Are ordinary Palestinians being used as "sacrificial pawns" by Russia?

Has Palestinians leaders turned ordinary Palestinians into "sacrificial pawns" for Russian Atheists?

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Are ordinary Palestinians being used to play the role of "sacrificial pawns" by powerful people who were working out of Russia?

Are ordinary Palestinians working to assist Atheists in Russia win against Jews in Israel and against Christians in America?

Isn't this sort of thing somewhat against many Sura's in the Koran?




In a August 24, 2006 article entitled, "Russian Footprints", Ion Mihai Pacepa writes:

By the end of the 1960s, the KGB was deeply involved in mass terrorism against Jews, carried out by various Palestinian client organizations. Here are some terrorist actions for which the KGB took credit while I was still in Romania: November 1969, armed attack on the El Al office in Athens, leaving 1 dead and 14 wounded; May 30, 1972, Ben Gurion Airport attack, leaving 22 dead and 76 wounded; December 1974, Tel Aviv movie theater bomb, leaving 2 dead and 66 wounded; March 1975, attack on a Tel Aviv hotel, leaving 25 dead and 6 wounded; May 1975, Jerusalem bomb, leaving 1 dead and 3 wounded; July 4, 1975, bomb in Zion Square, Jerusalem, leaving 15 dead and 62 wounded; April 1978, Brussels airport attack, leaving 12 wounded; May 1978, attack on an El Al plane in Paris, leaving 12 wounded. ... In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov told me, a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States. No one within the American/Zionist sphere of influence should any longer feel safe.
  • 1970 - Yasser Arafat, the father of modern terrorism:
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    In 1970 the Kremlin became interested in an obscure Arab construction engineer and collector of racecars, named Rahman al-Qudwa. Evidence shows, contrary to later claims, that this "construction engineer" was an Egyptian, born in Cairo during the summer of 1929. Rahman graduated from the University of Cairo and served as an officer in the Egyptian Army during the 1956 Suez campaign. Later he set up a business in Kuwait and made a fortune. He then entered politics, founding a hopelessly small terrorist organization.... According to the former head of Romanian intelligence, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, one of the highest ranking communist defectors of all time, Rahman al-Qudwa became an important political ally of the communist bloc following the death of Egypt's president, Gamal Abdul Nasser, in 1970. Gen. Pacepa's account of Rahman's intimate relations with the communist bloc is related in a book entitled "Red Horizons."... Rahman al-Qudwa is better known as Yasser Arafat, the chairman of the PLO since 1968 and the president of the Palestinian Authority -- which is now at war with Israel. According to Gen. Pacepa's account, communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu ordered his people to bring Arafat over to Romania. In late 1970 the chief of Romanian intelligence in Egypt, Gen. Constantine Munteanu, arrived in Bucharest with Arafat in tow. Munteanu had gathered an extensive file on Arafat, which characterized the PLO leader as "so much cleverness, blood, and filth all together in one man." Pacepa says that this was Munteanu's "standard definition of Arafat."
    Given Gen. Munteanu's extensive file, Arafat could not exactly refuse the communist's "friendly" overtures. There is little question that Arafat is fanatically devoted to destroying Israel, and would sell his soul to the devil to gain his devilish ends. Therefore, a compact between Arafat and the Soviet Union via communist Romania was not something that violated any sacred Islamic rule in Arafat's heart. Arafat is no Moslem. His fanaticism is completely secular. But since he operates within the Islamic world, he must sometimes appear as a would-be Muslim liberator. (“Kremlin puppets and how they work,” J.R. Nyquist, October 19, 2000) (read also Our Lady of the Roses prophecy about one who would come out of Egypt...)
  • 1972 - According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”
  • 1973 - Soviet statements and preparations for an attack against Israel led the Pentagon to order U.S. nuclear forces to the highest state of peacetime readiness. The Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the 82nd Airborne Division to prepare to head to the Middle East, and additional U.S. naval forces -- including American aircraft carriers -- moved into the Mediterranean, all out of a real and rising concern that the Soviets were about to make an unprecedented military move against Israel.
  • 1982 - Israeli forces battling PLO terrorists in southern Lebanon unexpectedly uncovered a secret but massive cache of Soviet weaponry in deep underground cellars and tunnels. The storehouses contained some 4,000 tons of ammunition, 144 armored vehicles and tanks, 12,500 pieces of small arms, and 515 heavy weapons. Then-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin said that the Russians had prepositioned enough weapons to "equip not five brigades, but five or six [Soviet] divisions," adding that "we shall need literally thousands of trucks to evacuate these weapons from Lebanon."


Here is a writing by 1992 near death experiencer Robert Mendelson who was shown a way to give a One State Solution to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict.

His booklet has already been translated into Arabic and Hebrew by some of his supporters.

