And now, for our esteemed guest, Charlton Heston
and he really is THE
Hollywood icon, in the world today. He is probably the most recognized
person, other than presidents or other top politicians, like British prime
ministers or something
and I dont say that lightly. I mean, everyone
knows who Charlton Heston is, and it really made the socialists, in the
culture wars, as Mr. Heston calls it, angry when he stepped up to the plate.
a couple of years ago, back into the second amendment fight
and now his
new book is amazing, The Courage To Be Free.
Mr. Heston? Thank you, for joining us today.
HESTON: Well, thank you for loaning me your audience. Its a pleasure to
talk to you.
JONES: You bet. Why did you decide to get back really involved in the second amendment fight at the forefront, and write this new book, The Courage To Be Free ?
HESTON: Well, of course Ive been involved with the second amendment, you could say, since I was a little kid shooting deer up in Michigan. But, then I
became involved more seriously with the Bill of Rights
and I came to see
the importance of defending every article
all twelve articles of the Bill
of Rights. Of which, the Second is the right to keep and bear arms. And,
weve had a lot of success with it in the last election.
Theres an interesting thing
The president, last April
felt this would
be a good time to take down the NRA, and he made a couple of brief radio
addresses about it and so on, and then he realized it wasnt going to fly, and
so he abandoned it. And, of course what he didnt realize, as we found
ourselves rather amazed to find, when I was campaigning through what?
eight different states and several different cities.
The.. and what the president had not realized is
not just the NRA
The
NRA has what?
just under five thousands members. Im sorry
five
million. And, we campaigned on this issue, in part because, of course,
as again, the president did not realize that an overwhelming proportion of
people in this country are hunters. Of course they are
this is hunting
country. The whole continent is a hunting continent. Except for New York and LA, of course
heh, heh.
JONES: Yeah, those basic
HESTON:
and we had enormous guests. We would gather crowds
at Flint,
Michigan, I think, was the biggest one. We had a rally at seven oclock in
the morning
which meant people had to
who were going to work of course
driving to work, had to get up at six oclock, and we had some three
thousand people in several different venues. And, in every case the second
amendment won the day. It was quite surprising, I have to say.
JONES: Well, we see the mainstream media
the controlled propaganda arms, is what I call them, and I think theyve shown themselves to deserve that title
convincing a lot of people, that the average American isnt for
the second amendment. But, if you can explain to people the basics,
of how its there to defend us from the street thugs, the government thug, or
to put food on the table, not to mention, just as a sporting enjoyment and
heritage, most people are actually for it.
John Ashcroft, right now
theyre trying to confirm him. I think he would
be a good
HESTON: I think he
I think he will be confirmed. I think hell make a fine
attorney general
certainly a far better one than Janet Reno.
JONES: Absolutely. That wouldnt be too hard to do. Mr. Kennedy, who I really dont think has any room to talk, with all the skeletons in his closet, began to attack
HESTON: There is no one in the U.S. Senate who has more skeletons in his
closet than
than Kennedy. He should be ashamed of himself. He really
should. I worked for his older brother. I voted for him. I campaigned for
him, and
but, Teddy Kennedy is another piece of work entirely.
But, anyway
to return to this question of the second amendment
There
are, for example, forty one states that have conceal carry laws, meaning that if you pass a background check, show that youve had no felony convictions of any kind
Show that you, ah
. demonstrate to use the firearm safely
You can then get a permit to carry a concealed carry weapon, under you arm or where ever. And, thats something I dont want to do, because I dont feel its
Ive used too many pistols in too many movies. Theyre kind of heavy to carry
but, anyway the point is that in every one of the forty states that have conceal carry laws
One, The murder rate
the crime rate
Two, nevermind the murder rate
the crime rate has dropped significantly
significantly in every one of
those states. Why? Because of course, most people who have this permit dont carry all the time. But, the point is, the bad guys dont know whos
carrying and who isnt. Then, of course you dont even have to carry then.
