Increase in solar almost keeping up with the increase in demand

[Old Rocks]

The increase in demand has been a worry for our grid. But right now the increase in new solar is almost keeping up with the increase in demand. Had we a sane admin, it would exceed the increase in demand, and have a cushion for further increases in demand.

MSN

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[1srelluc]

You keep beating on that drum but nobody's buying it. NG and Nuke is where it's at for reliable electricity on demand.

That said if folks want to mess with solar that's just fine but don't expect me to subsidize it for them.

 

[excalibur]

You keep beating on that drum but nobody's buying it. NG and Nuke is where it's at for reliable electricity on demand.

That said if folks want to mess with solar that's just fine but don't expect me to subsidize it for them.

China, India, Pakistan, building hundreds of coal-fired power plants.

And see:

Thread 'China’s production of natural gas and nuclear energy has grown 1.4 times faster than solar and wind combined.'

Nov 20, 2025

Because China knows how unreliable wind and solar are.

That, and all the coal-fired power plants they've been building.

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But the media’s relentless propaganda campaign about China’s solar, wind, and EV sectors is obscuring the country’s soaring use of hydrocarbons, and coal in particular. By itself, China consumes more coal than the rest of the world combined — and it will keep doing so for decades to come. As I reported in August, China is now building 227 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity. When all those coal plants are brought online, China’s...​

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[The Irish Ram]

You may want to talk to Gates about his chemtrail, sun blocking experiments...

 

[Sunsettommy]

The increase in demand has been a worry for our grid. But right now the increase in new solar is almost keeping up with the increase in demand. Had we a sane admin, it would exceed the increase in demand, and have a cushion for further increases in demand.

MSN

www.msn.com

The bullcrap goes on and on and on, an industry that needs massive tax breaks to get it moving but when the government support ends the decline of the bird choppers begins while they continue to reap their tax breaks which for Buffet was over 10 BILLION dollars in just a few years.

Since Solar is a poor investment as recent solar "tax breaks" farms have closed including the world biggest.

Give it up as you are not fooling anyone anymore.

 

[Old Rocks]

The bullcrap goes on and on and on, an industry that needs massive tax breaks to get it moving but when the government support ends the decline of the bird choppers begins while they continue to reap their tax breaks which for Buffet was over 10 BILLION dollars in just a few years.

Since Solar is a poor investment as recent solar "tax breaks" farms have closed including the world biggest.

Give it up as you are not fooling anyone anymore.

LOL

In 2025, the U.S. is expected to install approximately 43 gigawatts (GW) of new solar capacity, contributing significantly to the country's renewable energy growth.

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• First Half of 2025: The U.S. solar industry installed 18 GW of solar capacity in the first half of 2025, accounting for 56% of all new electricity-generating capacity added to the grid during that period.
  
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• Projected Total for 2025: By the end of 2025, it is projected that the U.S. will add a total of 43 GW of new solar capacity, which will further enhance the country's renewable energy infrastructure.
  
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• Utility-Scale Solar: Of the total expected installations, 32.5 GW is anticipated to come from utility-scale solar projects, indicating a strong focus on large-scale solar energy production.
  
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The growth in solar capacity reflects a broader trend towards renewable energy in the U.S., with solar energy becoming a leading source of new electricity generation. This increase is driven by various factors, including technological advancements, policy support, and a growing emphasis on clean energy solutions to combat climate change. As the U.S. continues to transition towards a more sustainable energy system, solar power is expected to play a crucial role in meeting future energy demands.

SEIA
Solar Market Insight Report Q3 2025 - SEIA

 

[Old Rocks]

China, India, Pakistan, building hundreds of coal-fired power plants.

And see:

Thread 'China’s production of natural gas and nuclear energy has grown 1.4 times faster than solar and wind combined.'

Nov 20, 2025

Because China knows how unreliable wind and solar are.

That, and all the coal-fired power plants they've been building.

