rattler and he is.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Us byu/utah fans laughed when the Pack drafted Love. He's to slow at critical times
I hope Malik starts saturday against the ravens

 

[EMH]

I just said he was better than Rattler and he is.

He was last year. As so many "gurus" predicted, his thin frame would not survive long as a running QB in the NFL.

 

[EMH]

Us byu/utah fans laughed when the Pack drafted Love. He's to slow at critical times
I hope Malik starts saturday against the ravens

I was actually thinking along the same lines, that Malik is a better QB than Love.

 

[Couchpotato]

He was last year. As so many "gurus" predicted, his thin frame would not survive long as a running QB in the NFL.

He’s been better than Rattler this year even while injured. Are you really this oblivious to just how terrible Rattler has been?

 

[Couchpotato]

I was actually thinking along the same lines, that Malik is a better QB than Love.

I seriously think you should be barred from posting or even talking about NFL quarterbacks. I'm not sure I wouldn't support the government arresting you for it at this point.

 

[EMH]

I seriously think you should be barred from posting or even talking about NFL quarterbacks. I'm not sure I wouldn't support the government arresting you for it at this point.

How dare you disagree with the "gurus" couchpotato parrots...!!!!

 

[Couchpotato]

How dare you disagree with the "gurus" couchpotato parrots...!!!!

Yes we should all listen to a random guy on the internet who provides no other evidence for his asertions other than

"Because I said" and "no seriously Im right".

 

[EMH]

Yes we should all listen to a random guy on the internet who provides no other evidence for his asertions other than

"Because I said" and "no seriously Im right".

A QB is graded on accuracy, range of throws, quickness of release, decision making, pocket presence, arm strength, and escapability.

Rattler isn't the most mobile of QBs, but he scores extremely highly on all of the other issues. Many people noticed. Many Saint fans were shocked when he got benched. I think that was the plan all along, to give Spencer and Tyler each a half season. We'll find out who won at some point in the mind of Kellen Moore.