JONES: Again, ladies and gentlemen, were talking to Charlton Heston
his new book
well tell you how to get it in just a second, The Courage
To Be Free. Its powerful
I read half of it this morning
HESTON: Well, thank you.
JONES:
and yesterday. But, going back to the Ashcroft thing, because it
ties into the second amendment
HESTON: It does, indeed.
JONES:
Kennedy attacked him on the second amendment, because of course, Ashcroft is pro second amendment
pro constitution
Bill of Rights,
and he said, How dare you say that these guns are here to protect from
tyranny in government?
Well, it turned out that Ashcrofts actual quote was basically paraphrasing
Thomas Jefferson. So how dare Kennedy? Any comments on that?
HESTON: Ah, you know
I have to say, as much as I admire his big brother,
Teddy Kennedy is one of the worse members of the U.S. Senate. I really feel
that, and Im
He shoots his mouth off, and he has the right to
hes a
U.S. Senator, but he is not good one.
JONES: Well, I think they show their hatred for the second amendment. You talk about a culture war a lot
in your newest book and of course, in your
eloquent speeches
I almost fell over, when I saw you on one the NRA news
shows, when you said, You can take it from my cold dead hands
, and you
raised up that musket.
HESTON: Yeah, oh
that musket? Yes, that worked out very well. T think, you know
I could give you any number of examples. For example, do you know the largest and fastest growing group of purchasers of small handguns, in the country? Single women
Of course.
Theyre women with permanently absent husbands, who have two or three kids theyre trying to support. They want to spend some time with them, so that means they have to be there when they get home from school. Which means they have to work
make a living
because the husband is long gone
by cleaning office buildings until three or four oclock in the morning, and then they ride the bus, within three or four blocks of where they live.
But, then they have to walk those last few blocks in the dark, all by
themselves. Of course they want a small pistol in their purse.
JONES:
and how dare this corrupt government
those running it, especially the democrats
tell women, they dont have that right. Im sure youve heard of the solicitor general, who said the second amendment, Mr. Heston, does not extend to individuals.
HESTON: Yes, Ive read that, and of course thats not true. Every one of the
founding fathers those wise old dead white guys that invented the country
every one of them is elaborately on record at the time, about the importance of the second amendment and the meaning of the second amendment. It is simply impossible to deny that, and the efforts of the anti-gun mob, are just speeches.
JONES: Youre talking about the Federalist Papers documenting the true
intent
HESTON: Yes, of course. And, the Bill of Rights itself, and the Federalist
Papers. But, also while they were drafting the Bill of Rights, they went
they wrote
every one of them wrote papers on this, as youve said, one of
the Federalist Papers
JONES: Mr. Heston, I know you are incredibly busy
weve got a real short
three minute break right here
if you can stay with us, I want to
HESTON: Sure, Im here
Im fine.
JONES: Fantastic
I want to tell folks how to get, The Courage To Be Free. And, if every one of you out there doesnt get in the fight like Mr. Heston has done, for the second amendment, were going to lose it, and eh
well, we know who was for gun control: Hitler
Stalin.. Mao
you name it.
I want to bring up that historical fact to Mr. Heston, who has lived through
quite a few decades, watching tyrants, globally.
Well be right back
this is Genesis and the Liberty Works Radio Network
Stay with us.
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JONES: Alright
were back live, ladies and gentlemen, and one of our talk
show hosts, Dave Von Kliest just called in, and said hed be happy to donated
his song
its awesome, You Can Take It From My Cold Dead Hands. (Well)
probably have to send Mr. Heston a copy of that.
Were talking to Charlton Heston
His new book, The Courage To Be Free,
and right now, Im going to tell you how to get it, ladies and gentlemen. You
really need to order this book. You need to
after youre done reading it,
you need to pass it on to friends.
Its a toll free number to call
To order the book:
800.697.8844
or go to the website
its one word:
CourageToBeFree.com
Now going to go back to Mr. Heston, who really needs no introduction.
