Justice Gorsuch's rebuke to federal district courts

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Justice Gorsuch went off on the frivolous TRO's from the lower courts. It's quite apparent the lower courts are ignoring SCOTUS in outright defiance. I'm not sure what corrective measures are available. This should be interesting, no doubt.


The granting of stay was one of several instances in which the Supreme Court has been asked to weigh in on injunctions issued by (primarily) left-wing district judges. Such orders have often come at the behest of Democrat activists seeking to sabotage the Trump administration via a judicial coup.

In addition to signing onto the majority’s Thursday decision, Gorsuch penned a concurring opinion in the case in which he ripped into the lower judiciary’s out-of-control behavior. While noting that “[l]ower court judges may sometimes disagree with this Court’s decisions … they are never free to defy them.”

Citing a related case recently before the Supreme Court (Department of Ed. v. California), the Trump appointee highlighted how the high court “granted a stay [in that case] because it found the government likely to prevail in showing that the district court lacked jurisdiction to order the government to pay grant obligations.” He wrote, “California explained that ‘suits based on “any express or implied contract with the United States”’ do not belong in district court under the Administrative Procedure Act (APA), but in the Court of Federal Claims under the Tucker Act.

“Rather than follow that direction, the district court in this case permitted a suit involving materially identical grants to proceed to final judgment under the APA,” Gorsuch wrote. “As support for its course, the district court invoked the ‘persuasive authority’ of ‘the dissent in California‘ and an earlier court of appeals decision California repudiated … That was error.”

Gorsuch went on to underscore that “the promise of our legal system that like cases are treated alike means that a lower court ought not invoke the ‘persuasive authority’ of a dissent or a repudiated court of appeals decision to reach a different conclusion on an equivalent record.” More to the point, however, he noted that the district court’s apparent rebuke of the precedent very recently established by SCOTUS in the California case is not an isolated incident among the lower courts.

“If the district court’s failure to abide by California were a one-off, perhaps it would not be worth writing to address it. But two months ago another district court tried to ‘compel compliance’ with a different ‘order that this Court ha[d] stayed,'” Gorsuch wrote. “Still another district court recently diverged from one of this Court’s decisions even though the case at hand did not differ ‘in any pertinent respect’ from the one this Court had decided … So this is now the third time in a matter of weeks this Court has had to intercede in a case ‘squarely controlled’ by one of its precedents.”



 
Justice Gorsuch went off on the frivolous TRO's from the lower courts.

Nice that he did it but rather meaningless. It has no teeth in it. Until these lower courts are made to suffer their rogue decisions, they will just continue thumbing their nose at the rule of law.
 
Congress will have to pass a turbo-impeachment bill just for chuckleheads like that.
IOW, it will take an act of Congress to stop the partisan BS that's been going on since Clinton days.
 
Nice that he did it but rather meaningless. It has no teeth in it. Until these lower courts are made to suffer their rogue decisions, they will just continue thumbing their nose at the rule of law.
I mentioned that......they can't defy SCOTUS in the long run. I don't really know 'what if'.
 
Sorry bout that,

1. Its a bit like hurding cats these lower court judges are, off the hook!
2. Unlikely they will just behave.
3. More libtard judges will rock the boat, casting doubt on America.
4. Its bad what they do, the Supreme Court should reel them in.
5. Shut down thier court is what I would do, * Your Fired! *
6. How long will they allow this indiscretion?
7. This is a day of, Kangaroo Courts

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
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I mentioned that......they can't defy SCOTUS in the long run. I don't really know 'what if'.

At the very least, forcing the SCOTUS to readdress a ruling they already ruled on because a lower court disregarded them should mean the cost of doing so should 100% all come out of their pocket plus a hefty fine.

Happen twice and your ass gets kicked to the curb.
 
At the very least, forcing the SCOTUS to readdress a ruling they already ruled on because a lower court disregarded them should mean the cost of doing so should 100% all come out of their pocket plus a hefty fine.

Happen twice and your ass gets kicked to the curb.
They are the CEO of the courts and I'm sure this has been discussed.

There was a 9-0 on something related to this....
 
Nice that he did it but rather meaningless. It has no teeth in it. Until these lower courts are made to suffer their rogue decisions, they will just continue thumbing their nose at the rule of law.
Then Trump needs to ignore district court rulings if they are obviously incorrect.
 
Then Trump needs to ignore district court rulings if they are obviously incorrect.
Incorrect or not they are legal until determined by a higher court.

Trump wouldn't do it anyway. Give the clowns an excuse.
 
Then Trump needs to ignore district court rulings if they are obviously incorrect.

I like that thinking. If a pattern of overturn can be shown for lower courts ruling against Trump, the argument can be made that they are likely to be overturned as incorrect by higher courts, therefore, to save the courts time and the people money, before Trump adheres to any questionable court ruling, the issuing court should be made to send it to at least one higher court for verification first.

And if the higher court rules against them, the lower judge eats the cost out of his own pocket.
 
