MAGA-The Cult of Victimhood

[IM2]

I guess it's OK for whites to be victims. Because the MAGA Movement is based on victimhood. From white heterosexual males feeling feminized, to the Deep State, the entire MAGA Movement is nothing but a white grievance industry that has made household names from nobodies, and has made people rich by playing on right-wing resentment.

This is an article by David Frum. Frum is no liberal

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood​

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.
By David Frum

Again and again since Election Night 2020, Republicans have urged sympathy and accommodation for those who refused to accept the election outcome. Give them space for their feelings. What harm will it do to humor them a little longer?

Over the past half decade, we have turned much of the country’s mindscape into a group-therapy session for Trump believers. Reporters play the part of the therapist, reassuring the analyzed of a safe space for their grievances and complaints. The pro-Trump world has accepted the invitation. Even as Trump commits one constitutional, legal, and ethical abuse after another, his followers depict themselves as somehow the people truly suffering unfairness. Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

Hawley described himself as a victim of a “woke mob” after his publisher terminated his book contract because of his leadership role in propagating the falsehoods that inspired the attack. Cruz, who shoved himself to the forefront of the movement to overturn the 2020 election, has accused his critics, beginning with Biden, of “vicious, partisan rhetoric that tears our country apart.” The head of the American Conservative Union—a lobbyist married to Trump’s communications director—lamented that he and his fellow Trump supporters were being sent to a “digital Gulag.” A co-publisher of the conservative news site Human Events tweeted: “The conservative movement is about to face a level of collective discrimination by the institutions of our society not seen since Jim Crow.” The op-ed editor of the New York Post topped that analogy: “We're now going to see US sanctions—à la Iraq and Iran—applied to religious conservatives, economic leftists and others who reject the reigning corporate woke orthodoxy. Oh, you don't think there are 157 genders? There goes your access to banking!”

The central concept in modern conservatism is victimhood. Responsibility, accountability—those are standards they apply to others, never to themselves. Even as they confront their stark record of complicity and culpability, they cannot absorb it.

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[excalibur]

The Atlantic?

 

[Harry Dresden]

says the no 1 victim in this forum....

 

[MarathonMike]

I guess it's OK for whites to be victims. Because the MAGA Movement is based on victimhood. From white heterosexual males feeling feminized, to the Deep State, the entire MAGA Movement is nothing but a white grievance industry that has made household names from nobodies, and has made people rich by playing on right-wing resentment.

This is an article by David Frum. Frum is no liberal

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood​

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.
By David Frum

Again and again since Election Night 2020, Republicans have urged sympathy and accommodation for those who refused to accept the election outcome. Give them space for their feelings. What harm will it do to humor them a little longer?

Over the past half decade, we have turned much of the country’s mindscape into a group-therapy session for Trump believers. Reporters play the part of the therapist, reassuring the analyzed of a safe space for their grievances and complaints. The pro-Trump world has accepted the invitation. Even as Trump commits one constitutional, legal, and ethical abuse after another, his followers depict themselves as somehow the people truly suffering unfairness. Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

Hawley described himself as a victim of a “woke mob” after his publisher terminated his book contract because of his leadership role in propagating the falsehoods that inspired the attack. Cruz, who shoved himself to the forefront of the movement to overturn the 2020 election, has accused his critics, beginning with Biden, of “vicious, partisan rhetoric that tears our country apart.” The head of the American Conservative Union—a lobbyist married to Trump’s communications director—lamented that he and his fellow Trump supporters were being sent to a “digital Gulag.” A co-publisher of the conservative news site Human Events tweeted: “The conservative movement is about to face a level of collective discrimination by the institutions of our society not seen since Jim Crow.” The op-ed editor of the New York Post topped that analogy: “We're now going to see US sanctions—à la Iraq and Iran—applied to religious conservatives, economic leftists and others who reject the reigning corporate woke orthodoxy. Oh, you don't think there are 157 genders? There goes your access to banking!”

The central concept in modern conservatism is victimhood. Responsibility, accountability—those are standards they apply to others, never to themselves. Even as they confront their stark record of complicity and culpability, they cannot absorb it.

