Seems a good idea, as groups you will suddenly 'police' group members. Very genius -
Jimmy Carr's solution to America's gun problem!!
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is there a 2nd Amendment in his county, giving the people the right to keep and bear arms?
1srelluc
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Blah, happiness is your own range. 
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You join a group and suddenly, you're all equally liable for the other retards in your group. You're all gonna start pulling your socks up, aren't you!! Do you think you would fail the group!!!Blah, happiness is your own range.
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Concerned American
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LOL, that's about as logical as being responsible for every careless driver who lives on your street. Stupid, eh? EXACTLY!
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You're against Jimmy Carr's idea because you all know fine well that including yourself, there's not one member of the group that wouldn't **** it up for the group. Collectively, insufficient IQ points.
We don't need this scheme in the UK because everyone is suitable 99.99999999999999999999% of the time, because they were deemed suitable at the start.
Concerned American
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In your opinion. In the US, your OPINION has nothing to do with my RIGHTS. The way it should be.
1srelluc
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I determine when MY range is hot.
TroglocratsRdumb
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It is dangerous to be defenseless in America
whitehall
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Billy Carter would have made a better president.
2aguy
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You guys can never explain this....
But...but.....gun control extremists tell us that more guns = more gun crime....then why, in Florida, did more guns = less gun crime?
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In 1980, Miami had 220 homicides; a murder rate of more than 60 per 100,000 residents. Keep in mind this was almost a decade before Florida adopted "shall issue" concealed carry, and more than 40 years before permitless carry became the law of the land in the Sunshine State.
There are likely far more legal gun owners in the city than there was back in 1980, but one thing certain: Miami is a much safer place than it was back then. As Mayor Francis Suarez recently highlighted on the Rubin Report, Miami is on pace for the fewest homicides in more than 70 years. In 2024, the city saw 27 murders. This year the count stands at 23; an almost 90% decline from the peak number of homicides, and its all happened while Florida has made the right to keep and bear arms far more accessible to its citizens.
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When Florida adopted "shall issue" concealed carry in the late 1980s, critics predicted blood in the streets and Wild West shootouts in parking lots. Things were bad enough with criminals carrying guns, they said. Just imagine how much worse it will be with Joe Schmoe packing heat.
In all fairness, violent crime (including homicides) didn't really decline all that much until the early 1990s, but "shall issue" concealed carry didn't lead to more violent crime either. And ten years after Florida adopted it's shall-issue law, the state's homicide rate had fallen from 11.4 to 6.9 per 100,000 people. That decline has continued ever since, and in 2024 the state's homicide rate was estimated at 6.5 per 100,000. By then the state not only had millions of concealed carry licensees, but countless other Floridians carrying without the need for a government-issued permission slip thanks to the permitless carry law adopted in 2023.
If more guns equals more crime, then Miami in 2025 would make the Miami of the 1980s look like Mayberry, with Crockett and Tubbs serving as the stand-ins for Sheriff Andy Taylor.
Instead, it's modern day Miami that, guns and all, has one of the lowest homicide rates of any big city in the United States. For that, Suarez credits three things that he says any city and state around the world can do
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Miami Mayor Torches Gun Control Arguments Using City's Crime Stats
Miami's crime stats challenge gun control arguments, showing safety with more legal gun owners.
bearingarms.com
2aguy
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Yeah....perhaps you should spend more time vetting the muslim men flooding your country.......you know, the ones gang raping helpless, unarmed, English women............
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I think the posters on here realise they would let their group down.
Jarlaxle
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Naah, they just realize you are nuttier than squirrel shit.
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BackAgain
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Except it’s a ridiculous notion.
I am not a gun owner. But let’s say I choose to get a license and a permit. And then I choose to buy a gun and ammo. And I train. And I practice. The other members of a gun club don’t know me. As a new gun owner, how would I be known to other fun owners, necessarily?
Anyway, let’s say the group had 99 members and take a chance on me by making me #100. Why on Earth should they be held accountable for my actions in shooting a gun anywhere sometime down the road? What’s the Constitutional basis for saying they should be?
And why should my Constitutional right to have a gun be limited to being associated with any of them?
I wouldn’t want to bear any responsibility for one of them committing a “bad” shoot, either. And my right (which shall not be infringed) can’t Constitutionally be infringed by making me join a gun club, anyway. The law would have to be vacated because it violates the 2d Amendment..
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