Fertility Reshaping America
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Bill O'Olberman
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Okay, so the racial makeup of the United States is changing...
Ravi
Diamond Member
Who cares?
Besides William Joyce, I mean.
Besides William Joyce, I mean.
Gatekeeper
Senior Member
That has been for as long as I can remember. 'Uncontrolled breeding', by those who can least afford to raise a family. The rest of us are stuck, no forced, to take care of their incompetent decisions and their offspring suffer in many cases a horrible existence lacking in proper nutrition, housing, health care, well forget healthcare, Obama has seen fit to force us to take care of millions of others, and I might add, at the expense of the health and lifestyle that most of us worked our asses off for decades to achieve.
Now you know how the AmerIndians felt.
Those EUROS bred like flies, too.
nraforlife
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why the sad face? We need to celebrate this growth of Diversity.
nraforlife
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Ever wonder WHY those 'conservative' icons Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2 NEVER did a thing to combat the unrushing USA train wreck when a solution would have been relatively painless?
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chanel
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There are many reasons why. But that was then This is now, And the future.
I naively thought that illegal immigration, and out of wedlock births was not a partisan issue. But then again the Dems I know are practical thinkers. Not so much in Congress or on this board.
I naively thought that illegal immigration, and out of wedlock births was not a partisan issue. But then again the Dems I know are practical thinkers. Not so much in Congress or on this board.
geauxtohell
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Wow. Broad brush much?
Who really cares? This country and the concepts it was founded on will march on when we are all dust and bones.
I find the collective xenophobia about ethnic groups to be a little strange. It's nothing new in this country (watch gangs of New York) and just keeps getting replayed over and over.
I would say its a combo of these things:
(1) Unchecked and liberal protected illegal immigration. The illegals are tossing in American citizens as anchor babies.
(2) Legal immigration is coming from mostly Latino countries. Most countries including Mexico take in immigrants who are upper echelons of their country, scientist, engineers or doctors, yet we are welcoming in lower echelon people from 3rd world countries.
(3) White people have less kids because in the Middle Class kids are expensive. I have 3 kids, between diapers, food, clothes, entertainment, preschool, college savings, shelter and activities, I can barely make in on mine and my wife's $100K+ combined salaries annual. Face it children, however very rewarding, are expensive. Look at your friends that always seem to have a lot of money and go on long expensive trips, they are usually single or couples without children.
(4) HOWEVER, American Liberals have created a system that caters to lower class people having babies (where the majority of the Latinos fall into). First, the more children they have, the better chance and more dollars in welfare they can get. Food stamps covers the food expense. They don't pay any taxes. They will get medicaid and free emergency room visits. Then they get section 8 housing, not to mention free day care aka school. American liberals have created a systems that rewards and gives enormous incentive to people who can't afford to have children to have children.
(5) The Sanctuary City Mayors in CA, AZ, NM, TX and Chicago create all the incentive to come to America and have as a litter of babies. Heck the mayor of LA even publicly states CA is part of Mexico and will be it again.
(1) Unchecked and liberal protected illegal immigration. The illegals are tossing in American citizens as anchor babies.
(2) Legal immigration is coming from mostly Latino countries. Most countries including Mexico take in immigrants who are upper echelons of their country, scientist, engineers or doctors, yet we are welcoming in lower echelon people from 3rd world countries.
(3) White people have less kids because in the Middle Class kids are expensive. I have 3 kids, between diapers, food, clothes, entertainment, preschool, college savings, shelter and activities, I can barely make in on mine and my wife's $100K+ combined salaries annual. Face it children, however very rewarding, are expensive. Look at your friends that always seem to have a lot of money and go on long expensive trips, they are usually single or couples without children.
(4) HOWEVER, American Liberals have created a system that caters to lower class people having babies (where the majority of the Latinos fall into). First, the more children they have, the better chance and more dollars in welfare they can get. Food stamps covers the food expense. They don't pay any taxes. They will get medicaid and free emergency room visits. Then they get section 8 housing, not to mention free day care aka school. American liberals have created a systems that rewards and gives enormous incentive to people who can't afford to have children to have children.
(5) The Sanctuary City Mayors in CA, AZ, NM, TX and Chicago create all the incentive to come to America and have as a litter of babies. Heck the mayor of LA even publicly states CA is part of Mexico and will be it again.
You don't care because you don't see the negative implications of this. Read about how the Blacks are being forced out of Dallas, because those schools have to cater to the lare influx of Latinos who no speaka any ingles. In many cases in Dallas, they aren't even teaching them English, but are receiving entirely Spanish classes for every class. The Blacks are getting pushed out.
Black leaders leaving Dallas schools along with students | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News
And to you, you are seeing a racial thing. But there is a huge culture change happening. The Latinos are fine when they come here an assimilate in the American way of life. Too many aren't doing that, they come from failed Latino Nations (Besides, Chile or Brazil none can be considered on the up and up) refuse to learn the language, have major animosity towards Whites and Blacks and have socialist/Big Government thinking.
