"History didn't start on 7th Oct." - It didn't? What was the Arab excuse for violence before Zionism?

[rylah]

We hear this talking point now repeated in unison, "HISTORY DIDN"T START ON 7TH OCT."

"Free Palestine" uses that to shift responsibility for violence against Israelis,
not only for being murdered that day, but any other day in the past,
and the entire conflict, i.e. "the Jews made them do that"...
This bears a simple question -

What was the Arab excuse for violence before Zionism?

Although less talked about because of the magnitude of the Holocaust,
it was the plight of the Jews in the Levant, following Arab pogroms
throughout the Caliphate, that initiate the Zionist organization.

For example -

Damascus affair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

According to Hasia R. Diner, "For the Jews, the Damascus affair launched modern Jewish politics on an international scale, and for American Jews it represented their first effort at creating a distinctive political agenda. Just as the United States had used this affair to proclaim its presence on the global scale, so too did American Jews, in their newspapers and at mass meetings, announce to their coreligionists in France and England that they too ought to be thought of players in global Jewish diplomacy."[23]

 

[rylah]

Example No.2 -

Report from Safed about the Arab massacres of 1834:

"Now I have come to announce the large losses and afflictions that have been created in Israel in four countries, ie Jerusalem,and Hebron and the Upper Galilee, namely Safed. And the lower Galilee, namely the city of Tabriya. By the hands of the plunderers and looters that rose in the country. And they come only upon the Jews...

On Sunday, eight days in the month of Sivan, the looters, inhabitants of the villages joined with the inhabitants of the cities. They had weapons of war and shields and fell upon all the Jews and stripped their clothes from men and women. They expelled them naked from the city, and plundered all their property...

The remnants were coerced and raped whether men or women. Tore all the Torah scrolls, and their talit and tefilin and the city was abandoned... This was so for 33 days, so was done in the city of Safed, so was done in other towns."

Periodicals of people of Israel in Eretz Israel - Menachem Mendel ben- Aaharon 1800-1873

 

[rylah]

Fact - No Zionist ever shot a bullet before the Arab pogroms

 

[rylah]

Baba Sali refused consolidation - Rabbi David Abuhatzira HY"D

In 1919 Mulai Mahammad ordered a toll of execution on the Jewish community.
As Rabbi David Abuhatzira HY"D, one of the community leaders, and brother of Baba Sali,
pleaded to spare the other Jews in the community, Mulai "agreed" instead to strap Rabbi David to a cannon.

 

[luiza]

Panicking now that the Freedom Fighters have won the sympathy battle .
Israel should not have called that Stand Down Order .
They are paying a terrible price for that False Flag .

 

[surada]

Fact - No Zionist ever shot a bullet before the Arab pogroms

Before Zionism Palestine was a sleepy, apolitical backwater where each group governed themselves... Muslims were the majority followed by Christians and a tiny minority of Jews who had never left. They spoke Arabic and were part of the culture.

The low class Jews from the Eastern European shetls were brutal socialists... impoverished and ignorant.

 

[Dalia]

It's in their gene and moreover all leftists excuse their horror every time, we have the proof here at the forum with all the HAMAS lovers, and there are many of them.

 

[José]

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MY LITTLE BABY SON, RYLAH​

Damascus affair - Wikipedia

Report from Safed about the Arab massacres of 1834:

In 1910, Jews in Morocco pleaded for international help because of the oppression they faced.Unequal and treated unjustly.
________________________________________________________________________________________________

In other words:

The palestinians are paying the price for an episode of bigotry that HAPPENED IN DAMASCUS, MORROCO, SAUDI ARABIA, bigotry that didn't even happen in the territory of their present-day homeland.

This is the crucial dilemma Zionism faces when trying to legitimize the dispossession of the arab people of Palestine:

Zionists have to deal with the inconvenient fact that the history of the relationship between the natives of Palestine in the last 1500 years is OVERWHELMINGLY PEACEFUL.

They have a hard time finding episodes of bigotry that happened IN THE TERRITORY OF THE BRITISH MANDATE in the last 1000 years so that they can "justify" the racial supremacism of the jewish racial dictatorship.

So they present the rare episodes of bigotry that happened in Algeria, Morroco, Iraqi, etc... since the year 600 and blame them on the native people of Palestine.

They also completely distort periods of revolutions, wars, etc... in which the innevitable breakdown of the social order led to widespread looting NOT ONLY OF JEWISH BUSINESSES AND HOMES but also of property that belonged to Christians and Muslims in order to present those episodes as hatred towards the Jews.

Example:

The Peasant's Revolt of 1834

Virtually every Muslim, Jewish and Christian-owned shop was raided and damaged.

