It Begins: NYU Researcher Claims Death Is a ‘Reversible State’.

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'People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth. And if you always believed that, then you’d never try...'

According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”

People only believe that death is irreversible because they have been conditioned to think so, and to stifle scientific progress, he claimed.


“People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth,” he said. “And if you always believed that, then you’d never try.”

Furthermore, Parnia claimed, it is helpful to understand death not as a moment at which “everything stops,” but as “basically an injury process” that can be treated.

As a result, a large part of overcoming death by means of science will be altering the public perception of death, which is currently a “social convention” that does not “conform with scientific realities.”

More concretely, Parnia claimed that Yale University’s 2019 study demonstrated adequately that pig brains can be brought back to “life” temporarily after death.

 
We are already there to a point. Many people are scientifically dead and brought back.

Is it inconceivable that at some point in the future this might be something that could be expanded a bit further out?

I recall my mom saying after her heart quit and was brought back she was sure she had died.

There are lots of things we do not understand. I imagine as time goes on we will figure out some more small portion of it.
 
Dr Frankenstein figured if it worked for Miller and Urey it might work for his monster too. :p
 
We were born too early. I have some dystopian views of how this all unfolds once immortality is reached but that's not for today, maybe I will write a sci-di book. It probably begins with a simple extension of ones life, maybe 30-40 years through advanced supplements. Eventually it will be a commoj end of life procedure where your brain will be transplanted into a new mechanical body etc.
 
'People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth. And if you always believed that, then you’d never try...'

According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”

People only believe that death is irreversible because they have been conditioned to think so, and to stifle scientific progress, he claimed.


“People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth,” he said. “And if you always believed that, then you’d never try.”

Furthermore, Parnia claimed, it is helpful to understand death not as a moment at which “everything stops,” but as “basically an injury process” that can be treated.

As a result, a large part of overcoming death by means of science will be altering the public perception of death, which is currently a “social convention” that does not “conform with scientific realities.”

More concretely, Parnia claimed that Yale University’s 2019 study demonstrated adequately that pig brains can be brought back to “life” temporarily after death.

i do think that lives can probably be extended considerably, but why?
 
'People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth. And if you always believed that, then you’d never try...'

According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”

People only believe that death is irreversible because they have been conditioned to think so, and to stifle scientific progress, he claimed.


“People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth,” he said. “And if you always believed that, then you’d never try.”

Furthermore, Parnia claimed, it is helpful to understand death not as a moment at which “everything stops,” but as “basically an injury process” that can be treated.

As a result, a large part of overcoming death by means of science will be altering the public perception of death, which is currently a “social convention” that does not “conform with scientific realities.”

More concretely, Parnia claimed that Yale University’s 2019 study demonstrated adequately that pig brains can be brought back to “life” temporarily after death.
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another dem no doubt handing out false hope goodies
 
'People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth. And if you always believed that, then you’d never try...'

According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”

People only believe that death is irreversible because they have been conditioned to think so, and to stifle scientific progress, he claimed.


“People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth,” he said. “And if you always believed that, then you’d never try.”

Furthermore, Parnia claimed, it is helpful to understand death not as a moment at which “everything stops,” but as “basically an injury process” that can be treated.

As a result, a large part of overcoming death by means of science will be altering the public perception of death, which is currently a “social convention” that does not “conform with scientific realities.”

More concretely, Parnia claimed that Yale University’s 2019 study demonstrated adequately that pig brains can be brought back to “life” temporarily after death.

Lets see them give life to a dead flower or bring the life back to a dead tooth first. Talk is great, but lets see some minor results before we start claiming we can bring back dead people. :dunno:
 
We were born too early. I have some dystopian views of how this all unfolds once immortality is reached but that's not for today, maybe I will write a sci-di book. It probably begins with a simple extension of ones life, maybe 30-40 years through advanced supplements. Eventually it will be a commoj end of life procedure where your brain will be transplanted into a new mechanical body etc.
Brain tissue breaks down just like every other part of the human body does when it gets old. A brain transplant might get you a few more years if you were dying from a bad heart, but you wouldnt be able to continuously swap the brain into new bodies and expect the brain to never age. A brain transplant certainly wouldnt help Joe Biden. :dunno:
 
'People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth. And if you always believed that, then you’d never try...'

According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”

People only believe that death is irreversible because they have been conditioned to think so, and to stifle scientific progress, he claimed.


“People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth,” he said. “And if you always believed that, then you’d never try.”

Furthermore, Parnia claimed, it is helpful to understand death not as a moment at which “everything stops,” but as “basically an injury process” that can be treated.

As a result, a large part of overcoming death by means of science will be altering the public perception of death, which is currently a “social convention” that does not “conform with scientific realities.”

More concretely, Parnia claimed that Yale University’s 2019 study demonstrated adequately that pig brains can be brought back to “life” temporarily after death.

