Decoding WhaleSpeak. A new frontier

[CrusaderFrank]

Using hydrophones and monitoring the communication of whales over a specific area, AI has begun to decipher whale communication

The implications are both profound, dangerous and potentially pointless

Humans must tread carefully

Will we ask whales about their pronouns?

Will DARPA try to use whales as weapons?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, terrific

They won’t let me link to the video

 

[MisterBeale]

Using hydrophones and monitoring the communication of whales over a specific area, AI has begun to decipher whale communication

The implications are both profound, dangerous and potentially pointless

Humans must tread carefully

Will we ask whales about their pronouns?

Will DARPA try to use whales as weapons?

Thank you Frank, I don't usually go in for AI videos, especially ones with so low of viewer engagement, but this one was pretty good.

The biggest problem with this video are the images IMO. Project CETI was focused on sperm whales, but the vast majority of images in this video were of blues and/or humpbacks.

Ever since my work at university studying primatology, I have had the opinion that global treaties and world authorities should treat certain intelligent groups of species with the same deference and rights we give to isolated human tribes, to respect their territory and sovereignty. For a decade when I was younger I even went vegetarian until it became apparent that that lifestyle was harming my health.

IMO, all four of the remaining great apes, octopi and cetaceans should be globally recognized for their higher intellectual and spiritual advancement, and cooperate by banning all hunting and encroachment on them and their habitat, with severe sanctions on nations and tribes that violate the sovereignty of these species.

Scientists Discover a 'Phonetic Alphabet' Used by Sperm Whales, Moving One Step Closer to Decoding Their Chatter

Researchers used artificial intelligence to spot patterns in recordings of the marine mammals' vocalizations, uncovering the "building blocks of whale language"

www.smithsonianmag.com

Scientists decode whale language, discover they talk just like humans

Scientists have decoded the language that whales use to communicate with each other in the ocean during social interactions in family groups. Experts used artificial intelligence to study the...

www.thenews.com.pk

AI Decodes Sperm Whale Language, Revealing a Complex System of Communication

Researchers from MIT's CSAIL and Project CETI use machine learning to decode the "sperm whale phonetic alphabet," revealing complex communication patterns, deepening our understanding of animal language systems. This research, which analyzed thousands of codas from Caribbean sperm whales, reveals

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I can't wait till we master this tech and can apologize to them for hunting them in the past, and start a productive dialog with them. They could very will be great assets to help us research the ocean depths of our own world, which we know less about than space.

Maybe they can even give us some insight into the pan-dimensional beings and their high tech craft we know is down there. Who knows? Maybe we will find out that these beings are here primarily to chat with and study them, and not us.

It is nice that AI is finally being used for something enriching.

Star Trek IV is still my favorite of the all the Star Trek movies.

 

[MisterBeale]

Well, terrific

They won’t let me link to the video

The link worked fine, you just can't embed it on here. The free thinkers and intellectually curious will go to the GooTube site to watch, and that may just inhibit the trolls from participation.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Thank you Frank, I don't usually go in for AI videos, especially ones with so low of viewer engagement, but this one was pretty good.

The biggest problem with this video are the images IMO. Project CETI was focused on sperm whales, but the vast majority of images in this video were of blues and/or humpbacks.

Ever since my work at university studying primatology, I have had the opinion that global treaties and world authorities should treat certain intelligent groups of species with the same deference and rights we give to isolated human tribes, to respect their territory and sovereignty. For a decade when I was younger I even went vegetarian until it became apparent that that lifestyle was harming my health.

IMO, all four of the remaining great apes, octopi and cetaceans should be globally recognized for their higher intellectual and spiritual advancement, and cooperate by banning all hunting and encroachment on them and their habitat, with severe sanctions on nations and tribes that violate the sovereignty of these species.

Scientists Discover a 'Phonetic Alphabet' Used by Sperm Whales, Moving One Step Closer to Decoding Their Chatter

Researchers used artificial intelligence to spot patterns in recordings of the marine mammals' vocalizations, uncovering the "building blocks of whale language"

www.smithsonianmag.com

Scientists decode whale language, discover they talk just like humans

Scientists have decoded the language that whales use to communicate with each other in the ocean during social interactions in family groups. Experts used artificial intelligence to study the...

www.thenews.com.pk

AI Decodes Sperm Whale Language, Revealing a Complex System of Communication

Researchers from MIT's CSAIL and Project CETI use machine learning to decode the "sperm whale phonetic alphabet," revealing complex communication patterns, deepening our understanding of animal language systems. This research, which analyzed thousands of codas from Caribbean sperm whales, reveals

scitechdaily.com

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I can't wait till we master this tech and can apologize to them for hunting them in the past, and start a productive dialog with them. They could very will be great assets to help us research the ocean depths of our own world, which we know less about than space.

Maybe they can even give us some insight into the pan-dimensional beings and their high tech craft we know is down there. Who knows? Maybe we will find out that these beings are here primarily to chat with and study them, and not us.

It is nice that AI is finally being used for something enriching.