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

www.theatlantic.com

Hilarious. IM2 has been squealing for 10 years: I'M A VICTIM BECAUSE OF JIM CROW AND SLAVERY, GIMME REPARATIONS!!!!

 

[SeaMajor7]

I guess it's OK for whites to be victims. Because the MAGA Movement is based on victimhood. From white heterosexual males feeling feminized, to the Deep State, the entire MAGA Movement is nothing but a white grievance industry that has made household names from nobodies, and has made people rich by playing on right-wing resentment.

This is an article by David Frum. Frum is no liberal

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood​

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.
By David Frum

Again and again since Election Night 2020, Republicans have urged sympathy and accommodation for those who refused to accept the election outcome. Give them space for their feelings. What harm will it do to humor them a little longer?

Over the past half decade, we have turned much of the country’s mindscape into a group-therapy session for Trump believers. Reporters play the part of the therapist, reassuring the analyzed of a safe space for their grievances and complaints. The pro-Trump world has accepted the invitation. Even as Trump commits one constitutional, legal, and ethical abuse after another, his followers depict themselves as somehow the people truly suffering unfairness. Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

Hawley described himself as a victim of a “woke mob” after his publisher terminated his book contract because of his leadership role in propagating the falsehoods that inspired the attack. Cruz, who shoved himself to the forefront of the movement to overturn the 2020 election, has accused his critics, beginning with Biden, of “vicious, partisan rhetoric that tears our country apart.” The head of the American Conservative Union—a lobbyist married to Trump’s communications director—lamented that he and his fellow Trump supporters were being sent to a “digital Gulag.” A co-publisher of the conservative news site Human Events tweeted: “The conservative movement is about to face a level of collective discrimination by the institutions of our society not seen since Jim Crow.” The op-ed editor of the New York Post topped that analogy: “We're now going to see US sanctions—à la Iraq and Iran—applied to religious conservatives, economic leftists and others who reject the reigning corporate woke orthodoxy. Oh, you don't think there are 157 genders? There goes your access to banking!”

The central concept in modern conservatism is victimhood. Responsibility, accountability—those are standards they apply to others, never to themselves. Even as they confront their stark record of complicity and culpability, they cannot absorb it.

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

www.theatlantic.com

GASLIGHT THEATRE OVERLOAD

 

[Papageorgio]

says the no 1 victim in this forum....

Pretty ironic isn’t it?

 

[IDIOCRACY]

I guess it's OK for whites to be victims. Because the MAGA Movement is based on victimhood. From white heterosexual males feeling feminized, to the Deep State, the entire MAGA Movement is nothing but a white grievance industry that has made household names from nobodies, and has made people rich by playing on right-wing resentment.

This is an article by David Frum. Frum is no liberal

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood​

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.
By David Frum

Again and again since Election Night 2020, Republicans have urged sympathy and accommodation for those who refused to accept the election outcome. Give them space for their feelings. What harm will it do to humor them a little longer?

Over the past half decade, we have turned much of the country’s mindscape into a group-therapy session for Trump believers. Reporters play the part of the therapist, reassuring the analyzed of a safe space for their grievances and complaints. The pro-Trump world has accepted the invitation. Even as Trump commits one constitutional, legal, and ethical abuse after another, his followers depict themselves as somehow the people truly suffering unfairness. Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

Hawley described himself as a victim of a “woke mob” after his publisher terminated his book contract because of his leadership role in propagating the falsehoods that inspired the attack. Cruz, who shoved himself to the forefront of the movement to overturn the 2020 election, has accused his critics, beginning with Biden, of “vicious, partisan rhetoric that tears our country apart.” The head of the American Conservative Union—a lobbyist married to Trump’s communications director—lamented that he and his fellow Trump supporters were being sent to a “digital Gulag.” A co-publisher of the conservative news site Human Events tweeted: “The conservative movement is about to face a level of collective discrimination by the institutions of our society not seen since Jim Crow.” The op-ed editor of the New York Post topped that analogy: “We're now going to see US sanctions—à la Iraq and Iran—applied to religious conservatives, economic leftists and others who reject the reigning corporate woke orthodoxy. Oh, you don't think there are 157 genders? There goes your access to banking!”

