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The Democratic primary season will soon be upon us. Lets talk about the reality of the situation, and how this stacks up for a Democratic meltdown AGAIN!
I ask you to remember what happened in 2016 with Bernie and Hillary, and we will address this later as it will be worse this time. I am pretty certain, that the rules have been changed, so that DEMOCRAT SUPER DELEGATES do NOT vote, until or unless there is a 2nd ballot.
CONTINUING ON------------------> from 1/2, to 2/3rds of the states are PLUARITY votes, which means what?
It means that is NOT winner take all, rather the delegates are split proportionally between the candidates, depending upon what % of the vote they carried. ERGO, if 25 delegates are up for grabs, Bernie could get 10, Biden could get 6, and the rest could be split amongst the remaining candidates.
After the 1st 4 to 6 primaries, more than likely, you will be down to 5 or 6 candidates, as support and financial backing drop for the candidates not winning, or having larger % vote tallies, making them unviable.
So what happens?
Well, whatever Delegates these people accrue, at the convention, the former candidate can ASK them to cast their vote for whomever they choose of the remaining candidates in the race, if none of those candidates have a winning vote tally already, by themselves.
So who are the 2, 800 pd Political operators on the ballot?
ANSWER----------> Bernie, and Joe Biden!
Can either of them break the threshold without having a brokered convention?
ANSWER------------->NOT LIKELY!
With so many candidates, and with it probably NOT dropping down to 2 before the last 5 to 8 primaries, the vote is going to be split to thinly for them to garner enough winning votes. Expect the Bern to be in the lead by a comfortable margin from youth support, and Biden trailing in 2nd place badly through most of the primaries.
You MUST remember-------------->in primaries, only 15 to 20% of party voters actually vote. This means that...…….the most ardent supporters behind a candidate, are the ones who show up. That would be BERNIE! While youth is wasted on the young, you better believe they will show up, which is how he almost beat Hillary the last time! Now, the vote will be watered down even MORE!
So, does ANYONE think that if Bernie does NOT get the required number of delegates to win on the 1st ballot, he will capture the Democratic nomination, for President, of These United States?!?!?!?!
If you said yes, hell yes, then you do not know how politics work! Bernie is not even a Democrat, he lists himself as an independent. Add to that, while he MIGHT carry the largest number of delegates into the convention, the Democrats know that if it was only he and Biden running by themselves, Biden would smoke him!
It is also a proven statement, then when Republican you run to the right in the primaries, just as the Democrats run left. But when the general arrives, BOTH political party's, run to the CENTER! Can anyone see Bernie running to the center? He probably only has 5000 videos out there, showing how he is a Socialist, has always BEEN a Socialist, and will ALWAYS be a Socialist! Call Democrats out of touch all you want, but DUMB they are NOT! The youth of America may embrace it, but middle America and anyone over the age of 40 will march down to their polling place, and insure that a SOCIALIST is NOT installed as their President!
And so, the point of this intellectual exercise is---------------->that Bernie has 0...…..let me spell that for you, Z-E-R-O chance of winning the nomination, unless he wins it on the 1st ballot, period, END OF STORY, unless of course the Democrats believe that there is no way, no how, no person running on their side, that can beat Trump! But that has danger written all over it! What if Bernie won, and the Democrats had to stand AGAINST him themselves, which they would, because Bernie policies are a narrative, lol. Even most Democrats know and understand...……...they do NOT work, and we can't afford them!
And so, expect if Bernie does NOT win on the 1st ballot, the SUPERDELEGATES will give the nod to Biden, or whomever they see as a better choice, and more likely to win.
And what will that do to the eventual nominee on the Democratic side, AND how will Bernie supporters react if he is IN THE LEAD, and it again is stolen from him?
That is what politics is made of, it really is! It is said (how true it is, I do not know) that Ted Kennedy running in the primary, cost Jimmy Carter re-election. Is that accurate? Probably, but you can't prove a negative, you can only speculate. Kennedy supporters, did NOT show at the polls in the general for Carter, and more than likely, we would have some of that today with Bernie supporters should his nomination be sidelined and he was in the lead.
I would also like to divert a little to this---------------> if Trump DOES prove that it was a conspiracy against him, which seems more and more probable with each passing day, BERNIE is the LEAST touched by this as he is an independent. That independent moniker will serve him well, as he would certainly distance himself from the Obama Administration, and since he never ran against Obama, he could do so without being seen as a sellout. In essence, he could play BOTH sides of the fence. Out rage at what was done to Trump, while not having to defend the people who did it!
And so, I urge you political junkies to watch closely! If the BERN moves out quickly, pressure will be brought to bear instantaneously on lower level candidates to drop, so as their voters are free to vote for what as seen as a more MODERATE candidate, and they will be CHIDED TO ENDORSE; and trust me, it won't be Bernie!
This political theatre on the Democratic side, is going to teach a lot of people about politics, how it REALLY works, along with how nasty it really it is!
And, it should also tell you thinking individuals why they all HATE Trump so badly! He defied the odds, and pulled it off, and since the day he took office, both sides of ingrained politicians want him OUT OF THERE!
Can Bernie pull off the same thing again?
I would say no, because BOTH sides learned from what happened with Trump. They will NOT make the same mistake again, but one never knows! Maybe, Bernie can pull the proverbial rabbit out of a hat, ala Trump! But young Leftists, I wouldn't bet the farm on it, unless your wallet only has 5 or 6 bucks in it! Any more than that, and it is a very, very, bad, bet! Just think------------>if the swamp can tie Trump up for over 2 years, what do you think they can do to Bernie, when he doesn't have the power of the Presidency behind him. Sad, but true!
