Bitcoin is down over $5,000 this morning

OUCH!

Somebody wins, somebody loses.
Farmers are part of the losers, again.
Cattle and hog markets continue to drop.
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So, are grain prices for producers, though grocery prices continue to rise.
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Is this an anti-Trump posting? I'm not sure what you're saying. OK - Cattle is down, the question is why is it down? People switching to chicken?

If it's tariff related, shouldn't the price of beef have gone up, not down?
Just economics. Farmers screwed, supposedly controlling the resource, where the middlemen, make the profits, and costs of production continue to rise due to input costs, and many markets manipulated for political benefit by big government.
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Just economics. Farmers screwed, supposedly controlling the resource, where the middlemen, make the profits, and costs of production continue to rise due to input costs, and many markets manipulated for political benefit by big government.
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The USDA data from October 2025 shows that feed costs have averaged $9.38 per hundredweight, down from the peaks of $12+ in 2022-2023. Despite this decrease, operations from Wisconsin to California report tighter margins than during the height of feed inflation. The reasons behind this include a 20% increase in labor costs, a 23% rise in equipment expenses, and cooperative deductions that can reach $2-3 per hundredweight. These factors have made it challenging for farmers to achieve the expected profitability despite the reduced feed costs.


A couple weeks back the girl at the local co-op told me feed prices were down.

Reading the above in blue, if true, tells me someone in "farmerland" is full of shit.

Please to tell me when farmer did not ***** about their lot in life?

Standing there next to their new F350 and whining "I buy at retail and sell at wholesale" makes me want to puke coat hangers.
 
I have no idea how it works either and I don`t want to know or care.
Bitcoin's nothing more than a gamble, and I've never touched it. Its supporters will tell you it's undervalued and going to $200k. Detractors and skeptics will say it's going to $0.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but 5K swings in Bitcoin are pretty "normal" aren't they?
Yup. And every time we see one, naysayers predict doom and gloom. But investors buy the dip and we move on. Bitcoin, unlike most investment vehicles, doesn't have any infrastructure in place to buffer swings in the market. So we see the full impact of investor fickleness.
 
Bitcoin's nothing more than a gamble, and I've never touched it. Its supporters will tell you it's undervalued and going to $200k. Detractors and skeptics will say it's going to $0.
This could be a move to devalue it prior to massive buy orders. On the other hand, it is running contrary to precious metals. Has Bitcoin lost its luster?
 
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I don't have any room for it in my safe. Already full of gold and silver.






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Reminds me of the old guy that used to run a pawn shop in town. He was a big Civil War collector and I took a two-piece (tongue & wreath) CS belt buckle I dug into him to see if he knew what state it was made in. He told me to come in the back and went and opened his safe.

There were stacks and stacks of old $20.00 gold pieces in there stacked about 15 coins high five rows deep and he started cussing as he moved the piles out of the way to get to a tin box behind them.....Full of Confederate buckles!....Must have been 30 of them in there.....He dug around a bit and came up with the brother to my buckle.

Yep! Made in South Carolina, I thought so!......I bet at today's prices that tin box of buckles would be worth 100K+ given their nice condition and some super rare ones.
 
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