Here is how I see it, money and weapons alone aren't going to keep Russia from slowly taking more land, the E.U is going to have to send troops

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This is the reality as I see it. Ukraine doesn't have the numbers of young men to fight in this war and they need to keep recruiting new citizens once they reach the age.

Yes, it's courageous to fight for your country, but there have to be smart approaches. Get an economic deal, get peace for 20 years or so and rebuild your military and nation in the process. Time is what Ukraine needs, they have millions who have left their country. Bring your country back.

If the war is to continue the E.U is going to have to send soldiers, it's that simple. Or they are admitting "we just want the slow demise of Ukraine". They also need to fund their own defense at the same time.
 
This is the reality as I see it. Ukraine doesn't have the numbers of young men to fight in this war and they need to keep recruiting new citizens once they reach the age.

Yes, it's courageous to fight for your country, but there have to be smart approaches. Get an economic deal, get peace for 20 years or so and rebuild your military and nation in the process. Time is what Ukraine needs, they have millions who have left their country. Bring your country back.

If the war is to continue the E.U is going to have to send soldiers, it's that simple. Or they are admitting "we just want the slow demise of Ukraine". They also need to fund their own defense at the same time.

This is what is upsetting the Libs so much. Since President Trump is refusing to send American men to fight the Forever War in Ukraine, their beloved Eurotrash will have to. And of course the Eurotrash will have to get rid of some of their socialist schemes to pay for it.

Further, a land war in Asia is what American libs are hoping for with Trump in charge, give them something to run against in future elections.

BTW, bet Britain is glad they brexit'ed.
 
Or the United Nations need to do what it was formed to do, set up UN troops between the two forces and get both sides together and work out the issues sitting across the table and talk.
 
This is what is upsetting the Libs so much. Since President Trump is refusing to send American men to fight the Forever War in Ukraine, their beloved Eurotrash will have to. And of course the Eurotrash will have to get rid of some of their socialist schemes to pay for it.

Further, a land war in Asia is what American libs are hoping for with Trump in charge, give them something to run against in future elections.

BTW, bet Britain is glad they brexit'ed.
Well, if I am the E.U, I offer citizenship to all of their new male citizens of who they have allowed to come to their shores if they fight the war in Ukraine. This ultimately is for their nations defense.

If they choose not to fight, they are on the short list for deportation.

I say the same of U.S or Canadian illegals by the way. If a man comes from Mexico and says "I am willing to join the U.S military and deploy overseas in her defense" sign that man up for a path to citizenship.
 
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Zelensky is an idiot. As soon as it becomes apparent that Russia has an unbeatable hand, China will weasel in there to guarantee a Russian victory. That's probably the worst scenario and Zelensky is falling right into the trap.
 
This is what is upsetting the Libs so much. Since President Trump is refusing to send American men to fight the Forever War in Ukraine, their beloved Eurotrash will have to. And of course the Eurotrash will have to get rid of some of their socialist schemes to pay for it.

Further, a land war in Asia is what American libs are hoping for with Trump in charge, give them something to run against in future elections.

BTW, bet Britain is glad they brexit'ed.
Biden refused to send Americans to fight in Ukraine, why would liberals or Europe be upset if Trump didn't? Being upset with Trump isn't about troops on the ground....it's about him being an ass hole, cruel, an idiot jerk on display before the universe, capitulating and knee bending to the war criminal Putin, and creating this New World Order where we, the USA sides with the Autocrats, Authoritarian, dictators, war criminals, our enemies and go against our allies.

It's shocking, embarrassing, and shameful....and wrong, wrong, wrong!
 
Zelensky is an idiot. As soon as it becomes apparent that Russia has an unbeatable hand, China will weasel in there to guarantee a Russian victory. That's probably the worst scenario and Zelensky is falling right into the trap.
Zelensky is only doing what you would expect someone like him to do - take advantage of unprecedented virtue signaling by the left - who have unwavering praise for him like he is a super hero. And they shower him with $billions - no questions asked.
Zelensky would be VERY happy to cause WW III. No hesitation. He wants Europe to send troops, began talking about it several months ago. HE IS RUNNING OUT OF BODIES TO THROW AT HE FRONT LINES.
Without war - the $billions stop. And overnite he becomes a nobody.
The left treat him like the second coming of Christ.
And he wants it to continue.
 
This is the reality as I see it. Ukraine doesn't have the numbers of young men to fight in this war and they need to keep recruiting new citizens once they reach the age.

Yes, it's courageous to fight for your country, but there have to be smart approaches. Get an economic deal, get peace for 20 years or so and rebuild your military and nation in the process. Time is what Ukraine needs, they have millions who have left their country. Bring your country back.

If the war is to continue the E.U is going to have to send soldiers, it's that simple. Or they are admitting "we just want the slow demise of Ukraine". They also need to fund their own defense at the same time.

Actually, you are confused, Snidley.

If anyone is running out of troops, it's Putin. He's having to drag old T-55s out of museums because he is losing tanks faster than they can build them. He's having to empty his prisons to fill out units. He's having to rely on North Korean Mercenaries.

Putin almost got overthrown by his favorite group of Mercenaries, the Wagner Group.

He's not on stable ground, and he can't afford for this war to go on for a few minor gains in territory.
 
I say the same of U.S or Canadian illegals by the way. If a man comes from Mexico and says "I am willing to join the U.S military and deploy overseas in her defense" sign that man up for a path to citizenship.

Except some undocumented aliens have signed up, and we are still deporting them.

 
Actually, you are confused, Snidley.

If anyone is running out of troops, it's Putin. He's having to drag old T-55s out of museums because he is losing tanks faster than they can build them. He's having to empty his prisons to fill out units. He's having to rely on North Korean Mercenaries.

Putin almost got overthrown by his favorite group of Mercenaries, the Wagner Group.

He's not on stable ground, and he can't afford for this war to go on for a few minor gains in territory.

North Korea is an ally of the Russian Federation, is "mercenary" a proper term?

Were Black Jack Pershing and George Patton's armies "mercenaries" during the world wars when they fought in Europe?
 
North Korea is an ally of the Russian Federation, is "mercenary" a proper term?

Were Black Jack Pershing and George Patton's armies "mercenaries" during the world wars when they fought in Europe?

Well, not really comparable, as Germany declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. So that made us a party to the war.

As far as I know, Ukraine has not declared war on North Korea and treats North Koreans pretty decently when they defect.
 
This is the reality as I see it. Ukraine doesn't have the numbers of young men to fight in this war and they need to keep recruiting new citizens once they reach the age.

Yes, it's courageous to fight for your country, but there have to be smart approaches. Get an economic deal, get peace for 20 years or so and rebuild your military and nation in the process. Time is what Ukraine needs, they have millions who have left their country. Bring your country back.

If the war is to continue the E.U is going to have to send soldiers, it's that simple. Or they are admitting "we just want the slow demise of Ukraine". They also need to fund their own defense at the same time.

If they can get American taxpayers to foot the bill, and American soldiers to do their fighting, why should they lift a finger?
We (Americans) should be lifting a finger, to those who control the EU and hate America.
 

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