Do we need legislation to protect the public from AI abuses?

[Flopper]

In the attached link the author attempts to describe some of the most common dangers the public faces in the use of AI's. Is legislation needed to protect the public?

The Misrepresentation:
You have a problem with your computer or some software you purchased as I did. So you go to the customer or technical support tab on the company's web site. There you will probably find some frequently asked questions and answers and links to videos showing how to install and use the product.

Then you will see a button for customer or technical support. When you click the button you will be transferred to a website run by an online support organization that is contracted by the company to provide technically support. This organization is not really going to give you any real support. What they are going to do is collect information about you and your problem under the guise that it is needed to route you to the right place. The AI that you are chatting with is programmed to sense when you are getting impatient and likely to break the connection. As long you keep supplying information the AI will keep asking for more and more. And when you start screaming at the AI demanding to speak to a real support person, the AI says something like, while transferring you please read and agree to our policy. A few minutes later the AI comes back and tells you there will be a $1 fully refundable charge and you need to supply a credit card. It will ask if you have read the financial and privacy policy. When you say yes and type in your credit card info, three things happen. Your credit card is billed $45 as described in the documents you just agreed to, the entire script of the chat is sold to a data miner who will sell your personal information and other data you suppled, and you will you either be transfer to the companies technical support line or you are told to call back latter.

The above scenario happened to me about 6 weeks about. I contacted my state office of consumer affairs and was told what the organization did was perfectly legal and there was nothing they can do.

10 AI dangers and risks and how to manage them | IBM

A closer look at 10 dangers of artificial intelligence and actionable risk management strategies to consider today.

www.ibm.com

 

[Darkwind]

In the attached link the author attempts to describe some of the most common dangers the public faces in the use of AI's. Is legislation needed to protect the public?

The Misrepresentation:
You have a problem with your computer or some software you purchased as I did. So you go to the customer or technical support tab on the company's web site. There you will probably find some frequently asked questions and answers and links to videos showing how to install and use the product. Then you will see a button for customer or technical support. When you click the button you will be transferred to a website run by an online support organization that is contracted by the company to provide technically support. This organization is not really going to give you any real support. What they are going to do is collect information about you and your problem under the guise that it is needed to route you to the right place. The AI that you are chatting with is programmed to sense when you are getting impatient and likely to break the connection. As long you keep supplying information the AI will keep asking for more and more. And when you start screaming at the AI demanding to speak to a real support person, the AI says something like, while transferring you please read and agree to our policy. A few minutes later the AI comes back and tells you there will be a $1 fully refundable charge and you need to supply a credit card. It will ask if you have read the financial and privacy policy. When you say yes and type in your credit card info, three things happen. Your credit card is billed $45 as described in the documents you just agreed to, the entire script of the chat is sold to a data miner who will sell your personal information and other data you suppled, and you will you either be transfer to the companies technical support line or you are told to call back latter.

The above scenario happened to me about 6 weeks about. I contact my state office of consumer affairs and was told what the organization did was perfectly legal and there was nothing they can do.

10 AI dangers and risks and how to manage them | IBM

A closer look at 10 dangers of artificial intelligence and actionable risk management strategies to consider today.

www.ibm.com

All of this was happening BEFORE AI came on the scene.

 

[Doc7505]

In the attached link the author attempts to describe some of the most common dangers the public faces in the use of AI's. Is legislation needed to protect the public?

The Misrepresentation:
You have a problem with your computer or some software you purchased as I did. So you go to the customer or technical support tab on the company's web site. There you will probably find some frequently asked questions and answers and links to videos showing how to install and use the product.

Then you will see a button for customer or technical support. When you click the button you will be transferred to a website run by an online support organization that is contracted by the company to provide technically support. This organization is not really going to give you any real support. What they are going to do is collect information about you and your problem under the guise that it is needed to route you to the right place. The AI that you are chatting with is programmed to sense when you are getting impatient and likely to break the connection. As long you keep supplying information the AI will keep asking for more and more. And when you start screaming at the AI demanding to speak to a real support person, the AI says something like, while transferring you please read and agree to our policy. A few minutes later the AI comes back and tells you there will be a $1 fully refundable charge and you need to supply a credit card. It will ask if you have read the financial and privacy policy. When you say yes and type in your credit card info, three things happen. Your credit card is billed $45 as described in the documents you just agreed to, the entire script of the chat is sold to a data miner who will sell your personal information and other data you suppled, and you will you either be transfer to the companies technical support line or you are told to call back latter.

The above scenario happened to me about 6 weeks about. I contacted my state office of consumer affairs and was told what the organization did was perfectly legal and there was nothing they can do.

