NV-SEN: The Swamp's Crooked Dean Heller trails alt-right favorite Crazy Danny Tarkanian by 6 points

The Democrats are going to win the seat so it matters little.
 
The Democrats are going to win the seat so it matters little.

the Democrat Party will lose 10 seats in 18, giving the GOP a filibuster proof majority. deal with it.
 
Nominating Tarkanian would basically hand the seat to the Democrats. Tarkanian has lost every single office he has ran for.
 
Nominating Tarkanian would basically hand the seat to the Democrats. Tarkanian has lost every single office he has ran for.

Sharron Angle & Danny Tarkanian should be Nevada's 2 Senators. and you should be the Governor!
 
Nominating Tarkanian would basically hand the seat to the Democrats. Tarkanian has lost every single office he has ran for.





Heller has lost a lot of support up here so I don't think there is any difference election wise between the two. The fact that a totally unethical person like masto could be elected senator says that this states days are numbered. reid and his fellow scumbags have wrecked this state as far as legit elections.
 
Without Illegals CA and NY are in play for Republicans. With a little help from Uncle Vlad, R could literally run the table and flip all 25 Democrat Senate seats
 
Without Illegals CA and NY are in play for Republicans.

No, they aren't because illegals have made zero difference.
Yeah, even though their drivers license automatically registers them to vote they wont because, they are so honest, despite being here under fraudulent illegal pretenses.






That part is not true, but there are illegals who have voted in Clark Co. I don't know about Washoe, but Clark it has happened.
 
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Yeah, even though their drivers license automatically registers them to vote they wont because, they are so honest, despite being here under fraudulent illegal pretenses.
That part is not true, but there are illegals who have voted in Clark Co. I don't know about Washoe, but Clark it has happened.

No, really it is actually EXACTLY true.

Here are some articles to illustrate my point.

The state of California does not verify that those who want to vote when they get their DLs are in fact citizens.
Experts: California voter registration system 'highly susceptible' to fraud

The integrity of elections may be compromised by a lack of oversight of non-citizens registering and voting, said Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Election Law Reform Initiative and senior legal fellow for the Institute for Constitutional Government at The Heritage Foundation.

“If you are talking about California, the state is apparently relying on the illegal alien to tell the state they shouldn’t be registered. There is still an honor system,” said von Spakovsky, co-author of the book “Who's Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk.”

The problem with California is there is no separate verification of citizenship on voter registration, said Charles Bell, Jr., a partner with California-based Bell, McAndrews & Hiltachk, LLP, a law firm that specializes in election law. Applicants can check a box affirming they are citizens, and this is not checked against any other government database such as federal immigration records.

“We have an honor system, which is effective for people who are honorable, but is also an opportunity for people who are not honorable,” Bell said. “There is a gap in the system, and we don’t have administrative folks who will be aggressive about looking into that.”

One concern, said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies for the Washington D.C.-based Center for Immigration Studies, is that California issues driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants, allowing them to automatically be registered to vote under the federal “motor-voter” laws. Since the AB60 law went into effect in 2015, 806,000 illegal immigrants have received a license.

However, a spokesperson for the California Secretary of State countered that while state law prohibits the Department of Motor Vehicles from sharing AB 60 applicant information with the public and most state agencies, including the Secretary of State’s office, AB 60 license applicants are not afforded voter registration opportunities when visiting the DMV.

There is no driver’s license required to register to vote, and there are stiff penalties for illegally voting, the spokesman said.

Even John Podesta, former chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, acknowledged in a leaked email that driver’s licenses do provide a loophole.

“On the picture ID, the one thing I have thought of in that space is that if you show up on Election Day with a driver’s license with a picture, attest that you are a citizen, you have a right to vote in federal elections,” Podesta wrote in a February 2015 email leaked by Wikileaks.​


Nowhere does anyone explain how California PREVENTS illegals from voting. As it was stated, it is an 'honor system', a 'do you Boy Scout swear that you are not trying to vote illegally? kind of thing.

Even the leftist lacky Snopes does not explain how illegal voting is PREVENTED, but only that it remains illegal. Well no shit Snopes, of course it is still illegal just like their fucking presence HERE is illegal.

