Kneecapping the EPA is a many splendored, bipartisan thing

[Revere]

Americans can start manufacturing things again. Kick the Soviet style managed industrial policy to the curb before it gets rolling.

Rockefeller takes aim at EPA - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com

EPA’s climate rules started kicking in on Sunday and will continue to be phased in over the next two years for power plants, petroleum refiners and other major stationary sources. House Republicans are expected to hold hearings and force votes to stop the EPA regulations too, but prospects that any type of freeze will make it into law depends on the Democrat-led Senate and President Barack Obama’s willingness to sign off on a delay.

Administration officials have previously said they’d recommend a veto. Rockefeller said prospects for some type of anti-EPA legislation making it into law have improved with the new Senate that includes a much more narrow Democratic majority. “It’ll be very interesting,” Rockefeller said. “It’ll be easier for the bill to pass. But the question is what kind of bill.”



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[Hot Wire]

F that fascist Ass hole EPA,The GOP should just defund it.

 

[uscitizen]

Rockefeller is coal. And for those who whine about mercury in CFF bulbs then they should learn a bit about mercury pollution from coal fired power plants.

 

[Revere]

Coal powers most of the electric plants in this country.

The only alternative to coal the EPA has is poverty.

You can't even cost effectively manufacture in the USA the consumer products the EPA is holding a gun to your head to use, they are so noxious.

 

[rdean]

Screw the EPA. Republicans want to look more like "China". They will never rest until America has this kind of "success".

BUT HEY, LOOK AT THAT! FREE FOOD!

 

[uscitizen]

China is going to pay a very high price....

 

[Revere]

Does the US look like China now, before the EPA implements cap and tax?

 

[Revere]

Which one of those pictures is C02?

 

[rdean]

China is going to pay a very high price....

So are we.

Birth defects in China is skyrocketing.

From 2001, they increased more than 40%.

Odd that from 2001 to 2008, Republicans helped move millions of jobs to China. Coincidence?

China's coal-rich northern province of Shanxi, a centre of noxious emissions from large-scale coke and chemical industries, had the highest rate of defects, Xinhua news agency said in a report carried by Monday's Beijing News.
"The incidence of birth defects is related to environmental pollution," the newspaper quoted An Huanxiao, director of Shanxi's provincial family planning agency, as saying.
"The survey's statistics show that birth defects in Shanxi's eight large coal-mining regions are far above the national average," An said.

China birth defects soar due to pollution | Mail Online

Republicans fight for the strangest things.

 

[Revere]

Did C02 put those clefts in those kids palates?

 

[Revere]

Where are the Americans with cleft palates in coal burning states?

Is the US the same as China?

 

[rdean]

Where are the Americans with cleft palates in coal burning states?

Is the US the same as China?

It will be if your kind get's it's way. That's the point!

 

[Revere]

C02 causes cleft palates?

Does the environmental movement care about Malaria?

 

[Old Rocks]

Did C02 put those clefts in those kids palates?

Lordy, lordy, you just get stranger and stranger in your posts. Coal fired plants put out all kinds of poisons. Mercury, lead, arsenic, all kinds of toxic material. All known to cause congenital defects, as well as genetic damage. CO2 has nothing to do with those poisons.

 

[daveman]

If the far left gets their way, we'll all be living like this:

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Did C02 put those clefts in those kids palates?

Lordy, lordy, you just get stranger and stranger in your posts. Coal fired plants put out all kinds of poisons. Mercury, lead, arsenic, all kinds of toxic material. All known to cause congenital defects, as well as genetic damage. CO2 has nothing to do with those poisons.

So unlike Rdean cite for us the clusters in the US. You two are claiming we have the same problems as China, PROVE it.

 

[editec]

If you've ever tried to clean up a toxic mess left over from a now bankrupted industry, or if you've ever tried to prevent a toxic producing industry from polluting, you'd quickly discover that the EPA isn't exactly your best friend.

Oh the EPA is terribly good at imposing truly stupid limitations on the average man who just wants to burn his garbage in his backyard, of course.

