Fact Check: Trump's visa lottery system doesn't exist

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump's visa lottery system doesn't exist

President Trump, once more either showing his ignorance..or just plain lying:


"President Donald Trump is looking for a fix to a problem that doesn't exist — stopping foreign countries from picking out troublesome people for a lottery to move to the U.S. They don't get to do that.

He's talking about the diversity visa program, which bears little resemblance to his common portrayal of it. Trump's mischaracterization of the program on the weekend followed a speech to conservatives Friday that drifted off the facts on the economy, the environment and more.


A look at his recent rhetoric:

TRUMP: "I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they're not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don't want to have their good people to leave. ... We want people based on merit. Not based on the fact they are thrown into a bin and many of those people are not the people you want in the country, believe me." — Fox News phone interview Saturday night.

THE FACTS: That's not how it works.

The lottery program is run by the U.S. government, not foreign governments. Other countries do not get to sort through their populations looking for bad apples to put in a "bin" for export to the U.S. Citizens of qualifying countries are the ones who decide to bid for visas under the program.

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions, the State Department randomly selects a much smaller pool of winners. Not all winners will have visas ultimately approved, because they still must compete for a smaller number of slots by getting their applications in quickly. Those who are ultimately offered visas still need to go through background checks, like other immigrants.

The lottery is extended to citizens of most countries, except about 20. The primary goal is to diversify the immigrant population by creating slots for underrepresented parts of the world."
 
I know a guy who came from Belize on a visa lottery, he's now in jail for armed robbery
 
Premise 1) It's a visa program
Premise 2) It's a lottery program
Conclusion 1) It's a visa-lottery program
Conclusion 2) It's stupid as hell

Thanks for playing.
 

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions,
In 3rd world countries most of the paper work for these requirements are fake
 
I know a guy that was born in Kansas and had been here his whole life, he is now in jail for rape.

What the **** is your point?
Brown and black people commit crime at a very high rate
 
The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions,
In 3rd world countries most of the paper work for these requirements are fake
So you say...but how would you really know such things, eh?
 
The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions,
In 3rd world countries most of the paper work for these requirements are fake
So you say...but how would you really know such things, eh?
Fake documents is big business in the 3rd world
 
Premise 1) It's a visa program
Premise 2) It's a lottery program
Conclusion 1) It's a visa-lottery program
Conclusion 2) It's stupid as hell

Thanks for playing.
Why do you not speak to the point of the post?
You fail to address the fact that Trump was caught lying again...is this because you missed that..or is it that he lies so often that it's not really worthy of comment?
 
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's visa lottery system doesn't exist

President Trump, once more either showing his ignorance..or just plain lying:


"President Donald Trump is looking for a fix to a problem that doesn't exist — stopping foreign countries from picking out troublesome people for a lottery to move to the U.S. They don't get to do that.

He's talking about the diversity visa program, which bears little resemblance to his common portrayal of it. Trump's mischaracterization of the program on the weekend followed a speech to conservatives Friday that drifted off the facts on the economy, the environment and more.


A look at his recent rhetoric:

TRUMP: "I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they're not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don't want to have their good people to leave. ... We want people based on merit. Not based on the fact they are thrown into a bin and many of those people are not the people you want in the country, believe me." — Fox News phone interview Saturday night.

THE FACTS: That's not how it works.

The lottery program is run by the U.S. government, not foreign governments. Other countries do not get to sort through their populations looking for bad apples to put in a "bin" for export to the U.S. Citizens of qualifying countries are the ones who decide to bid for visas under the program.

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions, the State Department randomly selects a much smaller pool of winners. Not all winners will have visas ultimately approved, because they still must compete for a smaller number of slots by getting their applications in quickly. Those who are ultimately offered visas still need to go through background checks, like other immigrants.

The lottery is extended to citizens of most countries, except about 20. The primary goal is to diversify the immigrant population by creating slots for underrepresented parts of the world."

