I am running for president and I have a path to victory

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I'm running for president every 4 years, and I have a path to victory...

I'm running in the Federalist theocratic technocratic meritocracy-full merciful Madech party.

I want to only be the best on every issue so I won't take votes away from anyone; they'll take away from what's right. I will delay every decision until I have to decide but I won't obsess about running as I have an ordinary life.

My platform is to protect humanity now and into perpetuity and for people to live comfortable or at least meaningful lives. I want to do this worldwide, but I will affirm to put America first.

All I'm doing this for is to promote good.

Now the path to victory... instead of getting millions of votes, I will attempt to persuade the electoral college. 38 states have votes on the books about "Faithless electors", half of them enforce them. Donald Trump might be willing to persuade them to release those laws for me since he had alternative electors himself. If I can at least stop a winner the house might vote for me too.

If I am angry, then I'm not a candidate or in office until I've calmed down and repented. I will do my best to be civil and balanced in the middle.

Thank you and thank you for all your support and wait until I'm a Senator. Any questions?
I will pick a question, then answer it very slowly, then take another question.
 
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good luck, but i'd still vote for the giant meteor .
If you're serious about the balance between growth and destruction, I actually have a lot of information for you.
 
Shouldn't this thread be in the 2028 election forum (which probably has not been created yet).
 
If you're serious about the balance between growth and destruction, I actually have a lot of information for you.

who cares about "growth."

lets burn this sucker to the ground before it metastasizes.
 
I'm running for president every 4 years, and I have a path to victory...

I'm running in the Federalist theocratic technocratic meritocracy-full merciful Madech party.

I want to only be the best on every issue so I won't take votes away from anyone; they'll take away from what's right. I will delay every decision until I have to decide but I won't obsess about running as I have an ordinary life.

My platform is to protect humanity now and into perpetuity and for people to live comfortable or at least meaningful lives. I want to do this worldwide, but I will affirm to put America first.

All I'm doing this for is to promote good.

Now the path to victory... instead of getting millions of votes, I will attempt to persuade the electoral college. 38 states have votes on the books about "Faithless electors", half of them enforce them. Donald Trump might be willing to persuade them to release those laws for me since he had alternative electors himself. If I can at least stop a winner the house might vote for me too.

If I am angry, then I'm not a candidate or in office until I've calmed down and repented. I will do my best to be civil and balanced in the middle.

Thank you and thank you for all your support and wait until I'm a Senator. Any questions?
I will pick a question, then answer it very slowly, then take another question.
Useful Precedence for Populist Presidents

In 1800, Aaron Burr tried that, and there was a deadlock still after about 60 votes. Governor James Madison of Virginia ended it by threatening to send his state's militia into Washington if the Electoral College didn't quit their Constitutional nonsense and elect Jefferson.
 
who cares about "growth."

lets burn this sucker to the ground before it metastasizes.
Things that "metastisize," like nanotechnology and surveillance and automatic control, are worth looking at but we have to do
who cares about "growth."

lets burn this sucker to the ground before it metastasizes.
I will try to address this in a few days.
 
Useful Precedence for Populist Presidents

In 1800, Aaron Burr tried that, and there was a deadlock still after about 60 votes. Governor James Madison of Virginia ended it by threatening to send his state's militia into Washington if the Electoral College didn't quit their Constitutional nonsense and elect Jefferson.
SloJo Disease Has Even Infected Teh Sage

It was Monroe, not Madison, who shut down the shenanigans.
 
metastasize?

How hard is it to control things that are autonomous, like nanotechnology or computer control of citizens?

One brother said: "I think it can be done if the right people are in charge and they can go slow and careful and not need to maximize profits."

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Response 1
Controlling autonomous systems like nanotechnology or AI-powered systems for societal management presents significant challenges due to their complexity, potential unpredictability, and ethical implications. Here's a breakdown of why controlling such technologies is hard:

Challenges in Controlling Autonomous Nanotechnology
Scale and Monitoring

Nanotechnology operates at an incredibly small scale, making it difficult to track and monitor individual components in real time.
Self-replication (if applicable) could spiral out of control, leading to scenarios like the "grey goo" problem where nanobots multiply uncontrollably.
Complexity and Emergent Behavior

Autonomous systems may exhibit unexpected behaviors due to their complexity or interaction with the environment, which can be hard to predict or manage.
Programming Limitations

Ensuring fail-safes for nanobots to prevent malfunction or misuse is challenging, especially when they need to operate independently for extended periods.
Potential for Malicious Use

Nanotech can be weaponized by rogue actors, making centralized control difficult to enforce universally.
Challenges in Computer Control of Citizens
Data Privacy and Security

Massive data collection is required to control or monitor citizens effectively, which creates vulnerabilities for data breaches or misuse.
Resistance and Social Pushback

People are unlikely to accept invasive controls without resistance, leading to social and political unrest.
Ethical and Legal Constraints