Tyranny
I mean, isnt that one of the strongest arguments against gun
control and restricting
HESTON: Absolutely. If
and Im so glad you asked me that question. Because if we consider that our revolution was the first and most significant
close (closest) to a democratic government, since the founding of the Roman Republic.
Then following our revolution, successful.. was the French Revolution which
quickly collapsed into the bloody terror, followed by dictatorship of
Napoleon, followed in due time by the dictatorships of Hitler and Mussolini
and Stalin, and mind you, both
two of those men
both Hitler and
Mussolini were elected by democratic procedure.
And then we get to Pol Pott and Laurent Cavilla, who was killed just the day
before yesterday, I believe
I think God will not miss him. And um
Mau
Tse Tsung and of course, Fidel Castro.
And, everyone of these monsters
and I think its fair to call them that,
every one of them
the first thing they did when they took office was to
confiscate all privately held firearms. Ah
the defense rests.
JONES: Absolutely, Mr. Heston. Again, Charelton Heston, ladies and gentlemen. In fact, Ive looked at the actual numbers, and um
accountants, and others have
and the states with the highest taxes have the most egregious gun control. I dont think thats an accident.
HESTON: No, I dont think so, either. Its the firm intent of the liberal
left
no question.
JONES: Well, how can they even get away with the term, liberal, meaning
theyre into freedom. I see the so-called liberal left, militarizing the
police, building prisons everywhere, and going after good peoples guns.
HESTON: Well, of course originally, the idea of being a liberal meant a certain
concern for the rights of the individual. Now, it doesnt mean anything like
that. Now, it means the rights of the government. And, we have to constantly stand against that.
JONES: Well, the left has really had a problem coming after you, because on the subject of eh
you know, the God given rights of black people in this
country, you were right out there at the forefront, fighting
When there
were real environmental problems, you were out there at the forefront,
fighting. And, now theyre like, What is Heston doing?, Hes out there
fighting for the second amendment!, How dare him?.
I actually saw some guys on one of the big classic movie shows, bad mouthing you before they aired Soylent Green, which is one of my favorites.
HESTON: Well, there you go. But, I have to tell you, the other day on Martin
Luther King day, I was invited by C.O.R.E., to attend their banquet, and I was the principle speaker, and they gave me a bust of Dr. King, which having
spent as much time as I was able to do with him, Im very proud to have.
JONES: So, its very hard for them to attack your record. I mean, this really
is another human right
to be able to defend ourselves.
HESTON: Absolutely. It is certainly among the first of human rights.
JONES: Again folks, the book, The Courage To Be Free
the website,
TheCourageToBeFree.Com. Thats one word, TheCourageToBeFree.Com.
When we come back in the next segment Mr. Heston will have left us, but Ill
give you the number again to get the book and I imagine its in all the major
bookstores, or should be.
Last question
Where do you see the fight going in the next two years? I
think its critical, if the socialists, known as the democrats, win control
of the House and the Senate. We could even
in four years, have a Gentleman Bill in the White House with Hillary as the president.
HESTON: No, we couldnt get Mr. Clinton back
that would be against the
Constitution.
JONES: Yeah
22nd amendment, but hell still be back in the White House as
the First Gentleman
See the joke?
HESTON: Yeah
Do you think Mrs. Clinton can be elected? I dont think so.
JONES: Im not sure.
HESTON: Well, were going to have to work on that, arent we?
JONES: Well we certainly are. In fact, I have to tell you, Mr. Heston, Im
glad to see the NRA getting more hard core.
HESTON: Well, weve got to do it. Its too important. Weve tried to keep
out of that fight. But think this last election has proved that it was
important to stay with it. Every American should vote.
JONES: Ive seen one of your news shows on, where you admit that on the UN and others, are involved actively, internationally to get our guns.
HESTON: Yeah
oh, yes indeed. Absolutely.
JONES: Well, Mr. Heston, God bless for joining us, and I appreciate your long
fight for peoples rights. I know you will continue, and eh
best of luck!
HESTON: Well, thank you for loaning me your audience. Its been pleasure and a privilege.
JONES: God bless you, sir.
HESTON: And you
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