Can the State of Utah save the world from Bear Market 2026 to 2036?

Could a Utah State Dollar be used to set in motion the paying off of the national debt of the USA?

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I have a suggestion for the residents of the State of Utah. I believe that Utahans are all set up to bring the Kingdom of Heaven closer and closer and closer and closer to this earth.

All over the USA and Canada it is common knowledge that about twenty percent of the economy is some form of volunteerism. I believe that this number may well be even higher in Utah.

We know from how the "Worgl Austria Local Money Experiment" assisted F. D. R. to initiate the New Deal that a local currency or state currency could conceivably be used to organize "volunteerism" in such a way that certain parts of the economy could boom, [and perhaps positively impact other parts of the economy].

Utahans are producing a lot of films that may well increase and increase and increase in value over the coming years, decades and even centuries.

Hundreds or even thousands of Film Production Cooperatives or kibbutzes could be formed in Utah where residents donate their time to produce a film that may not become economically successful soon but after five or ten years that film may well take off. Please think of alternative currency notes or database entries as being "props" in the context of films produced by residents of Utah all over the world.


[The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?
by Francis and Lia Ayley] :

"City in Austria Printed Local Currency
Worgl, like many other European towns and cities, was hit hard by the Great Depression. There was mass unemployment; four of the five local factories had closed, and the people were starving in the streets. Nobody had any money to buy anything. One of the features of an economic depression is that there is not enough money in circulation to ensure that people can meet their basic needs, and in the 1930s, the shortage of currency in many countries of the world became catastrophic.

The mayor of Worgl, together with local businessmen, decided to try to break this economic impasse by creating their own local currency. They printed and issued 60,000 Austrian shillings worth of local currency. These shillings could only be spent in Worgl, so they remained in the local community and were exchanged over and over again.

The positive impact was immediate and surprising to everyone. In only six weeks, unemployment disappeared, all the factories had reopened and everyone had food. For the inhabitants of Worgl, the economic depression was gone. This dramatic transformation became known as the “miracle of Worgl.” Surrounding towns, inspired by the success of Worgl, immediately started printing their own local currencies.

Sadly, the miracle did not last long. When the Austrian Central Bank heard about Worgl’s local currency, they initiated legal proceedings against the mayor and local businessmen. According to Austrian banking law, it was illegal for anyone except the Austrian Central Bank to issue money. The bank won the court case, and the mayor was ordered to shut down the local currency, which he did, under threat of imprisonment. The town then returned to the devastating economic depression of the 1930s, with all the human pain and suffering associated with this catastrophe. Factories closed, and once again, the people starved.

Alternative Currency in the U.S.
Irving Fisher, an American professor of economics at Yale University, visited Worgl before the local currency was suppressed and witnessed the ‘miracle’ firsthand. When he returned to the United States, Fisher spread the word by traveling and lecturing across the country, advocating the use of the Worgl ‘scrip’ everywhere. Inspired by his vision, hundreds of communities began issuing their own currency, and by 1934 there were over 1,000 local communities using ‘scrip’ throughout the U.S.

Every one of these communities experienced a tremendous rejuvenation of their local economies. They thrived while others suffered. Fisher then met with President Franklin D. Roosevelt, proposing the implementation of government-sanctioned local ‘scrip’ in every community in America. When FDR consulted with his top financial advisors and bankers, however, he was advised to shut all the ‘scrip’ systems down, which he did. Instead, he borrowed large amounts of money from bankers, at interest, and used it to pay for the Reconstruction Finance Corporation and the other work-creation projects, which collectively came to be known as the ‘New Deal.’ So ended the last widespread use of a local currency within the U.S.

This pattern of economic collapse and re-emergence of local currencies has occurred thousands of times in many parts of the world. When these currencies have failed or have been suppressed, banks have not always been to blame. Sometimes, local currencies fail because they have been badly designed or implemented. Sometimes, people lose interest in them when the mainstream economy recovers. But they have always returned in one form or another during times of economic failure.

Our present world situation is uniquely different. Despite a relatively prosperous and stable world economy, a quiet monetary revolution has been occurring around the globe over the last 20 years. Awareness is growing about the flaws in our current monetary system, and people are re-creating viable alternatives. We are witnessing for the first time the worldwide creation of money systems designed by the people who use them, instead of by central banks.

Time Dollars in Whatcom County"

[ The Truth About Money: The Money SystemIsnt There a Better Way?
by Francis and Lia Ayley}




Calgary Dollars will give you a good idea about what I am suggesting.


www.CalgaryDollars.ca/
 

Could a Utah State Dollar be used to set in motion the paying off of the national debt of the USA?​


Do they have enough gold and silver coin?
 

