Major of Palestinians expect a third intifada if peace talks fail

[toastman]

Poll: Majority of Palestinians expect third intifada if peace talks fail | JPost | Israel News

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[pbel]

Poll: Majority of Palestinians expect third intifada if peace talks fail | JPost | Israel News

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Quite the contrary, I think the plan is to get full UN recognition proving that Israel never wanted or wants peace until they get the West Bank and hope they start an Intifada to give the Israelis cover to build more settlements and slowly expel the Palestinians...

Peace is their greatest obstacle to their aims...It always has been.

 

[toastman]

Poll: Majority of Palestinians expect third intifada if peace talks fail | JPost | Israel News

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Quite the contrary, I think the plan is to get full UN recognition proving that Israel never wanted or wants peace until they get the West Bank and hope they start and Intifada to give the Israelis cover to build more settlements and slowly expel the Palestinians...

Peace is their greatest obstacle to their aims...It always has been.

Abbas is the one making demands that he knows Israel won't abide by.

 

[pbel]

Poll: Majority of Palestinians expect third intifada if peace talks fail | JPost | Israel News

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Quite the contrary, I think the plan is to get full UN recognition proving that Israel never wanted or wants peace until they get the West Bank and hope they start and Intifada to give the Israelis cover to build more settlements and slowly expel the Palestinians...

Peace is their greatest obstacle to their aims...It always has been.

Abbas is the one making demands that he knows Israel won't abide by.

Oh, I see...Abbas should kneel and only ask for what Israel will bestow...

Reminds me of my earlier thread, "I will not Bow!."

 

[JakeStarkey]

If a Third Infantida occurs, than so will a US-backed and Israeli-imposed two-state solution.

 

[Indeependent]

The second Intifada never ended; the Israelis just started implementing better security measures.

 

[toastman]

The second Intifada never ended; the Israelis just started implementing better security measures.

This is true. But the pro - Palestinians leftists claims it was Hamas who ceased suicide bombings lol !

 

[Indeependent]

The second Intifada never ended; the Israelis just started implementing better security measures.

This is true. But the pro - Palestinians leftists claims it was Hamas who ceased suicide bombings lol !

I think they had to start killing each other...The Arab Spring!

 

[rhodescholar]

Poll: Majority of Palestinians expect third intifada if peace talks fail | JPost | Israel News

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So when do the israelis get to start rioting and attacking arab muslims, the way that filth does to minorities across the arab world? I'd like to see what is happening in iraq and syria happen in every muslim country.

 

[rhodescholar]

Oh, I see...Abbas should kneel and only ask for what Israel will bestow...Reminds me of my earlier thread, "I will not Bow!."

Of course the arabs are allowed to use violence when they don't get everything they want.

No 100% of the WB? Violence.

No unlimited return of fake refugees? Violence.

No militarization of the WB? Violence.

No unlimited right to incite hatred against jews? Violence.

See how that works? Now you can put your lollipop back in.

 

[pbel]

Quite the contrary, I think the plan is to get full UN recognition proving that Israel never wanted or wants peace until they get the West Bank and hope they start an Intifada to give the Israelis cover to build more settlements and slowly expel the Palestinians...peace is their greatest obstacle to their aims...It always has been.

Arab muslim wanted peace? When was that? Was it before or after they began attacking jews 1,400 years ago?

Look Snoscholar, I could care less how the Muslims treat their wives or minorities...I want the US to get out of Israeli subservience via AIPAC in America and let them duke it out. I'm tired of seeing young Americans dying in these Israeli inspired Muslim wars!

And change your avatar, it looks like you're picking your nose!

 

[toastman]

Quite the contrary, I think the plan is to get full UN recognition proving that Israel never wanted or wants peace until they get the West Bank and hope they start an Intifada to give the Israelis cover to build more settlements and slowly expel the Palestinians...peace is their greatest obstacle to their aims...It always has been.

Arab muslim wanted peace? When was that? Was it before or after they began attacking jews 1,400 years ago?

Look Snoscholar, I could care less how the Muslims treat their wives or minorities...I want the US to get out of Israeli subservience via AIPAC in America and let them duke it out. I'm tired of seeing young Americans dying in these Israeli inspired Muslim wars!

And change your avatar, it looks like you're picking your nose!

Americans are dying because YOUR government decided to send troops to Iraq and Afghanistan. Stop trying to blame Israel for your president's choices.It's getting really old.

 

[pbel]

Arab muslim wanted peace? When was that? Was it before or after they began attacking jews 1,400 years ago?

Look Snoscholar, I could care less how the Muslims treat their wives or minorities...I want the US to get out of Israeli subservience via AIPAC in America and let them duke it out. I'm tired of seeing young Americans dying in these Israeli inspired Muslim wars!

And change your avatar, it looks like you're picking your nose!

Americans are dying because YOUR government decided to send troops to Iraq and Afghanistan. Stop trying to blame Israel for your president's choices.It's getting really old.