The central concept in modern conservatism is victimhood. Responsibility, accountability—those are standards they apply to others, never to themselves. Even as they confront their stark record of complicity and culpability, they cannot absorb it.

The Conservative Cult of Victimhood

Trump was a perpetrator who thought himself a victim, and American society has indulged that same illusion among Trump supporters.

www.theatlantic.com

Neat lead into a story I didn't read.

 

[IM2]

I see the white Republicans here cannot see themselves as victims even as they whine about things that are not happening to them.

 

[Lisa558]

OMG, the irony.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Do you write for the onion, IM2?

Your stuff is hilarious.

 

[IM2]

Pretty ironic isn’t it?

There is no irony here except for you white Repubicans who can't see that you guys have been the ones playing the victim and that you guys have been the ones who have made a cottage industry out of racism. This is how things have always been. Whites tell themselves that everybody else is doing the things they are doing, and choose to ignore or deny their behavior.

 

[Lisa558]

Do you write for the onion, IM2?

Your stuff is hilarious.

IM2 thrives in black victimhood and refuses to acknowledge that much of the problems among the black underclass is due to their own bad choices and behavior.

Once I suggested that ghetto blacks would do better if they modeled themselves after a different minority group that, despite 2,000 years of horrible persecution, continues to not only be successful - but successful beyond average.

You can imagine his reaction to that. (Hint: not pretty,)

 

[Lisa558]

There is no irony here except for you white Repubicans who can't see that you guys have been the ones playing the victim and that you guys have been the ones who have made a cottage industry out of racism. This is how things have always been. Whites tell themselves that everybody else is doing the things they are doing, and choose to ignore or deny their behavior.

More irony.

When blacks stop having 75% of babies before marriage, and when they can’t afford them, more than half their problems would disappear.

Yet IM2 chooses to ignore or deny blacks’ behavior. Instead, he screams “waaaaaacism!!”

And then he starts a thread complaining about white victimhood. LOL.

 

[Papageorgio]

There is no irony here except for you white Repubicans who can't see that you guys have been the ones playing the victim and that you guys have been the ones who have made a cottage industry out of racism. This is how things have always been. Whites tell themselves that everybody else is doing the things they are doing, and choose to ignore or deny their behavior.

I’m not a Republican, I didn’t vote for Trump but they are not victims and I don’t think they see themselves as victims. I think Blacks have been treated wrongly in the past but are used by the Democratic Party to keep hate and racism alive. BTW, I believe that the Democratic Party believes blacks are inferior to others. They claim blacks aren’t smart enough to get or have ID among other things.

 

[IM2]

I won't be arguing with white fragility. MAGA and Trumpism are nothing but white victimhood. Let us understand what this so-called victim mentality is. The victim is not the person who says whites continue to practice racism, that it’s wrong, and we need to stop it. The victim is not the black person who fights for equality that whites have denied us, which has created tremendous damage that black communities face. The victim is the one who has given up, the one who tells us not to rock the boat, ignore racism, work harder, and all will be well. The victim is the person who makes up things that don’t happen, such as anti-white discrimination, or who proclaims that anti-racism means you are anti-white. The victim is the person who has all the preferences and advantages of a society but complains that somehow they are being forgotten and left out.

The victim is the type who believes that somehow another group’s fight for equality means their group loses rights. The victim is the person who thinks they are being discriminated against because the university is seventy percent white instead of seventy-five percent because it accepts people of color. The victim is the person who cries about “merit” without considering that whites, who are the majority of the population, end up with the applicants with most of the high SAT scores mainly because more of them are taking the test, not because they are inherently more intelligent. A victim whines about how whites are getting passed over based only on those test scores when the university’s stated admissions policy says that race is but one factor a university considers.

The victim is the white employee complaining that they have gotten passed over for a “quota” that does not exist, and when whites are the majority of the employees. All these things are what MAGAS do. So to those who have a problem with what I posted in the OP, GO **** YOURSELVES! Because you are not entitled to everything just because you are white, and white does not always mean the best or most qualified.