...​

​

​

But the media’s relentless propaganda campaign about China’s solar, wind, and EV sectors is obscuring the country’s soaring use of hydrocarbons, and coal in particular. By itself, China consumes more coal than the rest of the world combined — and it will keep doing so for decades to come. As I reported in August, China is now building 227 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity. When all those coal plants are brought online, China’s...​

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China;

277 GW
In 2024, China installed a record 277 GW of new solar capacity, bringing the total cumulative installed capacity to 887 GW. This represents a significant increase of 45.48% year-on-year, setting a new record for solar capacity expansion in the country.

U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)+3

U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
China’s solar capacity installations grew rapidly in 2024


Electrek
China installed a record capacity of solar and wind in 2024 – in ...

 

[Old Rocks]

China, India, Pakistan, building hundreds of coal-fired power plants.

And see:

Thread 'China’s production of natural gas and nuclear energy has grown 1.4 times faster than solar and wind combined.'

Nov 20, 2025

Because China knows how unreliable wind and solar are.

That, and all the coal-fired power plants they've been building.

...​

​

​

But the media’s relentless propaganda campaign about China’s solar, wind, and EV sectors is obscuring the country’s soaring use of hydrocarbons, and coal in particular. By itself, China consumes more coal than the rest of the world combined — and it will keep doing so for decades to come. As I reported in August, China is now building 227 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity. When all those coal plants are brought online, China’s...​

• excalibur
• Replies: 6
• Forum: Current Events

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India;

24.5 GW
In 2024, India installed a record 24.5 GW of solar power capacity, marking a significant increase in renewable energy capacity. This growth is attributed to various initiatives and projects, including the PM Surya Ghar: Muft Bijli Yojana, which facilitated the installation of 7 lakh rooftop solar systems within just 10 months of its launch. The total installed renewable energy capacity in India reached 209.44 GW as of December 2024, with solar energy contributing approximately 47% to this total. The increase in solar installations reflects India's commitment to expanding its renewable energy portfolio and reducing its reliance on fossil fuels.

Press Information Bureau+4

Press Information Bureau
Year End Review 2024 of Ministry of New & Renewable Energy

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=aed0...bGFyLXBvd2VyLWNhcGFjaXR5LWluLWN5MjAyNC8&ntb=1

 

[wist43]

You keep beating on that drum but nobody's buying it. NG and Nuke is where it's at for reliable electricity on demand.

That said if folks want to mess with solar that's just fine but don't expect me to subsidize it for them.

I agree, but...

The problem is there are millions of morons out there like Old Rocks who believe they are bursting with virtue and so enlightened that they are entitled to take money and property from you by force.

And if you object?? As Doom Goblin Greta Thuneberg said, "How dare you!!!"

Now aren’t you ashamed of yourself??

 

[excalibur]

India;

LOL

Nameplate capacity is hardly actual production capacity.

Why do you think India is mining record amounts of coal? To feed their increasing number of coal-fired power plants that can produce nameplate capacity 24/7.

India to Increase Domestic Coal Production by 42% over 5 Years

India’s Ministry of Coal has set a target to increase domestic coal production by 42% over the next five years,…

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org

Coal Zoom | India to Achieve Record 1.15B Tonnes Coal Production in FY26

India’s domestic coal production reached a record high of 1,047.6 million tonnes (MT) in FY25, marking substantial growth from 716.1 MT in FY21, at compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of approximately 10% over the past 5 years.

www.coalzoom.com

Guest post: China and India account for 87% of new coal-power capacity so far in 2025 - Carbon Brief

China and India accounted for 87% of the new coal-power capacity put into operation in the first half of 2025, whereas other regions move away from coal.

www.carbonbrief.org

 

[Old Rocks]

I agree, but...

The problem is there are millions of morons out there like Old Rocks who believe they are bursting with virtue and so enlightened that they are entitled to take money and property from you by force.

And if you object?? As Doom Goblin Greta Thuneberg said, "How dare you!!!"

Now aren’t you ashamed of yourself??

Well, dumb ****, it is not I who is installing solar, it is the bean counters at the utilities. Even without subsidies, solar is still the least expensive way to generate electricity.