Systems that attempt to control behavior, like brain chip implants or surveillance AI, face significant legal and moral opposition.
System Vulnerability

Centralized systems are susceptible to hacking, sabotage, or technical failures that could cause widespread disruption or loss of control.
Unintended Consequences

Algorithms used to manage citizens might develop biases or make decisions that exacerbate inequality, spark unrest, or violate rights.
Possible Solutions to Enhance Control
Robust Regulation: Establish global governance for autonomous technologies, ensuring ethical use and controlled deployment.
Built-in Fail-Safes: Design systems with hard-coded limits and kill-switch mechanisms to prevent unintended behavior.
Transparency and Oversight: Make the inner workings of such technologies transparent to experts and accountable to international bodies.
Distributed Control Models: Avoid centralized control by spreading decision-making across multiple secure nodes, reducing vulnerability to failures.
Why It's Still a Risk
The complexity and speed of autonomous systems mean that any failure or misuse can scale rapidly, potentially beyond human intervention. Additionally, the trade-offs between efficiency and control mean there's always a tension between empowering these systems and keeping them in check.

Controlling autonomous systems requires balancing innovation with responsibility, and this balance will likely be a defining challenge of the 21st century.







Response 2

Controlling autonomous systems, whether they are nanotechnology or AI-driven systems for managing citizens, is extremely challenging due to their complexity and potential for unintended consequences. The difficulty depends on several factors, such as the system's design, oversight mechanisms, and the ethical and societal framework in place.

Challenges in Controlling Autonomous Systems:
Complexity and Unpredictability

Nanotechnology: Nanobots could act unpredictably due to their scale and interactions with the environment. Programming precise behaviors at such a small scale is inherently difficult, and even small errors can lead to catastrophic consequences.
Citizen Control: Autonomous systems managing populations—like AI-based governance or surveillance—might overreach or misinterpret human behavior, leading to ethical and societal issues.
Lack of Transparency

Many autonomous systems function as "black boxes," meaning their decision-making processes can be opaque even to their creators. This makes oversight and corrections challenging.
Ethical Concerns

Controlling citizens with autonomous systems raises concerns about privacy, free will, and human rights. Abuse of such systems is a significant risk.
Hacking and Sabotage

Autonomous systems are vulnerable to cyberattacks. If compromised, they could be turned against their intended purpose, leading to massive consequences.
Runaway Effects

For nanotechnology, "grey goo" scenarios (where self-replicating nanobots consume all matter) are an extreme example of the potential for loss of control.
How Control Can Be Maintained:
Strong Regulations and Oversight: International and local governance frameworks to monitor development and deployment.
Fail-safes: Built-in mechanisms to deactivate systems in case of malfunction or misuse.
Transparency: Open algorithms and decision-making processes to ensure accountability.
Ethical Design Principles: Embedding human-centered values and constraints into these systems.
What kind of autonomous systems or control methods do you find most intriguing or concerning?
 
metastasize?

How hard is it to control things that are autonomous, like nanotechnology or computer control of citizens?

One brother said: "I think it can be done if the right people are in charge and they can go slow and careful and not need to maximize profits."

Chat GPT said:

You’re giving feedback on a new version of ChatGPT.
Which response do you prefer? Responses may take a moment to load.
ChatGPT
Response 1
Controlling autonomous systems like nanotechnology or AI-powered systems for societal management presents significant challenges due to their complexity, potential unpredictability, and ethical implications. Here's a breakdown of why controlling such technologies is hard:

Challenges in Controlling Autonomous Nanotechnology
Scale and Monitoring

Nanotechnology operates at an incredibly small scale, making it difficult to track and monitor individual components in real time.
Self-replication (if applicable) could spiral out of control, leading to scenarios like the "grey goo" problem where nanobots multiply uncontrollably.
Complexity and Emergent Behavior

Autonomous systems may exhibit unexpected behaviors due to their complexity or interaction with the environment, which can be hard to predict or manage.
Programming Limitations

Ensuring fail-safes for nanobots to prevent malfunction or misuse is challenging, especially when they need to operate independently for extended periods.
Potential for Malicious Use

Nanotech can be weaponized by rogue actors, making centralized control difficult to enforce universally.
Challenges in Computer Control of Citizens
Data Privacy and Security

Massive data collection is required to control or monitor citizens effectively, which creates vulnerabilities for data breaches or misuse.
Resistance and Social Pushback

People are unlikely to accept invasive controls without resistance, leading to social and political unrest.
Ethical and Legal Constraints

Systems that attempt to control behavior, like brain chip implants or surveillance AI, face significant legal and moral opposition.
System Vulnerability

Centralized systems are susceptible to hacking, sabotage, or technical failures that could cause widespread disruption or loss of control.
Unintended Consequences

Algorithms used to manage citizens might develop biases or make decisions that exacerbate inequality, spark unrest, or violate rights.
Possible Solutions to Enhance Control
Robust Regulation: Establish global governance for autonomous technologies, ensuring ethical use and controlled deployment.
Built-in Fail-Safes: Design systems with hard-coded limits and kill-switch mechanisms to prevent unintended behavior.
Transparency and Oversight: Make the inner workings of such technologies transparent to experts and accountable to international bodies.
Distributed Control Models: Avoid centralized control by spreading decision-making across multiple secure nodes, reducing vulnerability to failures.
Why It's Still a Risk
The complexity and speed of autonomous systems mean that any failure or misuse can scale rapidly, potentially beyond human intervention. Additionally, the trade-offs between efficiency and control mean there's always a tension between empowering these systems and keeping them in check.