Could a Utah State Dollar be used to set in motion the paying off of the national debt of the USA?​


Do they have enough gold and silver coin?
That is an excellent question. Allegorically speaking YES!

The USA, CIA and FBI openly recruit Latter day Saints who have completed their missionary trips to another nation if they have learned a second language.

This has been going on for decades and now they have many agents in the FBI and CIA with decades of experience behind them. Volunteerism by Latter day Saints can be like allegorical "gold" in terms of getting their volunteerism on important topics related to the national security of the USA and all other nations.

Roughly two percent of the population of the Canadian province of Alberta are Latter day Saints. President Donald J. Trump has boosted the level of influence that the Premier of Alberta has in Ottawa. In a way Premier Danielle Smith may have greater real influence on the world state and especially in the USA than P. M. Mark Carney has.

This is especially true of P. M. Mark Carney keeps on DISAGREEING with USA policy and instead siding with Mr. George Soros who in a way is President Trump's greatest rival for President Trump to Make America Great Again!


Prime Minister Mark Carney's September 2025 policy regarding Canada - Israel relations would tend to appeal to billionaire investor George Soros but it would tend to be offensive to the USA - Israel policy put forward by President Donald J. Trump.


 
Tariffs will pay off the deficit. Then the national debt can be reduced.

Wow!

In a way that is theoretically possible if Canada would set a precedent of using the Bank of Canada again as it was used from 1938 to 1974, to loan money to the provinces to assist Canada's provinces to pay off those "Trump Tariffs?"

I believe that elected officials in Ottawa have little choice now but to take another look at rather modern Canadian Central Banking Policy.




[Ms. Betty Krawczyk] :


"
The Bank of Canada was first established by Prime Minister Richard Bennet in 1935 as a private central bank, but was then nationalized by William Lyon Mackenzie King in 1938. By nationalizing the bank, Mackenzie King meant for it to belong to the people so the Canadian government could borrow funds with little or no interest for capital expenditures. The mandate of the newly nationalized Bank of Canada was to act as the banker to the government and to manage the public debt. As Mackenzie King famously said: “Once a nation parts with the control of their currency and credit, it matters not who makes that nation’s laws. Usury, once in control, will wreck any nation. Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.”

So the Bank of Canada was nationalized in 1938 and the government could now borrow money with little or no interest. And it worked. The Canadian government built freeways, public transportation systems, subway line, airports, the St. Lawrence Seaway and funded a national health care system and the Canada Pension Plan. But then Trudeau, under the influence of the international financial group called Basel’s
Committee’s Recommendations (The Basel Committee on Banking Supervision) made the decision to halt the borrowing of money from the Bank of Canada, and instead, chose to borrow from the private banks who instead of lending to the government at no interest, or low interest, introduced higher interest rates along with compound interest.


All banks know very well the magic of compound interest. And Pierre Trudeau must have known that the mounting compounded national debt would lead to Canadians eventually owing a dollar fifty for every dollar of their disposable incomes. After all, he studied economics at the London School of Economics. Surely the professors there knew about compound interest.

So Pierre Trudeau, instead of feeling blessed that Canada, unlike the US, had a nationalized central bank, signed our bank away to the private banks. Couldn’t Trudeau, such an educated man, surmise that citizens in a few years would be struggling to make car payments and meet rent and mortgages and student loans and to buy healthy food while last year’s profits for the big five (that’s Royal Bank, TD Bank, Scotiabank, Bank of Montreal and CIBC amounted to $31.7 billion?) If he did, he didn’t care. But it doesn’t have to be this way. It really doesn’t. Our Bank of
Canada is still there. Next time." (Ms. Betty Krawczyk)




and........

"We never should have privatized our debt and turned it over to the
private banks, we should have kept it in the hands of the Bank of Canada,
at least a major part of it, because then we would have been paying
interest back to ourselves
." (NDP Leader Jack Layton)

Oh Canada Movie 6 - Banking - 5
Just after the 2:20 minute mark in this video interview:

 
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That is an excellent question. Allegorically speaking YES!

The USA, CIA and FBI openly recruit Latter day Saints who have completed their missionary trips to another nation if they have learned a second language.

This has been going on for decades and now they have many agents in the FBI and CIA with decades of experience behind them. Volunteerism by Latter day Saints can be like allegorical "gold" in terms of getting their volunteerism on important topics related to the national security of the USA and all other nations.

Roughly two percent of the population of the Canadian province of Alberta are Latter day Saints. President Donald J. Trump has boosted the level of influence that the Premier of Alberta has in Ottawa. In a way Premier Danielle Smith may have greater real influence on the world state and especially in the USA than P. M. Mark Carney has.

This is especially true of P. M. Mark Carney keeps on DISAGREEING with USA policy and instead siding with Mr. George Soros who in a way is President Trump's greatest rival for President Trump to Make America Great Again!