 

[1srelluc]

I agree, but...

The problem is there are millions of morons out there like Old Rocks who believe they are bursting with virtue and so enlightened that they are entitled to take money and property from you by force.

And if you object?? As Doom Goblin Greta Thuneberg said, "How dare you!!!"

Now aren’t you ashamed of yourself??

Nope, right proud of myself in fact.

Nobody would even care about solar and wind if those that promote and use it would pay for it themselves and not turn it into a political grift stream.

Or in states like TX that will run roughshod over landowners through eminent domain to run transmission lines across their properties so third party entities can profit.

Transmission Lines and Eminent Domain: What Property Owners Need to Know

One of the most common types of cases we handle is utility takings for transmission lines. As governments attempt to improve the electrical grid to support the transportation of wind and...

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[Oddball]

The increase in demand has been a worry for our grid. But right now the increase in new solar is almost keeping up with the increase in demand. Had we a sane admin, it would exceed the increase in demand, and have a cushion for further increases in demand.

MSN

www.msn.com

Then mandate that all the AI data centers run on solar.

 

[1srelluc]

Then mandate that all the AI data centers run on solar.

To power an average data center, it would require approximately 1,446 acres of solar panels to provide enough energy for a 100 MW data center. This estimate is based on the average capacity factor of 24.7% for utility-scale solar installations in the United States. The actual number of acres needed may vary depending on the specific data center's requirements and the efficiency of the solar panels used.
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[Oddball]

Well, dumb ****, it is not I who is installing solar, it is the bean counters at the utilities. Even without subsidies, solar is still the least expensive way to generate electricity.

If it was so inexpensive, it wouldn't need subsidies at all.

 

[1srelluc]

If it was so inexpensive, it wouldn't need subsidies at all.

You can't talk sense with the true believers. They are mostly dems that have no problems at all with taking other people's money to further their ends.

Makes me wonder if the OP home is covered in solar panels.

 

[wist43]

Nope, right proud of myself in fact.

Nobody would even care about solar and wind if those that promote and use it would pay for it themselves and not turn it into a political grift stream.

Or in states like TX that will run roughshod over landowners through eminent domain to run transmission lines across their properties so third party entities can profit.

Transmission Lines and Eminent Domain: What Property Owners Need to Know

One of the most common types of cases we handle is utility takings for transmission lines. As governments attempt to improve the electrical grid to support the transportation of wind and...

ackerman-ackerman.com

It's more than just a grift, it's deliberately working to weaken our power grid.

California is a mess. Having to import electricity and fuel... the Establishment is trying to impose artificial shortages nationally.

Shortages will justify rationing, and rationing will justify more authoritarian power for the government.

It's a tried and true tactic.

 

[ReinyDays]

To power an average data center, it would require approximately 1,446 acres of solar panels to provide enough energy for a 100 MW data center.

<mathing> That's only 20 W/m^2 ... use Chinese panels, they get better than 200 W/m^2 don't they? ... </mathing>

Reread posts #6-8 here again to see what diseases these data centers create? ...

 

[1srelluc]

<mathing> That's only 20 W/m^2 ... use Chinese panels, they get better than 200 W/m^2 don't they? ... </mathing>

Reread posts #6-8 here again to see what diseases these data centers create? ...

LOL....I suck at "mathing".....Pretty good at common sense though.

Data Centers are the devil. They have the power usage to turn cheap and plentiful electricity into expensive and spotty electricity. And for what?

I'd be lying if one morning the whole of NOtVA (data center alley) turned on their light switches and nothing happened so I could tell them "I told you so".

 

[ReinyDays]

LOL....I suck at "mathing".....Pretty good at common sense though.

Data Centers are the devil. They have the power usage to turn cheap and plentiful electricity into expensive and spotty electricity. And for what?

I'd be lying if one morning the whole of NOtVA (data center alley) turned on their light switches and nothing happened so I could tell them "I told you so".

They're also water whores ... cooling systems ... we need nukes right now and AI will compel us to build them ... human safety gets thrown out the window ...