Zone1 Perhaps ironically, G-d is more believable through the presence of math and science

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There have been countless mathematicians and scientists who became believers through their work in such definitive disciplines and I may understand the connection. When I was teaching myself advanced calculus and algebra a few years ago (much of.which I forgot or would need a primer again to apply much of it confidently today) I couldn't help but associate the beauty of how it all worked, how man created this construct, how impressive our species mind must be in order to be the originator of these theories and laws. It was similar for coding and the application of alogoritms and logic in the coding process. It was so perfect and I was addicted to it. It had the feeling of being closer to G-d, knowing that through him, we were able to take the abstract and imperically map out.the impossible. We could even teach anyone willing to learn just how to do it. It is as profund as watching the sun rise, the flowers grow, the birds fly and the schools of dolphins communicate among themselves. The most complex concepts have always been there but somehow we find them.
 
There have been countless mathematicians and scientists who became believers through their work in such definitive disciplines and I may understand the connection. When I was teaching myself advanced calculus and algebra a few years ago (much of.which I forgot or would need a primer again to apply much of it confidently today) I couldn't help but associate the beauty of how it all worked, how man created this construct, how impressive our species mind must be in order to be the originator of these theories and laws. It was similar for coding and the application of alogoritms and logic in the coding process. It was so perfect and I was addicted to it. It had the feeling of being closer to G-d, knowing that through him, we were able to take the abstract and imperically map out.the impossible. We could even teach anyone willing to learn just how to do it. It is as profund as watching the sun rise, the flowers grow, the birds fly and the schools of dolphins communicate among themselves. The most complex concepts have always been there but somehow we find them.
Why do you find this to be ironic?
 
There have been countless mathematicians and scientists who became believers through their work in such definitive disciplines and I may understand the connection. When I was teaching myself advanced calculus and algebra a few years ago (much of.which I forgot or would need a primer again to apply much of it confidently today) I couldn't help but associate the beauty of how it all worked, how man created this construct, how impressive our species mind must be in order to be the originator of these theories and laws. It was similar for coding and the application of alogoritms and logic in the coding process. It was so perfect and I was addicted to it. It had the feeling of being closer to G-d, knowing that through him, we were able to take the abstract and imperically map out.the impossible. We could even teach anyone willing to learn just how to do it. It is as profund as watching the sun rise, the flowers grow, the birds fly and the schools of dolphins communicate among themselves. The most complex concepts have always been there but somehow we find them.
The Physical constants of the universe expressed in mathematical terms are simply amazing. Look at what Einstein was able to predict with the application mathematical constants!
 
There have been countless mathematicians and scientists who became believers through their work in such definitive disciplines and I may understand the connection. When I was teaching myself advanced calculus and algebra a few years ago (much of.which I forgot or would need a primer again to apply much of it confidently today) I couldn't help but associate the beauty of how it all worked, how man created this construct, how impressive our species mind must be in order to be the originator of these theories and laws. It was similar for coding and the application of alogoritms and logic in the coding process. It was so perfect and I was addicted to it. It had the feeling of being closer to G-d, knowing that through him, we were able to take the abstract and imperically map out.the impossible. We could even teach anyone willing to learn just how to do it. It is as profund as watching the sun rise, the flowers grow, the birds fly and the schools of dolphins communicate among themselves. The most complex concepts have always been there but somehow we find them.

Depends what you think God is, really.
 
Studying the earth sciences in school I was convinced that Gods hand is in it all. Theres is not anything that happens by accident in the universe.
 
Theres is not anything that happens by accident in the universe.

that might prove the hand of the heavens - were the above true ...

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however cause seems most in the universe is by happenstance - life though would be cumulative lending to some metaphysical guidance is true, just in no way related whatsoever to the phony desert religions. is the true message from jesus and the 1st century events to find the truth - not self rewarding bibles and their lies.
 
how's that, christian - have you an example.
Sure, ever looked for missing keys? You knew what you were looking for, right? That way when you came upon them, you stopped looking for them.
 
Sure, ever looked for missing keys? You knew what you were looking for, right? That way when you came upon them, you stopped looking for them.

please, forgive me - for asking ...
 
if that's you bing - would be better to keep it to yourself ...
 
how's that, christian - have you an example.

If you say "God is everything", then clearly God exists.
If you say "God is the laws of the universe", then clearly God exists.
If you say "God is the father of Jesus", then there's nothing clear about God existing at all. Almost impossible to prove God exists.
 
If you say "God is everything", then clearly God exists.
If you say "God is the laws of the universe", then clearly God exists.
God isn't everything and God isn't the laws of the universe. The painter is not the painting.

God isn't a thing. God is an action. God provides reality to all places at all times.
 
If you say "God is the father of Jesus", then there's nothing clear about God existing at all. Almost impossible to prove God exists.
The Trinity is a relationship to be entered into. It's not a mystery to be solved. If you are looking for proof of God, you'll have enter into that relationship to find it.
 
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