Prime Minister Mark Carney's September 2025 policy regarding Canada - Israel relations would tend to appeal to billionaire investor George Soros but it would tend to be offensive to the USA - Israel policy put forward by President Donald J. Trump.



Allegorically speaking YES!

State coins have to be actual gold or silver, not allegorical gold or silver.
 
Wow!

In a way that is theoretically possible if Canada would set a precedent of using the Bank of Canada again as it was used from 1938 to 1974, to loan money to the provinces to assist Canada's provinces to pay off those "Trump Tariffs?"

I believe that elected officials in Ottawa have little choice now but to take another look at rather modern Canadian Central Banking Policy.






and........


Oh Canada Movie 6 - Banking - 5
Just after the 2:20 minute mark in this video interview:



Just after the 2:20 minute mark in this video interview:

Thanks for the video. It confirms my original feeling that he's an idiot.
 
Wow!

In a way that is theoretically possible if Canada would set a precedent of using the Bank of Canada again as it was used from 1938 to 1974, to loan money to the provinces to assist Canada's provinces to pay off those "Trump Tariffs?"

I believe that elected officials in Ottawa have little choice now but to take another look at rather modern Canadian Central Banking Policy.






and........


Oh Canada Movie 6 - Banking - 5
Just after the 2:20 minute mark in this video interview:



Paul Martin is correct, and the narrator is a moron.

Private banks don't create money out of thin air; only central banks can do that.
 
Paul Martin is correct, and the narrator is a moron.

Private banks don't create money out of thin air; only central banks can do that.

I am sorry but that is exactly what happens. The narrator is totally accurate but for the elected officials in Canada to virtually stop using the Bank of Canada was an astonishingly unwise decisions but now we are forced to take another look at the whole topic due to the shift that is about to take place in the USA, Canadian and world economy with Artificial Intelligence and robotics.
 
I am sorry but that is exactly what happens. The narrator is totally accurate but for the elected officials in Canada to virtually stop using the Bank of Canada was an astonishingly unwise decisions but now we are forced to take another look at the whole topic due to the shift that is about to take place in the USA, Canadian and world economy with Artificial Intelligence and robotics.

Banks don't create money out of thin air to make loans.
Not even a little bit.
Every loan is fully funded.

The narrator is a moron.
 
Banks don't create money out of thin air to make loans.
Not even a little bit.
Every loan is fully funded.

The narrator is a moron.


If I had to trust your opinion or that of former Canadian Minister of Defense Paul Hellyer I am sorry but I will have to go with Paul.


Monetary reform and Paul Hellyer’s vision for a new social contract​

Christopher Majka
by Christopher MajkaSeptember 30, 2016


Are there any enthusiastic hockey fans in the USA State of Utah and / or in the Canadian province of Alberta?

There is a rumor out there that the large sixteen million strong Latter day Saints church could come up with a billion dollars USA that could be shifted from one type of investment over to other types of investments. The implications of that fact are pretty obvious.


 
If I had to trust your opinion or that of former Canadian Minister of Defense Paul Hellyer I am sorry but I will have to go with Paul.




Are there any enthusiastic hockey fans in the USA State of Utah and / or in the Canadian province of Alberta?

There is a rumor out there that the large sixteen million strong Latter day Saints church could come up with a billion dollars USA that could be shifted from one type of investment over to other types of investments. The implications of that fact are pretty obvious.



Well, that makes sense, Paul is also clueless.
 
Well, that makes sense, Paul is also clueless.

I truly thank you for commenting. Here is another discussion where I would love to get your responses?


It is my belief that national currency notes from Zimbabwe, [or better yet from ARgentina], could in theory be used as "props" in a series of reality and semi-reality science fiction films where a plan is put forward to pay off the national debt of the USA through a database program similar to BitCoin. Watching the documentary "Banking on Bitcoin" is homework if you would like to actually do something about this general idea?





 
If I had to trust your opinion or that of former Canadian Minister of Defense Paul Hellyer I am sorry but I will have to go with Paul.




Are there any enthusiastic hockey fans in the USA State of Utah and / or in the Canadian province of Alberta?

There is a rumor out there that the large sixteen million strong Latter day Saints church could come up with a billion dollars USA that could be shifted from one type of investment over to other types of investments. The implications of that fact are pretty obvious.



At the time of Confederation, Canadian public debt was a mere $94 million. It slowly rose to $2.4 billion by the end of the First World War, to $5 billion during the Great Depression, and to $11 billion by the end of the Second World War. In 1962 it was $14.8 billion and by 1974 it was slightly over $20 billion.

Then look what happens after 1974 after the federal government began borrowing from commercial banks that charge interest. The federal debt skyrocketed — literally exponentially. The Canadian Taxpayer’s Federation’s Debt Clock shows federal debt as over $633.8 billion and increasing every minute of the day.