Trump Is Right — Millions Of Illegals Probably Did Vote In 2016

But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high.

"We find that some noncitizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and congressional elections," wrote Jesse T. Richman, Gulshan A. Chattha, both of Old Dominion University, and David C. Earnest of George Mason University.

More specifically, they write, "Noncitizen votes likely gave Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress."

Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

Critics note that a Harvard team in 2015 had responded to the study, calling it "biased." But that report included this gem: "Further, the likely percent of noncitizen voters in recent U.S. elections is 0."

Really? That's simply preposterous, frankly, as anyone who has lived in California can attest. Leftist get-out-the-vote groups openly urge noncitizens to vote during election time, and the registration process is notoriously loose. To suggest there is no illegal voting at all is absurd.

What's appalling, as we said, is not the media's skepticism, but its denial. But why? Illegal votes shouldn't be allowed to sway U.S. elections. So why tolerate them?​
 
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Nominating Tarkanian would basically hand the seat to the Democrats.
The Trumpsters appear to be convinced that any non-swampy nutcase they get nominated will easily beat any Democrat.

This is gonna be REALLY interesting.
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I dont know that it is necessarily a win for Republicans, but given the choice between an Establishment Democrat and an Establishment Republican, it isnt really a choice.

Its like giving voters the choice between being shot in the brain or shot in the heart; what difference does it make?

At least any nonEstablishment candidate is a genuine choice for the American people and, win or lose, the voters finally have a choice and that is a win in my book.
 
Nominating Tarkanian would basically hand the seat to the Democrats.
The Trumpsters appear to be convinced that any non-swampy nutcase they get nominated will easily beat any Democrat.

This is gonna be REALLY interesting.
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I dont know that it is necessarily a win for Republicans, but given the choice between an Establishment Democrat and an Establishment Republican, it isnt really a choice.

Its like giving voters the choice between being shot in the brain or shot in the heart; what difference does it make?

At least any nonEstablishment candidate is a genuine choice for the American people and, win or lose, the voters finally have a choice and that is a win in my book.
Jim, let's say that non-establishment (full disclosure: I'm not really sure what "non-establishment" and non-"swamp" mean, but I know that Trump supporters are for it and that's good enough for the purposes of this conversation) candidate wins the GOP nomination in several races around the country and lose, including for seats that were formerly reliably red.

If that were to happen, what message do you think Trump supporters would take away?
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Jim, let's say that non-establishment (full disclosure: I'm not really sure what "non-establishment" and non-"swamp" mean, but I know that Trump supporters are for it and that's good enough for the purposes of this conversation) candidate wins the GOP nomination in several races around the country and lose, including for seats that were formerly reliably red.

"Establishment" = the Corporate Crony Network and their useful idiots that support them. From the 40,000+ K Street lobbyists that descend on our nations capitol every day to the morons that hold places for them in line to visit Congressmen (thus insulating them from real people), they are all corrupt, undermining our Republic and involved in a huge corporate sponsored conspiracy against the American people.

Does that answer your question, at least for me?

If that were to happen, what message do you think Trump supporters would take away?
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That it is possible to slay the Dragon.
 
"Establishment" = the Corporate Crony Network and their useful idiots that support them. From the 40,000+ K Street lobbyists that descend on our nations capitol every day to the morons that hold places for them in line to visit Congressmen (thus insulating them from real people), they are all corrupt, undermining our Republic and involved in a huge corporate sponsored conspiracy against the American people. Does that answer your question, at least for me?
Respectfully no, and maybe it's just me. I know that you guys see distinctions, but I'm just not there yet. What I'm still seeing is essentially a nihilism - just throw a grenade in there and that'll improve things. If the goal of these people includes actually changing the corrupt system that you describe (and I agree it's corrupt), then more power to them. I dunno, I'm still trying to get a better grip on this.
If that were to happen, what message do you think Trump supporters would take away?
That it is possible to slay the Dragon.
That would be my guess. What I fear is what I said in the thread linked at the bottom of my sig - the GOP fouls up so bigly that the Regressives can jump back in without the Democratic party going through its badly-needed Reformation.
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