Star Trek IV is still my favorite of the all the Star Trek movies.

The whales don’t spend their time coming up with better way to kill each other, just us shoe wearing monkeys do that

I’ll probably won’t be here to see it, but we’ll find octopus and squids on most if not all of the water worlds in our solar system. Not because of evolution but because they all arrived here from the same place

 

[buckeye]

Offshore wind turbines are driving whales crazy and killing them. IMHO, this is criminal.

WATCH: "Thrown To The Wind" — Environmental Progress

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[MisterBeale]

The whales don’t spend their time coming up with better way to kill each other, just us shoe wearing monkeys do that

Well, see that's the rub isn't it? Of the four great apes, bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas, the least intellectually and spiritually advanced are the strict vegetarians, the gorilla. I am slowly coming to the opinion that Corvidaervinae should be treated the same as the others in this category. But the only species in that family that seems to also be strictly vegetarian, the nutcracker, likewise seems the least intelligent. Crows and blackbirds OTH? Amazing.

So predation on other animals leads to higher spiritual and intellectual development, yet, it also inevitably leads to more consciousness and enlightenment about such behavior?

To my knowledge, sperm whales main diet consists of another of these species, giant squid. So. . . if we are sinful for our behavior toward whales, they are likewise sinful for theirs toward squid. But since our diet and habit is so diverse, we can abstain from dining on and using another advanced species for our survival, they cannot.

. . . an interesting dilemma to be sure.

Not because of evolution but because they all arrived here from the same place

I know nothing of this speculation, if you could provide more information, that would be great.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Well, see that's the rub isn't it? Of the four great apes, bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas, the least intellectually and spiritually advanced are the strict vegetarians, the gorilla. I am slowly coming to the opinion that Corvidaervinae should be treated the same as the others in this category. But the only species in that family that seems to also be strictly vegetarian, the nutcracker, likewise seems the least intelligent. Crows and blackbirds OTH? Amazing.

So predation on other animals leads to higher spiritual and intellectual development, yet, it also inevitably leads to more consciousness and enlightenment about such behavior?

To my knowledge, sperm whales main diet consists of another of these species, giant squid. So. . . if we are sinful for our behavior toward whales, they are likewise sinful for theirs toward squid. But since our diet and habit is so diverse, we can abstain from dining on and using another advanced species for our survival, they cannot.

. . . an interesting dilemma to be sure.








I know nothing of this speculation, if you could provide more information, that would be great.

Aliens must have a Universe wide comedy show featuring human ignorant arrogance that causes some individuals to die laughing.

My speculation regarding octopus and squid is mostly a sense I have that: they are genetically divergent from most other Earth species, arrived from outer space and are in contact with each other even across truly vast distances

 

[MisterBeale]

Aliens must have a Universe wide comedy show featuring human ignorant arrogance that causes some individuals to die laughing.

Unless they are the folks responsible for our existence? In which case, they might have more insight into who we are than even we do.

There seems to be several schools of thought on this. The first, most mainstream speculation is that the human genetic bottle neck that occurred a million years ago was due to a climatic cause. If we go through periodic climate events like the younger dryas impact hypothesis, it might be related to a cyclical near earth extinction catastrophes due to the orbit of the earth and meteor impacts.

Popular Archeology - Timing of early human population bottleneck

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Another speculation is that our closest relatives, the neanderthals &/or the denisovans used us a prime source of food. The genetic evidence of their interactions and interbreeding (aka rape,) occur in the genetic record. AJ Gentile has a terrific video on this over on his WhyFiles channel.

. . and the third possibility is that some outside intelligence modified the human genetic code as a derivative of either the neanderthals or the denisovans. This is the theory supported by Rogan. If this is the case, I don't think the folks that designed us would at all be surprised by our aggression, territoriality, and arrogance.

 

[Votto]

Well, see that's the rub isn't it? Of the four great apes, bonobos, chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas, the least intellectually and spiritually advanced are the strict vegetarians, the gorilla. I am slowly coming to the opinion that Corvidaervinae should be treated the same as the others in this category. But the only species in that family that seems to also be strictly vegetarian, the nutcracker, likewise seems the least intelligent. Crows and blackbirds OTH? Amazing.

So predation on other animals leads to higher spiritual and intellectual development, yet, it also inevitably leads to more consciousness and enlightenment about such behavior?

To my knowledge, sperm whales main diet consists of another of these species, giant squid. So. . . if we are sinful for our behavior toward whales, they are likewise sinful for theirs toward squid. But since our diet and habit is so diverse, we can abstain from dining on and using another advanced species for our survival, they cannot.

. . . an interesting dilemma to be sure.








I know nothing of this speculation, if you could provide more information, that would be great.

To my knowledge, sperm whales main diet consists of another of these species, giant squid. So. . . if we are sinful for our behavior toward whales, they are likewise sinful for theirs toward squid

What is sin? In addition, how do we assign value to things by saying we should never kill them to avoid such sin?

Do we assign value to things based on intellectual ability?