The debt rose to $633.8 billion because the government spends too much, not because they stopped printing money to pay for projects.
 
I truly thank you for commenting. Here is another discussion where I would love to get your responses?







84 minutes? What's the 20 second idea?
 
At the time of Confederation, Canadian public debt was a mere $94 million. It slowly rose to $2.4 billion by the end of the First World War, to $5 billion during the Great Depression, and to $11 billion by the end of the Second World War. In 1962 it was $14.8 billion and by 1974 it was slightly over $20 billion.

Then look what happens after 1974 after the federal government began borrowing from commercial banks that charge interest. The federal debt skyrocketed — literally exponentially. The Canadian Taxpayer’s Federation’s Debt Clock shows federal debt as over $633.8 billion and increasing every minute of the day.


The debt rose to $633.8 billion because the government spends too much, not because they stopped printing money to pay for projects.


That is an excellent point and is exactly what the people who Sir Winston Churchill referred to as "The High Cabal" want good students of economics like you to believe, but there is far, far, far, far, far more to the problem.

If forty five million Canadians technically....... OWN THEIR OWN BANK OF CANADA....
does it make sense for Canadians to use their own bank at minimum to assist the provinces of Canada to build infrastructure?


At a time like this when Canada must increase robotics and Artificial Intelligence in our industries, is not this a relevant question at minimum?
 
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That is an excellent point and is exactly what the people who Sir Winston Churchill referred to as "The High Cabal" want good students of economics like you to believe, but there is far, far, far, far, far more to the problem.

If forty five million Canadians technically....... OWN THEIR OWN BANK OF CANADA....
does it make sense for Canadians to use their own bank at minimum to assist the provinces of Canada to build infrastructure?


At a time like this when Canada must increase robotics and Artificial Intelligence in our industries, is not this a relevant question at minimum?

If forty five million Canadians technically....... OWN THEIR OWN BANK OF CANADA....
does it make sense for Canadians to use their own bank at minimum to assist the provinces of Canada to build infrastructure?


If the trade-off of much higher inflation is worth the interest "savings", then Canada should do that.
It's probably cheaper to reduce spending instead.

Did you ever figure out how private banks create money to lend?

Try this experiment, a private bank opens and the first customer deposits $1 million.

How much can the bank lend out? Show all the steps.
 
If forty five million Canadians technically....... OWN THEIR OWN BANK OF CANADA....
does it make sense for Canadians to use their own bank at minimum to assist the provinces of Canada to build infrastructure?


If the trade-off of much higher inflation is worth the interest "savings", then Canada should do that.
It's probably cheaper to reduce spending instead.

Did you ever figure out how private banks create money to lend?

Try this experiment, a private bank opens and the first customer deposits $1 million.

How much can the bank lend out? Show all the steps.

Well if cancer is soon beaten then the productivity of all those surviving people who would have been dead under the traditional way of treating cancer, then their extra productivity will tend to decrease inflation.

It seems to me that high ranking officials in the Medical Bureaucracy must be sweating and worried if they are about to be hit with Class Action Lawsuits by a significant percentage of three hundred and fifty million Americans and forty five million Canadians?


This could potentially be the BEST news in terms of economics that we have ever been given. It looks to me as if BigPharma is about to fall and high ranking Medical Bureaucrats will soon be exposed for fraud related to hiding effective treatments for cancer for decades, [but the way that Dr. Tony Fauci handled C o v i d 1 9, sets the stage for the total collapse of the Big Pharma bureaucracy, [which should be good news for all of us who get in on a Class Action Lawsuit against BigPharma.

One angle would be in the two documentaries about Dr. Stanislav Burzynski.

Apparently a high ranking official from the Obama administration visited the Burzynski clinic. admitted that they loved what Dr. Burzynski and his team were doing but....... then they said that they could not support Dr. Burzynski publicly because Wall Street could not survive another 2008.

I am sure that all of you who read this know how this could easily be good news for eighty percent of Canadians and eighty percent of Americans?

Now that Dr. Tony Fauci has played out the role that he played for all the world, we are all now prepared for the good news, Cancer Could Have Been Beaten Decades Ago!

Now with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the White House, the stage is set brilliantly!


 
Well if cancer is soon beaten then the productivity of all those surviving people who would have been dead under the traditional way of treating cancer, then their extra productivity will tend to decrease inflation.

Central banks need to print money and hand it out to fight the deflation caused by curing cancer?

Does Wayne Gretzky agree?
 
Central banks need to print money and hand it out to fight the deflation caused by curing cancer?

Does Wayne Gretzky agree?
I have no idea but I will attempt to get in contact with many of his fans in 2026.
 

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