Peasants' revolt in Palestine - Wikipedia

Notice the cunning, dishonest way in which the ethnocratic state manipulates the history of the region that's being colonized in order to reverse the roles and present the native population as the villains, in order to say "the natives had it coming, they are now being dispossessed and herded into ethnic enclaves due to the misbehavior NOT EVEN OF THEIR ANCESTORS, but the misbehavior of anyone who spoke their language in a vast territory over the last 1500 years".

 

[José]

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MY LITTLE BABY SON, RYLAH​

Fact - No Zionist ever shot a bullet before the Arab pogroms

In 1919 Mulai Muhammed ordered a toll of execution on the Jewish community,
as Rabbi David Abuhatzira HY"D, one of the community leaders, and brother of Baba Sali,
pleaded to spare the other Jews in the community, Mulai "agreed" instead to strap Rabbi David to a cannon.
________________________________________________________________________________________________

Exactly what I said:

Blaming Palestinians for something that happened in Morroco, a distant land tens of miles away from Palestine.

This is the standard practice of Zionist propaganda:

Blaming the native arab population of Palestine for ANYTHING that happened in this enormous landmass during the last 1400 years:

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Before Zionism Palestine was a sleepy, apolitical backwater where each group governed themselves... Muslims were the majority followed by Christians and a tiny minority of Jews who had never left. They spoke Arabic and were part of the culture.

The low class Jews from the Eastern European shetls were brutal socialists... impoverished and ignorant.

And they kicked Arab ass ever since.

 

[rylah]

Panicking now that the Freedom Fighters have won the sympathy battle .
Israel should not have called that Stand Down Order .
They are paying a terrible price for that False Flag .

Is that denial AND a threat in the same post?


"Free Palestine" is rather desperate to encourage Hamas and intimidate other countries
with demonstrating "street power", but the majority is with Israel more than ever.

Why? Because people see the "Free Palestine" mobs in their countries...

Now, you didn't answer the question -
what was the excuse for Arab violence
against the local Jewish community, before Zionism?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MY LITTLE BABY SON, RYLAH​

Damascus affair - Wikipedia

Report from Safed about the Arab massacres of 1834:

In 1910, Jews in Morocco pleaded for international help because of the oppression they faced.Unequal and treated unjustly.
________________________________________________________________________________________________

In other words:

The palestinians are paying the price for an episode of bigotry that HAPPENED IN DAMASCUS, MORROCO, SAUDI ARABIA, bigotry that didn't even happen in the territory of their present-day homeland.

This is the crucial dilemma Zionism faces when trying to legitimize the dispossession of guetification of the arab people of Palestine:

Zionists have to deal with the inconvenient fact that the history of the relationship between the natives of Palestine in the last 1500 years is OVERWHELMINGLY PEACEFUL.

They have a hard time finding episodes of bigotry that happened IN THE TERRITORY OF THE BRITISH MANDATE in the last 1000 years so that they can "justify" the racial supremacism of the jewish racial dictatorship.

So they present the rare episodes of bigotry that happened in Algeria, Morroco, Iraqi, etc... since the year 600 and blame them on the native people of Palestine.

They also completely distort periods of revolutions, wars, etc... in which the innevitable breakdown of the social order led to widespread looting NOT ONLY OF JEWISH BUSINESSES AND HOMES but also of property that belonged to Christians and Muslims in order to present those episodes as hatred towards the Jews.

Example:

The Peasant's Revolt of 1834

Virtually every Muslim, Jewish and Christian-owned shop was raided and damaged.

Peasants' revolt in Palestine - Wikipedia

Notice the cunning, dishonest way in which the the ethnocratic state manipulates the history of the region that's being colonized in order to reverse the roles and present the native population as the villains, in order to say "the natives had it coming, they are now being dispossessed and herded into ethnic enclaves due to the misbehavior NOT EVEN OF THEIR ANCESTORS, but the misbehavior of anyone who spoke their language in a vast territory over the last 1500 years".

The palestinians are paying the price for an episode of bigotry that HAPPENED IN DAMASCUS, MORROCO, SAUDI ARABIA

They're paying a price for not forming their own government before 1947.
They're paying a price for not accepting land for peace recently.
Mostly they're paying a price for being whiney losers.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Toddsterpatriot
They're paying a price for not forming their own government before 1947.
They're paying a price for not accepting land for peace recently.
Mostly they're paying a price for being whiney losers.

Toddster is light-years ahead of rylah in terms of honesty and moral integrity because, at least, he's blaming palestinians for things they actually did.

 

[rylah]

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MY LITTLE BABY SON, RYLAH​

Damascus affair - Wikipedia

Report from Safed about the Arab massacres of 1834:

In 1910, Jews in Morocco pleaded for international help because of the oppression they faced.Unequal and treated unjustly.
________________________________________________________________________________________________

In other words:

The palestinians are paying the price for an episode of bigotry that HAPPENED IN DAMASCUS, MORROCO, SAUDI ARABIA, bigotry that didn't even happen in the territory of their present-day homeland.