Did Israel Lead the US into the War on Iraq? | Jewish Voice for Peace


Did Israel Lead the US into the War on Iraq?



By Mitchell Plitnick, Director of Education and Policy, Jewish Voice for Peace; Joel Beinin, Professor of Middle East Studies at Stanford University; and Cecilie Surasky, Director of Communications, Jewish Voice for Peace

As the war on Iraq rages on with no end in sight, the scandals around its beginnings continue to proliferate. Because of these scandals, one question now being revisited is the role the state of Israel may have played in initiating the invasion of Iraq.
Israel's role is debated whenever American policy in the Middle East is discussed. This is inevitable, because Israel is America’s key ally in the region and because the Israel-Palestine conflict is the focal point of attention for virtually anyone who cares about the Mideast. Some critics of the war on Iraq maintain that the decision to go to war was made largely to advance Israeli interests. Others maintain that Israel had nothing to do with it. The evidence suggests, however, that neither of these views is accurate.

The neocons and Israeli support for the war We know that the Iraq invasion was pushed forcefully by the neo-conservatives in the Bush Administration. Many of the neocons are Jewish, though not all of them. But when it comes to US Mideast policy, there is virtually no disagreement among them in relying on a powerful Israel as a key component. This, in and of itself, would fly in the face of the notion that Israel and Israeli interests were completely removed from the decision to invade Iraq.


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[toastman]

Again, you're ignoring the fact that YOUR president ordered the troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, not the Israeli PM. You can beat around the bushes as much as you want, but it still doesn't change this fact.

I've read several articles that blamed Israel for those two wars, and frankly, I failed to see one shred of evidence that Israel was 'responsible' for them.

 

[pbel]

Again, you're ignoring the fact that YOUR president ordered the troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, not the Israeli PM. You can beat around the bushes as much as you want, but it still doesn't change this fact.

I've read several articles that blamed Israel for those two wars, and frankly, I failed to see one shred of evidence that Israel was 'responsible' for them.

A blind man cannot see.

 

[toastman]

Again, you're ignoring the fact that YOUR president ordered the troops to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, not the Israeli PM. You can beat around the bushes as much as you want, but it still doesn't change this fact.

I've read several articles that blamed Israel for those two wars, and frankly, I failed to see one shred of evidence that Israel was 'responsible' for them.

A blind man cannot see.

I have glasses, but I'm not blind

 

[toastman]

Speaking of which, I'm interested in Laser Eye Surgery.. Has anyone undergone this procedure ?

 

[pbel]

Speaking of which, I'm interested in Laser Eye Surgery.. Has anyone undergone this procedure ?

I hear its a very successful and easy surgery. Maybe then you'll see my points and wishes for a real peace...

The key is acceptance, not guns or money...share the land, not in a day or a month or a decade...Jews are marvelous workers and successful people...teach it to the Palestinians and love will follow. That's why the Israeli Palestinians are happy loyal Israelis.

 

[toastman]

Speaking of which, I'm interested in Laser Eye Surgery.. Has anyone undergone this procedure ?

I hear its a very successful and easy surgery. Maybe then you'll see my points and wishes for a real peace...

The key is acceptance, not guns or money...share the land, not in a day or a month or a decade...Jews are marvelous workers and successful people...teach it to the Palestinians and love will follow. That's why the Israeli Palestinians are happy loyal Israelis.

I know you have good intentions Pbel. And I don't need the surgery to see your points, as I've already seen them, and agree with some of them.

 

[Phoenall]

Quite the contrary, I think the plan is to get full UN recognition proving that Israel never wanted or wants peace until they get the West Bank and hope they start and Intifada to give the Israelis cover to build more settlements and slowly expel the Palestinians...

Peace is their greatest obstacle to their aims...It always has been.

Abbas is the one making demands that he knows Israel won't abide by.

Oh, I see...Abbas should kneel and only ask for what Israel will bestow...

Reminds me of my earlier thread, "I will not Bow!."

No not at all but he should be a little bit more flexible and meet half way, instead of saying this is what I want if I cant get it then I will start a fight. All Israel has to do is make a few concessions and the world would see who is being intransigent. Another intifada will be seen as hamas/fatah acting the schoolyard bully and will lose them a lot of friends.
On the matter of "right of return" the muslims need to be made aware that 1 million Jews also have the "right of return" and if they insist on disallowing it then they cant demand it for themselves.
On the matter of 1967 borders the muslims need to be made aware that there were never any 1967 borders, just a ceasefire line, and that 242 calls on all sides to negotiate their own borders. As an aside the Palestinians were never mentioned in 242 so really that don't have the right to demand those borders.

The Palestinians were offered 98% of all their demands and they turned them down, so as is the case Israel goes back to page one when it comes to negotiating peace. A new deal means that the talks start afresh, not half way through the last aborted talks.