On a personal note my Barber is American if Mexican descendant. She is 2nd generation and still has the accent. She told me she has to move to get into a new school district, because too many Mexicans are coming into the current one. I found it odd, because she is well Mexicans. Her response, "Too many Mexicans students bring down the education all the other students get and bring a gang culture to the school system."
Call me a racist all you want, but the Latinos having babies by the dozens aren't the ones that assimilate into the American culture and embrace being Americans. That is what I have a problem with!
Gatekeeper
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A Broad Problem, requires a Broad Brush.
I have to laugh at your comment about your perceived xenophobia of others when this has NOTHING whatever to do with the fear of foreigners, but the stupid actions of ALL people who breed like there's no tomorrow and hardly have the finances to pay an electric bill much less feed their off spring.
What is it with some people that they feel the need to bring race, ethnicity or other irrelevant BS into a simple discussion is beyond me. I hardly think the OP, myself, or few others even thought of RACE or Country of origin in this thread, it is rampant in all races where ever they are from.
geauxtohell
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This thread is about race and ethnicity. So that was a fail at playing the "reverse-racism card". The thread is about the fact that minorities are having more offspring than whites and you automatically correlated that with government handouts.
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rdean
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It's nothing to do with "fertility".
It's all about "education".
Educated people "plan".
They use "birth control".
They understand there is more to babies than just "having them". You have to "raise" them.
The highest birth rate among "white" teens (and STD's) are the Christian right that teaches failed policy of "abstinence" only.
Studies have shown that "Abstinence Plus" works best. But the right, blinded by their failed ideology, sees things with a tunnel vision that hurts their own children and their children's future. But hey, it's "Gawdly".
Everywhere there is "Abstinence only", there is also the highest dropout rate.
As minorities, any minority becomes educated, their "fertility" rate drops.
http://ari.ucsf.edu/science/reports/abstinence.pdf
The abstinence-only approach to sex education
is not supported by the extensive body of scientific
research on what works to protect young
people from HIV/AIDS, sexually transmitted infections
(STIs), and unplanned pregnancy. An
assessment of the peer-reviewed, published
research reveals no evidence that abstinenceonly
programs delay sexual initiation or reduce
STIs or pregnancy. By contrast, credible research
clearly demonstrates that some comprehensive
sex education, or “abstinence-plus,”
programs can achieve positive behavioral
changes among young people and reduce STIs,
and that these programs do not encourage
young people to initiate sexual activity earlier or
have more sexual partners.
The growing prominence of the abstinence-only
approach will likely have serious unintended
consequences by denying young people access
to the information they need to protect themselves.
And abstinence-only programs risk alienating
the young people at highest risk of
negative health outcomes by promoting a “one
size fits all” vision of adolescence that matches
the true experiences of only a minority of youth.
It's all about "education".
Educated people "plan".
They use "birth control".
They understand there is more to babies than just "having them". You have to "raise" them.
The highest birth rate among "white" teens (and STD's) are the Christian right that teaches failed policy of "abstinence" only.
Studies have shown that "Abstinence Plus" works best. But the right, blinded by their failed ideology, sees things with a tunnel vision that hurts their own children and their children's future. But hey, it's "Gawdly".
Everywhere there is "Abstinence only", there is also the highest dropout rate.
As minorities, any minority becomes educated, their "fertility" rate drops.
http://ari.ucsf.edu/science/reports/abstinence.pdf
The abstinence-only approach to sex education
is not supported by the extensive body of scientific
research on what works to protect young
people from HIV/AIDS, sexually transmitted infections
(STIs), and unplanned pregnancy. An
assessment of the peer-reviewed, published
research reveals no evidence that abstinenceonly
programs delay sexual initiation or reduce
STIs or pregnancy. By contrast, credible research
clearly demonstrates that some comprehensive
sex education, or “abstinence-plus,”
programs can achieve positive behavioral
changes among young people and reduce STIs,
and that these programs do not encourage
young people to initiate sexual activity earlier or
have more sexual partners.
The growing prominence of the abstinence-only
approach will likely have serious unintended
consequences by denying young people access
to the information they need to protect themselves.
And abstinence-only programs risk alienating
the young people at highest risk of
negative health outcomes by promoting a “one
size fits all” vision of adolescence that matches
the true experiences of only a minority of youth.
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chanel
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Take it to another thread rdean. The minorities having babies don't come from the Bible belt. We have a comprehensive sex ed program in our district. And we currently have over 20 pregnant teens. And yes - most of them are minorities.
The broad brush is appropriate here because we are talking about the Census. If the information was not important or relevant, the question need not be asked.
It is not just about government handouts. It's about culture and education and crime and neglected children, etc. It should not be a partisan issue; but apparently it is.
And Ghook - we have had an influx of Hispanics from another district (both PR and Mexican) and they have stated the same thing as your barber. They want a better school district because of all the Mexicans in their old school. Weird.
The broad brush is appropriate here because we are talking about the Census. If the information was not important or relevant, the question need not be asked.
It is not just about government handouts. It's about culture and education and crime and neglected children, etc. It should not be a partisan issue; but apparently it is.
And Ghook - we have had an influx of Hispanics from another district (both PR and Mexican) and they have stated the same thing as your barber. They want a better school district because of all the Mexicans in their old school. Weird.
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