I like that thinking. If a pattern of overturn can be shown for lower courts ruling against Trump, the argument can be made that they are likely to be overturned as incorrect by higher courts, therefore, to save the courts time and the people money, before Trump adheres to any questionable court ruling, the issuing court should be made to send it to at least one higher court for verification first.
And if the higher court rules against them, the lower judge eats the cost out of his own pocket.
You get my point, that leftist judges try to stop Trump's Article-2 Powers, but why should Trump follow an obviously bad ruling?
Maybe one quick solution is to appeal directly to the USSC for relief from the district court, especially as the OP says that Gorsuch wants to smack down bad district rulings.
 
You get my point, that leftist judges try to stop Trump's Article-2 Powers, but why should Trump follow an obviously bad ruling?
Maybe one quick solution is to appeal directly to the USSC for relief from the district court

I think Trump has already done the latter and may be considering the former too now under the current circumstances. I believe Trump has been laying low abiding by these lower rulings just so to deprive the Left of what they were expecting and hoping for the most.

But now that a pattern is getting established on these courts being overturned then thumbing their noses at the USSC in a purely political agenda, this just might change the dynamic enough for Trump to begin setting a higher standard of proof before going along with the courts, forcing a stay of all their decisions until they pass muster with an appellate court first.
 
It's a SCOTUS problem. They're going to have to do something. It boggs their calendar down. Gorsuch having concerns says a lot. I know this has been discussed.
I don't know what their legal response would be.
 
Here's AI view. I used it due to asking about lower courts defying Scotus orders, just about every article was about what if Trump defies lower court rulings.....lol

AI Overview

If a lower court defies the Supreme Court's direction, the Supreme Court can issue an emergency order to block the lower court's decision, overturn the lower court's ruling, and issue a summary reversal enforcing its own precedents. In extreme cases of non-compliance, while not a typical outcome, the Court or lower courts could consider sanctions or disbarment for lawyers involved and public opinion and historical pressure can also be a force for compliance, especially in the context of a president defying court orders.

Specific Actions the Supreme Court Can Take

Emergency Orders:
The Supreme Court can issue an emergency order to temporarily halt a lower court's decision from taking effect or to grant relief that the lower court denied.

Summary Reversal:
In instances where the lower court clearly ignores binding precedent, the Supreme Court can issue a summary reversal. This is a fast way to overturn a lower court's decision, often issued without full briefing or oral arguments.

Overturn and Set Precedent:
The Supreme Court can overturn the lower court's decision, and reinforce its own precedents, ensuring that lower courts understand they are bound to follow the Court's ruling.
What "Direction" Means for Lower Courts

Precedent:
When the Supreme Court issues a decision, it creates precedent that lower courts are legally obliged to follow. Lower court judges are not free to defy established Supreme Court precedent.

Interpreting Laws:
The Supreme Court's interpretations of laws and the Constitution are authoritative and set the binding standard for all lower courts.
Enforcement and Broader Implications

Reinforcing Vertical Stare Decisis:
The Supreme Court's actions serve to reinforce the principle of vertical stare decisis, a legal doctrine that requires lower courts to adhere to the decisions of higher courts.

Broader Influence:
While the Supreme Court has formal legal tools to enforce its decisions, public opinion and historical pressure can also play a role in ensuring compliance with the rule of law from all branches of government.
 
Nice that he did it but rather meaningless. It has no teeth in it. Until these lower courts are made to suffer their rogue decisions, they will just continue thumbing their nose at the rule of law.
That’s gonna require that some lower federal court judges get impeached; and the prospect of an ensuing Senate conviction remains mighty damn low.

I have not (yet) seen or read about any Supreme Court authority to sanction these miscreant lower court jurists.

But, when their orders are at odds with the prior determinations of the SCOTUS, I believe the Administration would be free to refuse to comply with the lower court’s subsequent “rulings.”

That might soon prove to be the best presently available remedy.
 
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But, when their orders are at odds with the prior determinations of the SCOTUS, I believe the Administration would be free to refuse to comply with the lower court’s subsequent “rulings.”
That will bring all kinds of negative press and, to the useful idiots, cause for the impeachment mantra.
 
That will bring all kinds of negative press and, to the useful idiots, cause for the impeachment mantra.
Yep. But it will turn out the same way. A lot of fodder for the leftwing apparatchik MSM. Theater! But not a chance in France of a Senate conviction.

But, meanwhile, the actual law and Constitution will still be getting followed.

The leftards need to be taught a lesson. And they will reap what they sow.
 
Yep. But it will turn out the same way. A lot of fodder for the leftwing apparatchik MSM. Theater! But not a chance in France of a Senate conviction.

But, meanwhile, the actual law and Constitution will still be getting followed.

The leftards need to be taught a lesson. And they will reap what they sow.
I'm sure they're trying to goad Him into defying the lower courts.
 
I'm sure they're trying to goad Him into defying the lower courts.
If the SCOTUS has already ruled, then a lower court’s contrary ruling ought to be legal nullity. Imagine having your “defense” to claims about defying a lower court being, “ah, but we are complying with the highest Court’s ruling.”

I wouldn’t be surprised if the defiance of lower courts to SCOTUS rulings get treated by the Trump Administration in exactly that way. Indeed, I encourage the President to do precisely that.
 
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