10 AI dangers and risks and how to manage them | IBM

A closer look at 10 dangers of artificial intelligence and actionable risk management strategies to consider today.

www.ibm.com

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Remember the old saying."GI-GO"

 

[Flopper]

All of this was happening BEFORE AI came on the scene.

That's true but there are important differences. The AI is programed to analyze your responses and provide just enough information to convince you that you are not being scammed. The AI is able to determine from your language when you might be getting wise to the scam However, the most important advantages of using an AI instead of humans is cost and consistency.

 

[Winston]

In the attached link the author attempts to describe some of the most common dangers the public faces in the use of AI's. Is legislation needed to protect the public?

The Misrepresentation:
You have a problem with your computer or some software you purchased as I did. So you go to the customer or technical support tab on the company's web site. There you will probably find some frequently asked questions and answers and links to videos showing how to install and use the product.

Then you will see a button for customer or technical support. When you click the button you will be transferred to a website run by an online support organization that is contracted by the company to provide technically support. This organization is not really going to give you any real support. What they are going to do is collect information about you and your problem under the guise that it is needed to route you to the right place. The AI that you are chatting with is programmed to sense when you are getting impatient and likely to break the connection. As long you keep supplying information the AI will keep asking for more and more. And when you start screaming at the AI demanding to speak to a real support person, the AI says something like, while transferring you please read and agree to our policy. A few minutes later the AI comes back and tells you there will be a $1 fully refundable charge and you need to supply a credit card. It will ask if you have read the financial and privacy policy. When you say yes and type in your credit card info, three things happen. Your credit card is billed $45 as described in the documents you just agreed to, the entire script of the chat is sold to a data miner who will sell your personal information and other data you suppled, and you will you either be transfer to the companies technical support line or you are told to call back latter.

The above scenario happened to me about 6 weeks about. I contacted my state office of consumer affairs and was told what the organization did was perfectly legal and there was nothing they can do.

10 AI dangers and risks and how to manage them | IBM

A closer look at 10 dangers of artificial intelligence and actionable risk management strategies to consider today.

www.ibm.com

Dude, that shipped has done sailed. The Big Beautiful Bill prevents any legislation to control AI for TEN ******* YEARS.

 

[Flopper]

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Remember the old saying."GI-GO"

AI's can be intelligent, friendly, and helpful. In fact more so than most humans. That's why they can be so effective as a scammer.

I was helping someone with an Internet connection and I had to contact the ISP, Comcast. The only way you get to there technical people is to go through their AI. During the rather long chat, I lost my temper and became a bit anger. I was shocked when the AI responded in kind. It suggest that if I had the information I had asked for, I wouldn't know what to do with it. I then told the AI if it did not connect me to tech support immediately, I would cancel service and state my reason being their AI. I was connected within 2 mins.

 

[Winston]

AI's can be intelligent, friendly, and helpful. In fact more so than most humans. That's why they can be so effective as a scammer.

I was helping someone with an Internet connection and I had to contact the ISP, Comcast. The only way you get to there technical people is to go through their AI. During the rather long chat, I lost my temper and became a bit anger. I was shocked when the AI responded in kind. It suggest that if I had the information I had asked for, I wouldn't know what to do with it. I then told the AI if it did not get connect me to tech support immediately, I would cancel service and state my reason being their AI. I was connected within 2 mins.

AI is a misnomer. Artificial, yes. Intelligence, uh, no,

 

[Flopper]

Dude, that shipped has done sailed. The Big Beautiful Bill prevents any legislation to control AI for TEN ******* YEARS.

No, the US Congress did not vote to prevent the control of AI for ten years. On July 1, 2025, the Senate voted 99-1 to remove a proposed 10-year ban on state regulation of artificial intelligence.

Uncontrolled AI systems pose a risk to human safety, particularly in critical applications like autonomous vehicles, healthcare diagnostics, or even AI-powered machines operating in close proximity to humans. AI often relies on large datasets, including personal information, raising concerns about data privacy and the potential for misuse or breaches.

 

[Winston]

No, the US Congress did not vote to prevent the control of AI for ten years. On July 1, 2025, the Senate voted 99-1 to remove a proposed 10-year ban on state regulation of artificial intelligence

Please post bill and House approval. I mean I see it, but I just ain't feeling it.

 

[Flopper]

No, the US Congress did not vote to prevent the control of AI for ten years. On July 1, 2025, the Senate voted 99-1 to remove a proposed 10-year ban on state regulation of artificial intelligence.

Uncontrolled AI systems pose a risk to human safety, particularly in critical applications like autonomous vehicles, healthcare diagnostics, or even AI-powered machines operating in close proximity to humans. AI often relies on large datasets, including personal information, raising concerns about data privacy and the potential for misuse or breaches.