Controlling autonomous systems requires balancing innovation with responsibility, and this balance will likely be a defining challenge of the 21st century.







Response 2

Controlling autonomous systems, whether they are nanotechnology or AI-driven systems for managing citizens, is extremely challenging due to their complexity and potential for unintended consequences. The difficulty depends on several factors, such as the system's design, oversight mechanisms, and the ethical and societal framework in place.

Challenges in Controlling Autonomous Systems:
Complexity and Unpredictability

Nanotechnology: Nanobots could act unpredictably due to their scale and interactions with the environment. Programming precise behaviors at such a small scale is inherently difficult, and even small errors can lead to catastrophic consequences.
Citizen Control: Autonomous systems managing populations—like AI-based governance or surveillance—might overreach or misinterpret human behavior, leading to ethical and societal issues.
Lack of Transparency

Many autonomous systems function as "black boxes," meaning their decision-making processes can be opaque even to their creators. This makes oversight and corrections challenging.
Ethical Concerns

Controlling citizens with autonomous systems raises concerns about privacy, free will, and human rights. Abuse of such systems is a significant risk.
Hacking and Sabotage

Autonomous systems are vulnerable to cyberattacks. If compromised, they could be turned against their intended purpose, leading to massive consequences.
Runaway Effects

For nanotechnology, "grey goo" scenarios (where self-replicating nanobots consume all matter) are an extreme example of the potential for loss of control.
How Control Can Be Maintained:
Strong Regulations and Oversight: International and local governance frameworks to monitor development and deployment.
Fail-safes: Built-in mechanisms to deactivate systems in case of malfunction or misuse.
Transparency: Open algorithms and decision-making processes to ensure accountability.
Ethical Design Principles: Embedding human-centered values and constraints into these systems.
What kind of autonomous systems or control methods do you find most intriguing or concerning?
Nattering in the Nirvana of Negativism

This is a well-hidden sign of the jealousy of the creative by narrow-minded conformists.
 
Nattering in the Nirvana of Negativism

This is a well-hidden sign of the jealousy of the creative by narrow-minded conformists.
I couldn't follow you.

Could you please tell what you mean and whether my post about metastasizing was good or not?
 
Why?
A catatonic person can never react ---- unless you are being channeled by someone like Horsey Horse who tragically always gets things wrong .

Other brands available .
:cool:
used to be "catatonic." Now "catatomic." And I'll try to pass a law before election day that people can vote for handles/usernames.
 
I couldn't follow you.

Could you please tell what you mean and whether my post about metastasizing was good or not?
Those Who Can, Do. Those Who Can't, Teach. Those Who Can't Teach, Preach.

GreenHeads, who imagine that they are legitimate scientists, are educated eunuchs who can't invent anything. Their jealousy of those who can is expressed by scare-stories about the consequences of the inventions of the last 300 years. Their ideology is not about ideas; it is an expression of a petty and bitter emotion.
 
Those Who Can, Do. Those Who Can't, Teach. Those Who Can't Teach, Preach.

GreenHeads, who imagine that they are legitimate scientists, are educated eunuchs who can't invent anything. Their jealousy of those who can is expressed by scare-stories about the consequences of the inventions of the last 300 years. Their ideology is not about ideas; it is an expression of a petty and bitter emotion.
I'm sorry I am a nearly fired substitute teacher but I have lost some respect for you with that last post. Feel free to continue though.
 
Sharing some campaign ideas:

There would be smart cameras that only AI could watch until there was or was about to be a crime. This would ensure privacy about anything except criminal behavior which deserves prosecution.
So only AI could monitor the cameras ensuring everyone’s privacy until a crime was about to, was being or had been committed and then it provides the information to the authorities.
Note: This was invented already in real life by simplisafe. But it could be all over the place and it could detect activity to predict crimes sooner and more accurately.

Guns would be attached to a network so that a gun owner could never shoot an innocent person. All people would be monitored, with the cameras mentioned before, and that would make it impossible.
If a person had an old gun, a person with a new gun might be sent after them.
This would lead to getting rid of almost all old guns, though some old guns would be salvaged.
This gun control would be resisted by many, and the steps would have to be carefully planned.

Also, for computer backup being so expensive, some commonly used files would have to be in a few places and downloaded frequently.
 

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