Well, he's wrong.

When your brain turns to bacteria and enzyme pudding just a few minutes after death, it's done.

If we put a different brain in, it's not "you".
 
Who you kidding?
People are advocating euthanasia.
 
According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”
That's old news:

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There have been plenty of documented cases where a person has died and due to circumstances surrounding their death, such as them having drowned in very cold water that helped to slow down the deterioration process of the organs & tissue that begins after death, they were able to be "brought back to life" utilizing current resuscitation methods.

That's what cryonic freezing involves to my understanding. Preserving a person's mind & body at the time of death until technology can be developed to return them to life:

Cryonics is still a highly speculative field and remains controversial within the scientific community. There are significant technical and ethical challenges to overcome before it could become a viable option for extending human life1.​
 
There have been plenty of documented cases where a person has died and due to circumstances surrounding their death, such as them having drowned in very cold water that helped to slow down the deterioration process of the organs & tissue that begins after death, they were able to be "brought back to life" utilizing current resuscitation methods.
The medical definitions we have for "dead" are not absolute definitions.

Those are cases of people not actually being dead for more than a couple minutes.
 
Some a bit longer than a few minutes, here are a few cases:
Lazarus syndrome - Wikipedia
Well it isn't. None of those examples are more than a couple minutes of brain death. Weak pulses are often not detected, especially in the field, for example. And CPR can help keep some oxygenated blood in the brain.

And we know this, because we know what happens, chemically, in the brain, after just a few minutes.

After about 10 to 15 minutes, your skull is now a bowl of warm soup.

That's not a 'frequent' or 'likely ' outcome. It's the outcome 100% of the time, when oxygenated blood no longer exists within the brain.

Just as you will get a fire 100% of the time, when exposing gasoline vapors to a flame with oxygen present. It's just chemistry.

And keep in mind, what I am saying here is that, once YOU die, YOU are never coming back. Might we reanimate some of your organs? Sure. But the 'you', as contained in your brain, is not coming back.
 
'People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth. And if you always believed that, then you’d never try...'

According to Parnia, death is a “reversible state.”

People only believe that death is irreversible because they have been conditioned to think so, and to stifle scientific progress, he claimed.


“People used to think you could never go beyond the boundaries of [flying], let alone going beyond the atmosphere of the Earth,” he said. “And if you always believed that, then you’d never try.”

Furthermore, Parnia claimed, it is helpful to understand death not as a moment at which “everything stops,” but as “basically an injury process” that can be treated.

As a result, a large part of overcoming death by means of science will be altering the public perception of death, which is currently a “social convention” that does not “conform with scientific realities.”

More concretely, Parnia claimed that Yale University’s 2019 study demonstrated adequately that pig brains can be brought back to “life” temporarily after death.

Is Death a Reversible State?

The statement "Death is a reversible state" can be considered false in the context of current medical understanding, particularly regarding brain death. However, the concept of death and its reversibility can be nuanced depending on the definitions and circumstances involved.

Understanding Death

1. Types of Death:
- Clinical Death: This occurs when the heart stops beating and breathing ceases. In some cases, if immediate medical intervention is applied, such as CPR or defibrillation, clinical death can be reversed.
- Brain Death: This is defined as the irreversible loss of all brain function, including the brain stem. Once brain death is diagnosed, it is considered permanent and irreversible. The body may still exhibit some reflexive responses or be maintained on life support, but the absence of brain activity signifies true death.

2. Evolving Definitions:
- The definition of death has evolved over time. What was once considered irreversible, such as cessation of breathing, has seen advancements in medical technology that allow for revival in certain situations. This suggests that the understanding of death is not static and may change with future medical advancements.

3. Scientific Perspectives:
- Some researchers argue that death could be viewed as a process rather than a definitive state. For instance, studies have shown that certain biological functions can be revived under specific conditions, such as in animal models where brain activity was restored after a period of being declared dead. However, these findings are not applicable to human brain death as defined in clinical practice.

Conclusion

In summary, while certain aspects of death, particularly clinical death, can be reversible with timely intervention, brain death is currently understood to be irreversible. The ongoing advancements in medical science may continue to challenge and refine our definitions and understanding of death in the future.

Frankenstein was quite a sight,
Made of parts from left and right.
His bolts were tight, his hair a mess,
But he had a heart, I must confess.
In the lab he was created,
With lightning bolts, he was animated.
But poor Frank was misunderstood,
Just a big guy trying to do some good.
He roamed the streets with a clumsy gait,
People screamed and sealed their fate.
But deep inside, he had a dream,
To be accepted and part of a team.
So next time you see Frankenstein,
Don't judge him by his scary shine.
He's just a monster with a kind heart,
Looking for friendship, right from the start...

:)

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