But when it is facing a serious legal battle it's amazingly feeble.


About twenty years ago a citizens action organization I used to sit on the board of tried to get a mercury dump cleaned up.

Naturally the corporation responsible for this mess (they'd lost TONS of mercury into the air and water and land in Maine) was bankrupt.

Its assets (and theoetically it;s liabilities, too) were sold to another larger corporation.

And after multiple rulings by courts that the current owner was responsible for cleaning up the mess, there were still more and more and more court cases and the mercury is still there and still leaking.


The EPA and the courts are a joke when facing truly egregiously evil (but well heeled) corporations, folks.

And, thanks to limited liability granted to owenrs of corporations, one can pollute, then when it becomes apparent that one has created an environmental disaster, one can bankrupt one's corp[oration, and then one can retire to spend one's wealth in FLA.

I know this for a fact, folks.

I can name the owner of the corporation which polluted the DownEastern region of Maine with TONS of mercury.

He is fat and happy and nobody can do a damned thing about it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

If you've ever tried to clean up a toxic mess left over from a now bankrupted industry, or if you've ever tried to prevent a toxic producing industry from polluting, you'd quickly discover that the EPA isn't exactly your best friend.

Oh the EPA is terribly good at imposing truly stupid limitations on the average man who just wants to burn his garbage in his backyard, of course.

But when it is facing a serious legal battle it's amazingly feeble.


About twenty years ago a citizens action organization I used to sit on the board of tried to get a mercury dump cleaned up.

Naturally the corporation responsible for this mess (they'd lost TONS of mercury into the air and water and land in Maine) was bankrupt.

Its assets (and theoetically it;s liabilities, too) were sold to another larger corporation.

And after multiple rulings by courts that the current owner was responsible for cleaning up the mess, there were still more and more and more court cases and the mercury is still there and still leaking.


The EPA and the courts are a joke when facing truly egregiously evil (but well heeled) corporations, folks.

And, thanks to limited liability granted to owenrs of corporations, one can pollute, then when it becomes apparent that one has created an environmental disaster, one can bankrupt one's corp[oration, and then one can retire to spend one's wealth in FLA.

I know this for a fact, folks.

I can name the owner of the corporation which polluted the DownEastern region of Maine with TONS of mercury.

He is fat and happy and nobody can do a damned thing about it.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with President Obama using the EPA to create cap and trade when Congress refused.

 

[rdean]

If the far left gets their way, we'll all be living like this:

Wrong, that's how Republicans want the middle class to live. Oh wait, that's not cardboard? Nevermind.

 

[rdean]

China is going to pay a very high price....

So are we.

Birth defects in China is skyrocketing.

From 2001, they increased more than 40%.

Odd that from 2001 to 2008, Republicans helped move millions of jobs to China. Coincidence?

China's coal-rich northern province of Shanxi, a centre of noxious emissions from large-scale coke and chemical industries, had the highest rate of defects, Xinhua news agency said in a report carried by Monday's Beijing News.
"The incidence of birth defects is related to environmental pollution," the newspaper quoted An Huanxiao, director of Shanxi's provincial family planning agency, as saying.
"The survey's statistics show that birth defects in Shanxi's eight large coal-mining regions are far above the national average," An said.

China birth defects soar due to pollution | Mail Online

Republicans fight for the strangest things.

BEIJING (AP) -- Twenty-four children have been hospitalized with lead poisoning caused by an illegal battery factory in their east China village, state media said Thursday, in the latest in a string of battery-related poisonings in recent years.

The official Xinhua News Agency said local authorities shut down the Borui Battery Co. Ltd. and another battery factory it did not name in Anhui province's Huaining county after tests found that at least 200 local children had elevated lead levels, with 24 between the ages of nine months and 16 years requiring hospitalization.

Battery Factory Poisons 24 Children In China

The rigth wing feels if we remove the EPA, then we can "compete" with China. So I guess they're saying, "We want that success here".

If what the Chinese are doing is "winning", then I want to lose.