 

[Lisa558]

I won't be arguing with white fragility. MAGA and Trumpism are nothing but white victimhood. Let us understand what this so-called victim mentality is. The victim is not the person who says whites continue to practice racism, that it’s wrong, and we need to stop it. The victim is not the black person who fights for equality that whites have denied us, which has created tremendous damage that black communities face. The victim is the one who has given up, the one who tells us not to rock the boat, ignore racism, work harder, and all will be well. The victim is the person who makes up things that don’t happen, such as anti-white discrimination, or who proclaims that anti-racism means you are anti-white. The victim is the person who has all the preferences and advantages of a society but complains that somehow they are being forgotten and left out.

The victim is the type who believes that somehow another group’s fight for equality means their group loses rights. The victim is the person who thinks they are being discriminated against because the university is seventy percent white instead of seventy-five percent because it accepts people of color. The victim is the person who cries about “merit” without considering that whites, who are the majority of the population, end up with the applicants with most of the high SAT scores mainly because more of them are taking the test, not because they are inherently more intelligent. A victim whines about how whites are getting passed over based only on those test scores when the university’s stated admissions policy says that race is but one factor a university considers.

The victim is the white employee complaining that they have gotten passed over for a “quota” that does not exist, and when whites are the majority of the employees. All these things are what MAGAS do. So to those who have a problem with what I posted in the OP, GO **** YOURSELVES! Because you are not entitled to everything just because you are white, and white does not always mean the best or most qualified.

^^^ Oh, lookie here: the OP who posted with a ridiculous premise, given how he relishes in his own victimhood, is now saying he won’t argue with those who disagree with him. Instead, anyone who doesn’t submit to his warped and false view can “go **** ourselves.”

Lovely.

 

[IM2]

The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists

Bandy X. Lee, a forensic psychiatrist and president of the World Mental Health Coalition.* Lee led a group of psychiatrists, psychologists and other specialists who questioned Trump’s mental fitness for office in a book that she edited called The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President. In doing so, Lee and her colleagues strongly rejectedthe American Psychiatric Association’s modification of a 1970s-era guideline, known as the Goldwater rule, that discouraged psychiatrists from giving a professional opinion about public figures who they have not examined in person. “Whenever the Goldwater rule is mentioned, we should refer back to the Declaration of Geneva, which mandates that physicians speak up against destructive governments,” Lee says. “This declaration was created in response to the experience of Nazism.”

Scientific American asked Lee to comment on the psychology behind Trump’s destructive behavior, what drives some of his followers—and how to free people from his grip when this damaging presidency ends.

What attracts people to Trump? What is their animus or driving force?

The reasons are multiple and varied, but in my recent public-service book, Profile of a Nation, I have outlined two major emotional drives: narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis. Narcissistic symbiosis refers to the developmental wounds that make the leader-follower relationship magnetically attractive. The leader, hungry for adulation to compensate for an inner lack of self-worth, projects grandiose omnipotence—while the followers, rendered needy by societal stress or developmental injury, yearn for a parental figure. When such wounded individuals are given positions of power, they arouse similar pathology in the population that creates a “lock and key” relationship.

“Shared psychosis”—which is also called “folie à millions” [“madness for millions”] when occurring at the national level or “induced delusions”—refers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology. When a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position, the person’s symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds, heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions, paranoia and propensity for violence—even in previously healthy individuals. The treatment is removal of exposure.

The 'Shared Psychosis' of Donald Trump and His Loyalists

Forensic psychiatrist Bandy X. Lee explains the outgoing president’s pathological appeal and how to wean people from it

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[BluesLegend]

MAGA-The Cult of Victimhood​

Pretty sure it's the Dem party that's the victim...of Trump destruction and a 19% approval rating.

 

[BluesLegend]

OMG, the irony.

The irony meter almost broke the internet.

 

[BluesLegend]

We sure laugh at Democrats a lot for a 'cult of victimhood'. Mocking the defeated, humiliated Dems is quality entertainment.