CA Bill - AB 1333

[Leo123]

Thank God this bill was pulled! This would make it a crime of murder to kill the perp if there was a better way out of a life threatening situation.

https://www.yourcentralvalley.com/news/local-news/law-proposed-self-defense-changed/

The bill was introduced in Feb 21, 2025 by Rick Chavez Zbur whose district is Santa Monica, Beverly Hills, Hollywood and West L.A. and would have affected all of CA.

Seriously, what is this loon thinking? Even legislators in CA could not swallow this turd of a bill. This just proves to me how radical a lot of people in our legislatures have gotten. We really need to wake up before our country goes completely Marxist.

 

[YoursTruly]

What state just acquitted a black man of stabbing someone else who used a racial slur? Oregon, I think.

Bills like this will become law on the west coast, sooner or later.

 

[Leo123]

What state just acquitted a black man of stabbing someone else who used a racial slur? Oregon, I think.

Bills like this will become law on the west coast, sooner or later.

Hopefully not, this one didn't make it and CA. Yet.

 

[YoursTruly]

Hopefully not, this one didn't make it and CA. Yet.

It's already that way in Australia. They brag about their lack of school shootings. And their low gun violence record.

 

[Leo123]

It's already that way in Australia. They brag about their lack of school shootings. And their low gun violence record.

I don't hear them bragging about Bondi Beach.

 

[White 6]

What state just acquitted a black man of stabbing someone else who used a racial slur? Oregon, I think.

Bills like this will become law on the west coast, sooner or later.

Might or might not. In the case you mention, it was not the law, but the jury. He got locked up, charged, (didn't have to post bail) had to have a lawyer, and then went on trial. It pays to have a decent lawyer. He did not go with a court appointed lawyer. He used Daniel Small, a private defense attorney, that got him acquitted by the jury. Looks like you can walk on assault charges in Portland, if you hire a decent attorney. And this is with a guy who has been there before.
Both men, who have struggled through homelessness, are not strangers to the prison system, as they each have been arrested multiple times over the years. In 2012, Edwards was convicted of attempted second-degree assault and was sentenced to three years in prison for another stabbing at the Skidmore Fountain MAX platform in May 2020.

Portland Man Acquitted After Stabbing White Man Who Used Racial Slur Against Him

A Black man, Gary Edwards, was acquitted of assault charges after he stabbed a white man when he uttered the N-word during the incident

www.blackenterprise.com

 

[YoursTruly]

Might or might not. In the case you mention, it was not the law, but the jury. He got locked up, charged, (didn't have to post bail) had to have a lawyer, and then went on trial. It pays to have a decent lawyer. He did not go with a court appointed lawyer. He used Daniel Small, a private defense attorney, that got him acquitted by the jury. Looks like you can walk on assault charges in Portland, if you hire a decent attorney. And this is with a guy who has been there before.
Both men, who have struggled through homelessness, are not strangers to the prison system, as they each have been arrested multiple times over the years. In 2012, Edwards was convicted of attempted second-degree assault and was sentenced to three years in prison for another stabbing at the Skidmore Fountain MAX platform in May 2020.

Portland Man Acquitted After Stabbing White Man Who Used Racial Slur Against Him

A Black man, Gary Edwards, was acquitted of assault charges after he stabbed a white man when he uttered the N-word during the incident

www.blackenterprise.com

Black people almost always get a slap on the wrist. Over and over and over. That guy that stabbed and killed the white girl on the subway, I think he had over 10 crimes before committing this murder.

 

[YoursTruly]

I don't hear them bragging about Bondi Beach.

That's for sure.

 

[White 6]

Black people almost always get a slap on the wrist. Over and over and over. That guy that stabbed and killed the white girl on the subway, I think he had over 10 crimes before committing this murder.

I am pretty conservative regarding laws, justice, punishment for crimes, and protection of society, especially crimes of violence. I do not think most criminal, regardless of skin color, generally are sentenced and incarcerated for anywhere near the time, they deserve. There is entirely too much plea bargaining, low sentences and early release back into society. Good for the happiness of individual criminals, but bad for society, and it is not just by evil Dems. It is across the board, no matter the political persuasion of these "non-political" legal entities making the decisions. There are too many prosecutors, too willing to settle by a simply plea, to save work, money and courtroom time, accepting plea to lessor offenses, for the easy win. There are too many parole boards, granting early release to free up space, regardless of crimes committed. It is unfair to innocents in society harmed by original crime, and dangerous to society, due to criminals returning to crime, as punishment did not reform.

I will say, administration of parole is uniformly god-awful across states and a money making venture, more directed at collecting fees, than transitioning, even reformed criminals back into productive society.

 

[YoursTruly]

I am pretty conservative regarding laws, justice, punishment for crimes, and protection of society, especially crimes of violence. I do not think most criminal, regardless of skin color, generally are sentenced and incarcerated for anywhere near the time, they deserve. There is entirely too much plea bargaining, low sentences and early release back into society. Good for the happiness of individual criminals, but bad for society, and it is not just by evil Dems. It is across the board, no matter the political persuasion of these "non-political" legal entities making the decisions. There are too many prosecutors, too willing to settle by a simply plea, to save work, money and courtroom time, accepting plea to lessor offenses, for the easy win. There are too many parole boards, granting early release to free up space, regardless of crimes committed. It is unfair to innocents in society harmed by original crime, and dangerous to society, due to criminals returning to crime, as punishment did not reform.

I will say, administration of parole is uniformly god-awful across states and a money making venture, more directed at collecting fees, than transitioning, even reformed criminals back into productive society.

One of the biggest problems with our justice system is that there's a time frame/limit on incarcerations. Those that go in, who are unfit for society, probably won't be any more fit for society when he comes out. More get into trouble after being set free than not.

These yearly sentences need to stop. Everyone get's life, with the exception of those who can be rehabilitated. Making it their decision as to whether they get out or not.

A criminal get's sent to prison with the mindset that he'll be there until he dies, unless he can be rehabilitated. That would change the way prisoners think & act in prison. At least most of them.
Those in prison who are actually trying, are separated from those who are not.

 

[White 6]

One of the biggest problems with our justice system is that there's a time frame/limit on incarcerations. Those that go in, who are unfit for society, probably won't be any more fit for society when he comes out. More get into trouble after being set free than not.

These yearly sentences need to stop. Everyone get's life, with the exception of those who can be rehabilitated. Making it their decision as to whether they get out or not.

A criminal get's sent to prison with the mindset that he'll be there until he dies, unless he can be rehabilitated. That would change the way prisoners think & act in prison. At least most of them.
Those in prison who are actually trying, are separated from those who are not.

I don't really know, how it would be done, but I have wondered if, when a violent prisoner is given long sentences, he only served a year in the original prison, he is sent to, then transferred to a better or worse prison, depending on his actions, while incarcerated. The goal would be better work toward rehabilitation, meriting better conditions, the process continuing throughout his incarceration period. If making progress, on then 3yr basis, continuing to be transferred to better conditions, all the way to minimal security, by the time he got released. If not suitable for transfer to better, less confined, more freedoms institutions, automatically transferred to worse. The goal being, nobody gets out, unless rehabilitated enough to qualify for minimal security and minimal security facilities, being the only one parole boards granted release from. Any infractions or poor performance, along the way, getting them sent back to the top tier worst prison environments to work their way back to acceptable behavior and attitudes.