AI is a misnomer. Artificial, yes. Intelligence, uh, no,

It's not truly intelligent in the same way humans are. An AI can excel at specific tasks based on data analysis and pattern recognition, but it lacks genuine understanding, consciousness, and the ability to think for itself. Hopefully, we are a long way from that.

 

[Flopper]

Please post bill and House approval. I mean I see it, but I just ain't feeling it.

It is not in the bill that went to the president.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/all-actions

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

AI needs to be regulated, yes.

 

[Darkwind]

I'm a supporter of freedom and a supporter of AI.

I think that in the end, this tool will help to save lives. Hell, it helped Me program a fuel load balance program I could run from My desktop and have it connect to the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. It provided Me with the fuel balance, by tank, and then checked the optimum fuel needed as a check against the flight plan. The only thing I didn't accomplish was writing to the variables that control those values.

Even the most ardent haters of AI all agree that its ability in medicine is beyond reproach and 100's of times more accurate than any Doctor.

Will people abuse it? Fucken-A, they will.

But banning the tool is not how you get around bad behavior.

 

[0311]

In the attached link the author attempts to describe some of the most common dangers the public faces in the use of AI's. Is legislation needed to protect the public?

The Misrepresentation:
You have a problem with your computer or some software you purchased as I did. So you go to the customer or technical support tab on the company's web site. There you will probably find some frequently asked questions and answers and links to videos showing how to install and use the product.

Then you will see a button for customer or technical support. When you click the button you will be transferred to a website run by an online support organization that is contracted by the company to provide technically support. This organization is not really going to give you any real support. What they are going to do is collect information about you and your problem under the guise that it is needed to route you to the right place. The AI that you are chatting with is programmed to sense when you are getting impatient and likely to break the connection. As long you keep supplying information the AI will keep asking for more and more. And when you start screaming at the AI demanding to speak to a real support person, the AI says something like, while transferring you please read and agree to our policy. A few minutes later the AI comes back and tells you there will be a $1 fully refundable charge and you need to supply a credit card. It will ask if you have read the financial and privacy policy. When you say yes and type in your credit card info, three things happen. Your credit card is billed $45 as described in the documents you just agreed to, the entire script of the chat is sold to a data miner who will sell your personal information and other data you suppled, and you will you either be transfer to the companies technical support line or you are told to call back latter.

The above scenario happened to me about 6 weeks about. I contacted my state office of consumer affairs and was told what the organization did was perfectly legal and there was nothing they can do.

10 AI dangers and risks and how to manage them | IBM

A closer look at 10 dangers of artificial intelligence and actionable risk management strategies to consider today.

www.ibm.com

In a word YES.

 

[Flopper]

I'm a supporter of freedom and a supporter of AI.

I think that in the end, this tool will help to save lives. Hell, it helped Me program a fuel load balance program I could run from My desktop and have it connect to the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. It provided Me with the fuel balance, by tank, and then checked the optimum fuel needed as a check against the flight plan. The only thing I didn't accomplish was writing to the variables that control those values.

Even the most ardent haters of AI all agree that its ability in medicine is beyond reproach and 100's of times more accurate than any Doctor.

Will people abuse it? Fucken-A, they will.

But banning the tool is not how you get around bad behavior.

There’s growing discussion around regulating AI, but many of its potential risks remain hypothetical. Some of these dangers may never materialize, others undoubtedly will. The legislation currently being proposed is so broadly written that effective enforcement would be nearly impossible. Before passing laws, we need a clearer, evidence-based understanding of the actual threats AI poses.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

AI needs to be regulated, yes.

Its too late but AI should have been squashed.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Its too late but AI should have been squashed.

Can't quash tech advancement that makes some richies even more rich.

 

[Mac1958]

In the attached link the author attempts to describe some of the most common dangers the public faces in the use of AI's. Is legislation needed to protect the public?

I don't think there's any doubt that this will be a pretty important question/topic moving forward.

Unfortunately, AI presents other pretty obvious dangers as well, and I see no evidence that we're ready or equipped for some of the challenges AI is about to present, or how AI will be used for nefarious purposes.

We remain very sleepy, in many ways.

 

[Flopper]

Its too late but AI should have been squashed.

AI can make people far more productive. The downside of course is it eliminates jobs. However over the long term, new technologies increase employment because they make possible whole new industries that never existed before. Will this be the case with AI?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

AI can make people far more productive. The downside of course is it eliminates jobs. However over the long term, new technologies increase employment because they make possible whole new industries that never existed before. Will this be the case with AI?

It will be the case for UBI.