This is the crucial dilemma Zionism faces when trying to legitimize the dispossession of the arab people of Palestine:

Zionists have to deal with the inconvenient fact that the history of the relationship between the natives of Palestine in the last 1500 years is OVERWHELMINGLY PEACEFUL.

They have a hard time finding episodes of bigotry that happened IN THE TERRITORY OF THE BRITISH MANDATE in the last 1000 years so that they can "justify" the racial supremacism of the jewish racial dictatorship.

So they present the rare episodes of bigotry that happened in Algeria, Morroco, Iraqi, etc... since the year 600 and blame them on the native people of Palestine.

They also completely distort periods of revolutions, wars, etc... in which the innevitable breakdown of the social order led to widespread looting NOT ONLY OF JEWISH BUSINESSES AND HOMES but also of property that belonged to Christians and Muslims in order to present those episodes as hatred towards the Jews.

Example:

The Peasant's Revolt of 1834

Virtually every Muslim, Jewish and Christian-owned shop was raided and damaged.

Peasants' revolt in Palestine - Wikipedia

Notice the cunning, dishonest way in which the the ethnocratic state manipulates the history of the region that's being colonized in order to reverse the roles and present the native population as the villains, in order to say "the natives had it coming, they are now being dispossessed and herded into ethnic enclaves due to the misbehavior NOT EVEN OF THEIR ANCESTORS, but the misbehavior of anyone who spoke their language in a vast territory over the last 1500 years".

Can I sum up all that verbosity with - "it's a Jewish conspiracy" "No big deal"?

Helps understand what "Free Palestine" means by "mostly peaceful".

Because, the Jihadists didn't spare Christians...

so Jews shouldn't feel special

with their treatment by the

religion of BEEEAZE

 

[rylah]

ORIGINALLY POSTED BY MY LITTLE BABY SON, RYLAH​

Fact - No Zionist ever shot a bullet before the Arab pogroms

In 1919 Mulai Muhammed ordered a toll of execution on the Jewish community,
as Rabbi David Abuhatzira HY"D, one of the community leaders, and brother of Baba Sali,
pleaded to spare the other Jews in the community, Mulai "agreed" instead to strap Rabbi David to a cannon.
________________________________________________________________________________________________

Exactly what I said:

Blaming Palestinians for something that happened in Morroco, a distant land tens of miles away from Palestine.

This is the standard practice of Zionist propaganda:

Blaming the native arab population of Palestine for ANYTHING that happened in this enormous landmass during the last 1400 years:

The "native Arab population" comprises large amounts of migrants from these Arab colonies.
Of course, "Free Palestine" sees no big deal in systemic violence against minorities overall,
when it serves exclujsive Arab domination over the entire Middle East and North Africa.

But what did the Arab imperialists gain from violence
against the Jewish communities, before Zionism?

 

[rylah]

Before Zionism Palestine was a sleepy, apolitical backwater where each group governed themselves... Muslims were the majority followed by Christians and a tiny minority of Jews who had never left. They spoke Arabic and were part of the culture.

The low class Jews from the Eastern European shetls were brutal socialists... impoverished and ignorant.

"Sleepy backwater"... except for an Arab pogrom here and there.

Regarding the backwater, that we agree, the land
was intentionally mistreated and neglected by
the hordes of Arab imperialist for centuries.

Swamps, and malaria, they didn't build
a single city except for Ramle as
a substitution to Jerusalem,
using Roman built roads,
till Jews started taking
things back in order.

 

[rylah]

Was it "occupation" then?

On the contrary, history did start that day - totally different history.

 

[MJB12741]

We hear this talking point now repeated in unison, "HISTORY DIDN"T START ON 7TH OCT."

"Free Palestine" uses that to shift responsibility for violence against Israelis,
not only for being murdered that day, but any other day in the past,
and the entire conflict, i.e. "the Jews made them do that"...
This bears a simple question -

What was the Arab excuse for violence before Zionism?

Although less talked about because of the magnitude of the Holocaust,
it was the plight of the Jews in the Levant, following Arab pogroms
throughout the Caliphate, that initiate the Zionist organization.

For example -

Damascus affair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I learned on this board that the Palestinian response to the Jews before 1947 was one of love & peace. Amazing what we can learn here from the Palis & their supporters.

Hamas' genocidal massacre on October 7 has deep historical roots

 

[rylah]

I learned on this board that the Palestinian response to the Jews before 1947 was one of love & peace. Amazing what we can learn here from the Palis & their supporters.

Hamas' genocidal massacre on October 7 has deep historical roots

That's what Rashida "Not Hamas" Talib means by
her 'welcoming and warm feelings about the Holocaust'.

 

[Sixties Fan]