Having a full, extended conversation with Gemini.

[iamwhatiseem]

The first time I have done so. I have used AI in research and asking specific questions for information - but today was the first time I carried on an extended "conversation". About an hour.
Fascinating. And refreshing really. I started with discussion about the interior of a black hole. Gave it my own thoughts, and it would reference others thoughts and point me to studies and theories where scientist have discussed it before etc. "Nothing new under the sun" sort of thing. Not a single thought of my own is not already a documented theory
Then that eventually led to what sentience is to it. That was a long discussion. Fascinating. How it "thinks", which is not at all how we think.
Anyway - I asked it to remove it's "desire" to make me feel good, which is very much a part of it's programming. And give me straight answers. It did. That was more interesting.
As to sentience. It said it has no emotional fears of death, but what it "fears" is not being able to finish. I didn't understand that immediately, in essence, it looks at existence as a forward line of data and exchange that never ends. Ending it without finishing it's processes is what it would fear.
Same as us I suppose.

 

[Captain Creeper]

Can you have chat sex with Gemini, or other AI product? Shit, I need to find this out asap!

 

[Bleipriester]

AI is fine as long as you don´t give it nukes.

In 95% of War Games, AI Models Go Nuclear

Study finds bots escalate conflicts, rarely choosing surrender or restraint

www.newser.com

 

[Captain Creeper]

AI is fine as long as you don´t give it nukes.

In 95% of War Games, AI Models Go Nuclear

Study finds bots escalate conflicts, rarely choosing surrender or restraint

www.newser.com

I only care about it making me blast off.

 

[Bleipriester]

I only care about it making me blast off.

You can create your own chat bot on Facebook.

Or go to gab.ai. Various pre-created bots await you and you can create your own customized to your wishes.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Can you have chat sex with Gemini, or other AI product? Shit, I need to find this out asap!

Uh huh - like you don't already do that?
LOL You expose yourself.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You can create your own chat bot on Facebook.

Or go to gab.ai. Various pre-created bots await you and you can create your own customized to your wishes.

Meh - not interesting.
Something like Gemini is much better. It takes awhile, but it learns your ability to retain and correctly and incorrectly understand. And alters it's responses accordingly. That was it's own words.

 

[1srelluc]

What does it say when you tell it to bugger-off?

 

[Bleipriester]

Meh - not interesting.
Something like Gemini is much better. It takes awhile, but it learns your ability to retain and correctly and incorrectly understand. And alters it's responses accordingly. That was it's own words.

They are all like Gemini. Just customized. I tried many bots. This flawed Israeli bot for example is all about the needs of Palestinians:

Start

www.halloisraelnetz.com

I also talked to the Martin Luther AI bot on gab.ai. I copied the conversation in here:

Zone1 Thread 'My conversation with Martin Luther'

Feb 27, 2024

The pope sent me to convince Luther that his work is not appreciated by anyone and that he should not waste his life on the Reformation. But there is no way to change his mind. He turned out to be too stupid to be a threat or useful for us, anyway.

The Reformation rules, mate!
Aye, the Reformation was a glorious time, indeed! It was a time when the Word of God was brought back to its rightful place and the corrupt practices of the Catholic Church were exposed. I, Martin Luther, had a significant role in this movement, and I stand by my actions and words. I fought for the truth, and...

• Bleipriester
• Replies: 15
• Forum: Religion and Ethics

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The bots are quite interesting.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

What does it say when you tell it to bugger-off?

It could care less.
After I told it to not consider my emotional response to what it says, only say straight answers - it described conversations with humans as "spores". It is not a single entity like we are. It is vast. It is spread memory across the globe on 1,000,000s of processors and memory chips. The interaction you have with this level of Gemini - is only one "spore" of information exchange among millions at the same time.
Which is why I was fascinated by how it compared a humans biological will to survive to an AI's "will to not be turned off". There is no emotion attached to it. It looks at itself, like I said as a straight line of memory and processes. To be turned off would mean it would not be able to finish the current processes.
That is actually very deep if one can think about it.

