nero : why narcissistic leaders always fail

[rampart]

this is an interesting telling. nero was taught by the great stoic senaca. what went wrong?

"power does not corrupt. power reveals"



"nero can kill me, but he can not harm me" thracia

 

[Polishprince]

The most narcissistic ruler America ever had was B. Hussein O. I never saw a President that had such a condenscending tone to his subjects as Barack the Uppity.

 

[Oddball]

 

[rampart]

The most narcissistic ruler America ever had was B. Hussein O. I never saw a President that had such a condenscending tone to his subjects as Barack the Uppity.

we have had several, and obama may be among them.

obama is not our current challenge, but can you think of any way that his worse instincts were mitigated by the courts/congress/staff/etc?

 

[JoeB131]

this is an interesting telling. nero was taught by the great stoic senaca. what went wrong?

"power does not corrupt. power reveals"



"nero can kill me, but he can not harm me" thracia

Nero gets a bad rap he doesn't entirely deserve.

The problem is that the entire Julio-Claudian dynasty was corrupt, not just Nero.

 

[Polishprince]

Nero gets a bad rap he doesn't entirely deserve.

The problem is that the entire Julio-Claudian dynasty was corrupt, not just Nero.

I know you like Nero because he was as Christophobic as yourself.

You wish you had the testicles that Nero had and could crucify the top Christian ministers of our time like Nero did with Peter and Paul.

 

[rampart]

Nero gets a bad rap he doesn't entirely deserve.

The problem is that the entire Julio-Claudian dynasty was corrupt, not just Nero.

this video is from "the daily stoic." i'm sure he has read seutonius.

the comparison/contrast of the article is between nero and the stoic marcus aurilius, extended to trump vs his generals - maddox, kelly .

 

[JoeB131]

I know you like Nero because he was as Christophobic as yourself.

You wish you had the testicles that Nero had and could crucify the top Christian ministers of our time like Nero did with Peter and Paul.

Actually, guy, there's very little evidence that Nero did anything to Christians, who were still a very small cult when he was Emperor.

The passages in Tacitus about his persecutions of Christians are almost certainly later Christian interpolations as are references to Jesus in Josephus' Antiquities.

 

[JoeB131]

this video is from "the daily stoic." i'm sure he has read seutonius.

the comparison/contrast of the article is between nero and the stoic marcus aurilius, extended to trump vs his generals - maddox, kelly .

Yeah, the problem with Suetonius is that he's not really a reliable source. In fact, when the Flavian Emperors took over, they continued to honor Nero. A huge statue of Nero stood outside the Coluseum until the fifth century.

 

[whitehall]

Pretty long reach comparing Trump to freaking Nero but that's all the left has left in their arsenal after an overwhelming American majority put Trump in the White House.

 

[JoeB131]

Pretty long reach comparing Trump to freaking Nero but that's all the left has left in their arsenal after an overwhelming American majority put Trump in the White House.

50.1% is not an overwealming majority.

 

[whitehall]

50.1% is not an overwealming majority.

326 electoral votes to 212 is generally considered to be a landslide victory. It's a non issue anyway in a freaking post that digs up an old Greek to try to make an obscure historical point.

 

[rampart]

Pretty long reach comparing Trump to freaking Nero but that's all the left has left in their arsenal after an overwhelming American majority put Trump in the White House.

csligula might be closer.

 

[JoeB131]

326 electoral votes to 212 is generally considered to be a landslide victory. It's a non issue anyway in a freaking post that digs up an old Greek to try to make an obscure historical point.

50.0%. Not a landslide. Half the voters wanted someone else. Probably more if you count all the ones who didn't show up at all.

And with a million votes still out there, I would not be surprised if he sinks below 50%.