Donald is too stupid to understand how the visa "lottery" works. he thinks they put names into a fishbowl and whomever gets their name pulled out gets the golden ticket.

reality is that they're vetted for years before they get picked and it isn't random.

what a maroon....
 
you don't get through screening if you have a criminal background.

but I'm sure belize is beautiful.
Belize government want's to get rid of it's criminals
 
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AP FACT CHECK: Trump's visa lottery system doesn't exist

President Trump, once more either showing his ignorance..or just plain lying:


"President Donald Trump is looking for a fix to a problem that doesn't exist — stopping foreign countries from picking out troublesome people for a lottery to move to the U.S. They don't get to do that.

He's talking about the diversity visa program, which bears little resemblance to his common portrayal of it. Trump's mischaracterization of the program on the weekend followed a speech to conservatives Friday that drifted off the facts on the economy, the environment and more.


A look at his recent rhetoric:

TRUMP: "I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they're not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don't want to have their good people to leave. ... We want people based on merit. Not based on the fact they are thrown into a bin and many of those people are not the people you want in the country, believe me." — Fox News phone interview Saturday night.

THE FACTS: That's not how it works.

The lottery program is run by the U.S. government, not foreign governments. Other countries do not get to sort through their populations looking for bad apples to put in a "bin" for export to the U.S. Citizens of qualifying countries are the ones who decide to bid for visas under the program.

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions, the State Department randomly selects a much smaller pool of winners. Not all winners will have visas ultimately approved, because they still must compete for a smaller number of slots by getting their applications in quickly. Those who are ultimately offered visas still need to go through background checks, like other immigrants.

The lottery is extended to citizens of most countries, except about 20. The primary goal is to diversify the immigrant population by creating slots for underrepresented parts of the world."

EvilEyeFleegle, once more either showing his ignorance..or just plain lying.
 
AP FACT CHECK: Trump's visa lottery system doesn't exist

President Trump, once more either showing his ignorance..or just plain lying:


"President Donald Trump is looking for a fix to a problem that doesn't exist — stopping foreign countries from picking out troublesome people for a lottery to move to the U.S. They don't get to do that.

He's talking about the diversity visa program, which bears little resemblance to his common portrayal of it. Trump's mischaracterization of the program on the weekend followed a speech to conservatives Friday that drifted off the facts on the economy, the environment and more.


A look at his recent rhetoric:

TRUMP: "I mean we actually have lottery systems where you go to countries and they do lotteries for who comes into the United States. Now, you know they are not going to have their best people in the lottery, because they're not going to put their best people in a lottery. They don't want to have their good people to leave. ... We want people based on merit. Not based on the fact they are thrown into a bin and many of those people are not the people you want in the country, believe me." — Fox News phone interview Saturday night.

THE FACTS: That's not how it works.

The lottery program is run by the U.S. government, not foreign governments. Other countries do not get to sort through their populations looking for bad apples to put in a "bin" for export to the U.S. Citizens of qualifying countries are the ones who decide to bid for visas under the program.

The program requires applicants to have completed a high school education or have at least two years of experience in the last five years in a selection of fields identified by the Labor Department. Out of that pool of people from certain countries who meet those conditions, the State Department randomly selects a much smaller pool of winners. Not all winners will have visas ultimately approved, because they still must compete for a smaller number of slots by getting their applications in quickly. Those who are ultimately offered visas still need to go through background checks, like other immigrants.

The lottery is extended to citizens of most countries, except about 20. The primary goal is to diversify the immigrant population by creating slots for underrepresented parts of the world."

EvilEyeFleegle, once more either showing his ignorance..or just plain lying.
ROTFLMAO! Well..for sure..I'm not the smartest kid in the room..but..given that there are only 12 words of mine in this post--not sure I can take credit for this one.

Surely you can come up with a better insult than this?? What lie?

Looks to me that you have nothing in rebuttal...not a surprise--so you come up with something lame...since you cannot defend Trump's ignorance.

Sad.
 
Nit-pick all you want: His general point is correct: We've had some really lousy people come in via the visa lottery system, including some terrorists and criminals.
 
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