I ask you to remember what happened in 2016 with Bernie and Hillary, and we will address this later as it will be worse this time. I am pretty certain, that the rules have been changed, so that DEMOCRAT SUPER DELEGATES do NOT vote, until or unless there is a 2nd ballot.
CONTINUING ON------------------> from 1/2, to 2/3rds of the states are PLUARITY votes, which means what?
It means that is NOT winner take all, rather the delegates are split proportionally between the candidates, depending upon what % of the vote they carried. ERGO, if 25 delegates are up for grabs, Bernie could get 10, Biden could get 6, and the rest could be split amongst the remaining candidates.
After the 1st 4 to 6 primaries, more than likely, you will be down to 5 or 6 candidates, as support and financial backing drop for the candidates not winning, or having larger % vote tallies, making them unviable.
So what happens?
Well, whatever Delegates these people accrue, at the convention, the former candidate can ASK them to cast their vote for whomever they choose of the remaining candidates in the race, if none of those candidates have a winning vote tally already, by themselves.
So who are the 2, 800 pd Political operators on the ballot?
ANSWER----------> Bernie, and Joe Biden!
Can either of them break the threshold without having a brokered convention?
ANSWER------------->NOT LIKELY!
With so many candidates, and with it probably NOT dropping down to 2 before the last 5 to 8 primaries, the vote is going to be split to thinly for them to garner enough winning votes. Expect the Bern to be in the lead by a comfortable margin from youth support, and Biden trailing in 2nd place badly through most of the primaries.
You MUST remember-------------->in primaries, only 15 to 20% of party voters actually vote. This means that...…….the most ardent supporters behind a candidate, are the ones who show up. That would be BERNIE! While youth is wasted on the young, you better believe they will show up, which is how he almost beat Hillary the last time! Now, the vote will be watered down even MORE!
So, does ANYONE think that if Bernie does NOT get the required number of delegates to win on the 1st ballot, he will capture the Democratic nomination, for President, of These United States?!?!?!?!
If you said yes, hell yes, then you do not know how politics work! Bernie is not even a Democrat, he lists himself as an independent. Add to that, while he MIGHT carry the largest number of delegates into the convention, the Democrats know that if it was only he and Biden running by themselves, Biden would smoke him!
It is also a proven statement, then when Republican you run to the right in the primaries, just as the Democrats run left. But when the general arrives, BOTH political party's, run to the CENTER! Can anyone see Bernie running to the center? He probably only has 5000 videos out there, showing how he is a Socialist, has always BEEN a Socialist, and will ALWAYS be a Socialist! Call Democrats out of touch all you want, but DUMB they are NOT! The youth of America may embrace it, but middle America and anyone over the age of 40 will march down to their polling place, and insure that a SOCIALIST is NOT installed as their President!
And so, the point of this intellectual exercise is---------------->that Bernie has 0...…..let me spell that for you, Z-E-R-O chance of winning the nomination, unless he wins it on the 1st ballot, period, END OF STORY, unless of course the Democrats believe that there is no way, no how, no person running on their side, that can beat Trump! But that has danger written all over it! What if Bernie won, and the Democrats had to stand AGAINST him themselves, which they would, because Bernie policies are a narrative, lol. Even most Democrats know and understand...……...they do NOT work, and we can't afford them!
And so, expect if Bernie does NOT win on the 1st ballot, the SUPERDELEGATES will give the nod to Biden, or whomever they see as a better choice, and more likely to win.
And what will that do to the eventual nominee on the Democratic side, AND how will Bernie supporters react if he is IN THE LEAD, and it again is stolen from him?
That is what politics is made of, it really is! It is said (how true it is, I do not know) that Ted Kennedy running in the primary, cost Jimmy Carter re-election. Is that accurate? Probably, but you can't prove a negative, you can only speculate. Kennedy supporters, did NOT show at the polls in the general for Carter, and more than likely, we would have some of that today with Bernie supporters should his nomination be sidelined and he was in the lead.
I would also like to divert a little to this---------------> if Trump DOES prove that it was a conspiracy against him, which seems more and more probable with each passing day, BERNIE is the LEAST touched by this as he is an independent. That independent moniker will serve him well, as he would certainly distance himself from the Obama Administration, and since he never ran against Obama, he could do so without being seen as a sellout. In essence, he could play BOTH sides of the fence. Out rage at what was done to Trump, while not having to defend the people who did it!
And so, I urge you political junkies to watch closely! If the BERN moves out quickly, pressure will be brought to bear instantaneously on lower level candidates to drop, so as their voters are free to vote for what as seen as a more MODERATE candidate, and they will be CHIDED TO ENDORSE; and trust me, it won't be Bernie!
This political theatre on the Democratic side, is going to teach a lot of people about politics, how it REALLY works, along with how nasty it really it is!
And, it should also tell you thinking individuals why they all HATE Trump so badly! He defied the odds, and pulled it off, and since the day he took office, both sides of ingrained politicians want him OUT OF THERE!
Can Bernie pull off the same thing again?
I would say no, because BOTH sides learned from what happened with Trump. They will NOT make the same mistake again, but one never knows! Maybe, Bernie can pull the proverbial rabbit out of a hat, ala Trump! But young Leftists, I wouldn't bet the farm on it, unless your wallet only has 5 or 6 bucks in it! Any more than that, and it is a very, very, bad, bet! Just think------------>if the swamp can tie Trump up for over 2 years, what do you think they can do to Bernie, when he doesn't have the power of the Presidency behind him. Sad, but true!