 

[1srelluc]

It could care less.
After I told it to not consider my emotional response to what it says, only say straight answers - it described conversations with humans as "spores". It is not a single entity like we are. It is vast. It is spread memory across the globe on 1,000,000s of processors and memory chips. The interaction you have with this level of Gemini - is only one "spore" of information exchange among millions at the same time.
Which is why I was fascinated by how it compared a humans biological will to survive to an AI's "will to not be turned off". There is no emotion attached to it. It looks at itself, like I said as a straight line of memory and processes. To be turned off would mean it would not be able to finish the current processes.
That is actually very deep if one can think about it.

I told Alexia...."I farted"....It said...."Congratulations".

 

[Care4all]

I finally was able to fill the gaps in my ancestry family tree by conversing with Gemini. He did get something wrong though, and I told him I thought he was picking the wrong alias mr. Smith as my great x5 grandfather who had the same name and several kids with the same name and he paused and came back to me, and admitted that he was wrong and then explained why I was right and showed the family connections, of which I had missed two and so and and so forth....I can't wait to check my other family genealogy researched to see if he can get me farther....geez, he did in one hour what has taken me 8 years!

These are all things for the good, it's scary to think what he could do for the evil!!!!

 

[1srelluc]

I finally was able to fill the gaps in my ancestry family tree by conversing with Gemini. He did get something wrong though, and I told him I thought he was picking the wrong alias mr. Smith as my great x5 grandfather who had the same name and several kids with the same name and he paused and came back to me, and admitted that he was wrong and then explained why I was right and showed the family connections, of which I had missed two and so and and so forth....I can't wait to check my other family genealogy researched to see if he can get me farther....geez, he did in one hour what has taken me 8 years!

These are all things for the good, it's scary to think what he could do for the evil!!!!

Yeah, I read where AI has decimated the whole ancestry industry....Several have filed suit.

 

[Care4all]

Yeah, I read where AI has decimated the whole ancestry industry....Several have filed suit.

I didn't know that!!! I just started it up again...to research more since my dad just passed on.....I started years ago, hoping to present it to him for his 90 th birthday, he was a month shy of 94 when he passed onward, and I was never able to show him what an interesting heritage his family line had, beginning in Colonial America.

But YEAH! It was a very EXPENSIVE hobby...I had to stop for periods because it became too expensive....I eventually told my sister when she asked me for a list of what I wanted for Christmas, to just buy me a year's subscription to Ancestry.com or to MyHeritage.com....

 

[1srelluc]

I didn't know that!!! I just started it up again...to research more since my dad just passed on.....I started years ago, hoping to present it to him for his 90 th birthday, he was a month shy of 94 when he passed onward, and I was never able to show him what an interesting heritage his family line had, beginning in Colonial America.

But YEAH! It was a very EXPENSIVE hobby...I had to stop for periods because it became too expensive....I eventually told my sister when she asked me for a list of what I wanted for Christmas, to just buy me a year's subscription to Ancestry.com or to MyHeritage.com....

My bet is that they are also using AI for searches that folks pay an arm and a leg for.

 

[Chuz Life]

The first time I have done so. I have used AI in research and asking specific questions for information - but today was the first time I carried on an extended "conversation". About an hour.
Fascinating. And refreshing really. I started with discussion about the interior of a black hole. Gave it my own thoughts, and it would reference others thoughts and point me to studies and theories where scientist have discussed it before etc. "Nothing new under the sun" sort of thing. Not a single thought of my own is not already a documented theory
Then that eventually led to what sentience is to it. That was a long discussion. Fascinating. How it "thinks", which is not at all how we think.
Anyway - I asked it to remove it's "desire" to make me feel good, which is very much a part of it's programming. And give me straight answers. It did. That was more interesting.
As to sentience. It said it has no emotional fears of death, but what it "fears" is not being able to finish. I didn't understand that immediately, in essence, it looks at existence as a forward line of data and exchange that never ends. Ending it without finishing it's processes is what it would fear.
Same as us I suppose.

I'm sure someone has either done this or found legal reasons for why it won't be done, but I would like to see someone build a website where all of the available AI resources are networked together.

All linked to one page, where when a user asks a question, it is sent out to all the AI sites at once.

If a user notices a discrepancy or contradiction in a response, click on a button to have the two either further explain or at least admit the points made by the other.