Zone1 How is Mary being seen by Protestants?

is she nothing special?

Did Luther ever comment on her?

I think she should be special somehow.
Clearly, she was special, as we all are.

But she was merely human like us as there is no reason to pray to her.
 
I'm not Protestant, but I don't part to the dead. Jesus taught His followers to pray to the Father, in His Name
 
the opening scene of the 1st century events begins with the contrast of who is deemed exemplars by the heavens at the expense of the false commandments of judaism and their lack of fear for both that religion and who would rule with its use, moses.
 
there is no reason to pray to her.
The only possible reason to keep repeating that lie after being corrected numerous times is that you are insecure.
 
The only possible reason to keep repeating that lie after being corrected numerous times is that you are insecure.

Record-breaking donkey stands at an enormous 167cm tall​

A pair of donkeys at a sanctuary in Lincolnshire have been awarded spots in the 2026 Guinness Book of World Records.

Radcliffe Donkey Sanctuary resident Dynamic Derrick (aka Derrick) measured 167 cm (5 ft 5 in), verified on 24 February. His stablemate, Bambou, was confirmed to have the longest ears on a living donkey at 35cm (1ft 1in) on the same date.

The sanctuary, based in Huttoft, said their world record certificates could be viewed at their gift shop.

"Our boys have done it," they added.".."……………………"……………You are taller than that aren’t you Ding… You should definately apply to the Guinness book of records… Maybe your ears are longer too but you certainly don’t use them to “hear anything good for you with” Sorry Ding but I just couldn’t resist poking at you for all your inane posts all over the place over the years and one sentence answers that have nothing to do with anything..
 

Record-breaking donkey stands at an enormous 167cm tall​

A pair of donkeys at a sanctuary in Lincolnshire have been awarded spots in the 2026 Guinness Book of World Records.

Radcliffe Donkey Sanctuary resident Dynamic Derrick (aka Derrick) measured 167 cm (5 ft 5 in), verified on 24 February. His stablemate, Bambou, was confirmed to have the longest ears on a living donkey at 35cm (1ft 1in) on the same date.

The sanctuary, based in Huttoft, said their world record certificates could be viewed at their gift shop.

"Our boys have done it," they added.".."……………………"……………You are taller than that aren’t you Ding… You should definately apply to the Guinness book of records… Maybe your ears are longer too but you certainly don’t use them to “hear anything good for you with” Sorry Ding but I just couldn’t resist poking at you for all your inane posts all over the place over the years and one sentence answers that have nothing to do with anything..
That you need to make it personal tells me are insecure about your beliefs, as well you should be. Your people have forgotten God. Attacking Christianity won't solve that problem.
 
It might also be interesting to ask how the Messiah sees her.

Did He even consider Mary to be His mother? In the only 5 times that scripture mentions the Messiah's comments regarding Mary, He never once refers to her as mother.

There are only 3 times mentioned where the Messiah spoke to her. And He seemed to be a bit perturbed with her 2 of those times. The 3rd time He merely told her to look at her son.

Also, He only spoke 2 times with regard to what someone said about her and again His response couldn't be considered very flattering. There never seemed to be any warmth shown between them.
 
It might also be interesting to ask how the Messiah sees her.

Did He even consider Mary to be His mother? In the only 5 times that scripture mentions the Messiah's comments regarding Mary, He never once refers to her as mother.

There are only 3 times mentioned where the Messiah spoke to her. And He seemed to be a bit perturbed with her 2 of those times. The 3rd time He merely told her to look at her son.

Also, He only spoke 2 times with regard to what someone said about her and again His response couldn't be considered very flattering. There never seemed to be any warmth shown between them.
Jesus entrusted John to care for his mother, Mary, from the cross, saying, "Woman, behold your son!" and then to John, "Behold your mother!"
 
It might also be interesting to ask how the Messiah sees her.

Did He even consider Mary to be His mother? In the only 5 times that scripture mentions the Messiah's comments regarding Mary, He never once refers to her as mother.

There are only 3 times mentioned where the Messiah spoke to her. And He seemed to be a bit perturbed with her 2 of those times. The 3rd time He merely told her to look at her son.

Also, He only spoke 2 times with regard to what someone said about her and again His response couldn't be considered very flattering. There never seemed to be any warmth shown between them.
and what about Joseph?
 
How is Mary seen by Muslims?

Sanija Ameti, a Swiss Muslime used a picture of of Mary and child for shooting practice and put it online.

What do you think of it?

Only few Swiss thought it a good idea ….
 
The only possible reason to keep repeating that lie after being corrected numerous times is that you are insecure.
Repeat a lie? Where in the Bible did anyone pray to Mary?

Where in the Bible are we instructed to pray to anyone but God himself?

Try again.
 
How is Mary seen by Muslims?

Sanija Ameti, a Swiss Muslime used a picture of of Mary and child for shooting practice and put it online.

What do you think of it?

Only few Swiss thought it a good idea ….
That is because Islam teaches that anyone who rejects Mo and his teachings is better off dead.

And to justify killing you, all you need to do is offend them in some small way.
 
This is what praying to Mary over the years has done to the Catholic church. Now they welcome a South American god that appears to be a pregnant woman being worshipped in the Vatican itself.


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Can anyone here picture the 12 disciples kneeling before "Pachamama?"

No
 
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That is because Islam teaches that anyone who rejects Mo and his teachings is better off dead.

And to justify killing you, all you need to do is offend them in some small way.
I think Ameti offended all Swiss Catholics and more …..
 
Jesus entrusted John to care for his mother, Mary, from the cross, saying, "Woman, behold your son!" and then to John, "Behold your mother!"
The verse doesn't identify the disciple, nor does it say anything about the Messiah entrusting, nor does He call Mary His mother, even though He knows the word since He tells the disciple to look at his mother.
 
Repeat a lie? Where in the Bible did anyone pray to Mary?

Where in the Bible are we instructed to pray to anyone but God himself?

Try again.
It isn't prayer to Mary, it is asking Mary to pray to God, in addition to oneself, for you....like asking members of your church, to pray for you.

The Catholic Hail Mary prayer, is simply repeating BIBLE VERSES....including being called the Mother of God, and saying that All generations shall call me Blessed, and including her being Full of Grace etc....

“Hail Mary, full of grace,

the Lord is with thee.

Blessed art thou amongst women,

and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God,

pray for us sinners,

now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.”


Luke 1

26And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, called Nazareth,

27To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

28And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.

30And the angel said to her: Fear not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

31Behold thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and shalt bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name Jesus.

32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the most High; and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of David his father; and he shall reign in the house of Jacob for ever.

33And of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34And Mary said to the angel: How shall this be done, because I know not man?

35And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

36And behold thy cousin Elizabeth, she also hath conceived a son in her old age; and this is the sixth month with her that is called barren:

37Because no word shall be impossible with God.

38And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

39And Mary rising up in those days, went into the hill country with haste into a city of Juda.

40And she entered into the house of Zachary, and saluted Elizabeth.

41And it came to pass, that when Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the infant leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

42And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

43And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

44For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy.


45And blessed art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord.

46And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord.

47And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

48Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

49Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name.

50And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him.

51He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart.

52He hath put down the mighty from their seat, and hath exalted the humble.

53He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.

54He hath received Israel his servant, being mindful of his mercy:

55As he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his seed for ever.

56And Mary abode with her about three months; and she returned to her own house.
 
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The verse doesn't identify the disciple, nor does it say anything about the Messiah entrusting, nor does He call Mary His mother, even though He knows the word since He tells the disciple to look at his mother.
"The disciple whom He loved" is universally understood
 

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