[Robert Mendelson] :


http://godspeaceplan.org/books-download-page/
Book DownloadsGod's Peace Plan for the Holy Land and Others
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Title Version
God's Peace Plan Arabic God's Peace Plan Arabic Version (final)
God's Peace Plan English God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land
God's Peace Plan Hebrew God's Peace Plan Hebrew Version (final)
Way of Holiness and the Sacred Hoop Way of Holiness & the Sacred Hoop
What's Going On in the Holy Land What_s Going On In The Holy Land
Map of the Holy Land Map of the Holy Land
Map of the Holy Land Map of the Holy Land (Arabic & Hebrew)

God's Peace Plan

for the Holy Land

A Peace Plan for Israel/Palestine

conforming to guidelines from the Bible and Qur’an

presented by


Robert Leon Mendelson

Copyright December 2010.

......
Preface



“God’s Peace for the Holy Land*”? Isn’t that a presumptuous title? Please allow

me to explain. First, since the sacred books of Judaism, Christianity and Islam

provide the guidelines supporting this solution, and since I wasn’t the one who

wrote them, calling them “God’s” seems fair. That’s why the words “presented by”

precede my name on the title page. Second, this book in no way proselytizes or

puts one religion above another. Nor does it openly or subtly encourage anyone to

convert to anything. What it does is take into account something without which

attaining peace in the Holy Land (Israel/Palestine) will forever be unattainable.

That “something” is the sacred messages delivered to each of the peoples involved

in the dispute. In this case, referencing the sacred books is more than some dry,

scholarly exercise or even a gesture of courtesy. Without taking the sacred books

into account, peace in the Holy Land will be near, if not completely, impossible.


What it boils down to is this: there are two groups of people, Palestinians and

Ashkenazi Jews (a.k.a. “Khazars”/“Eastern European Jews”) living in the Holy Land

and who appear to be genetically unrelated. In general, the belief systems

(religions) of both groups seem to direct them to subjugate and/or expel the other

group based on their being alien interlopers. Since millions of participants believe

this, and because their beliefs lead to acts of violence, finding a solution that

permits peace requires referencing their sacred literature.



Some may say the conflict has nothing to do with religion, but if this were so,

Jews wouldn’t claim “God gave us this land”. There’d be no point in doing so if it

had no importance to people. And Iran, a Persian nation, would have little interest

in a conflict concerning Semitic peoples several hundred miles away. It’s the

religious connection that brings Muslims of diverse backgrounds together in

support of Palestinians. Nor would millions of American Christians support Israel

without that support based on how they’re taught to read their Bibles." (Robert Mendelson)

Next, we come to Islam and most Palestinians.

Sura 29:46;
Dispute not…with people of the Book;

And say ye, "We believe in what hath been sent down to us
[Qur’an]

and what hath been sent down to you. [Old & New Testaments]

Our God and your God is one,..."
Sura 2:136;
Say ye: "We believe in God,

and that which hath been sent down to us
[Qur’an],

and that which hath been sent down to Abraham

and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes
[Joshua],

and in that was given to Moses, and to Jesus,

and that which was given to the prophets, from their Lord.

No difference do we make between any of them."
There are many other instances in which Muhammad told his people that

the books of the Bible were confirmed. Again, one can argue theology, but

Muslims have a choice as to whether they wish to read the Qur’an for life or

for death. Making use of the Old Testament for a solution meant for the

members of both tribes currently in the Holy Land in no way places Muslims

in other lands under any constraints in their own land. The following passage

is quite specific regarding the value of the Old Testament—properly applied;


Sura 46:12;
But before the Koran was the Book of Moses, a rule and a mercy;

and this Book confirmeth it (the Pentateuch)—in the Arabic tongue—

that those who are guilty of that wrong may be warned,

and as glad tidings to the doers of good."
“glad tidings” to “doers of good”. Muslims are supposed to be “doers of good”.

Using Old Testament Law for the descendents of those it was originally given to

in the same land in which it was originally received doesn’t violate shariah in the

least. Muhammad recited a verse including a reference to David (from the Bible)


Sura 6:85;
And we gave him Isaac and Jacob, and guided both aright;

and We had guided…among the descendants of Abraham, David …”
David said something pertinent to the situation:

Psalm 19:9-11, David;
9…The ordinances of the LORD are sure and altogether righteous.

10 They are more precious than gold, than much pure gold;

they are sweeter than honey, than honey from the comb.


11 By them is your servant warned;

in keeping them there is great reward.”
And last, an Old Testament prophecy of particular interest for Muslims

throughout the Middle East from Isaiah…

Isaiah 19:25;
The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying,

"Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria
[Iraq] my handiwork,

and Israel my inheritance."

There is value for all people to make use of this wonderful tool for peace.

Without it, well, the next two passages sum up what Muslims will do.

The first passage explains how the situation in the Holy Land is seen by

Muslims worldwide and how it effects their relations with America.


Sura 60:7-9;
7 God will, perhaps, establish good will between yourselves

and those of them whom ye take to be your enemies:

God is powerful: and God is gracious, merciful.


8 God doth not forbid you to deal with kindness and fairness

towards those who have not made war upon you on account of your religion,

or driven you forth from your homes:

for God loveth those who act with fairness.




9 Only doth God forbid you to make friends of those who,

on account of your religion,

have warred against you,

and have driven you forth from your homes,

and have aided
[America & the West] those [Israel] whom drove you forth:

and whoever maketh friends of them are wrongdoers."
Palestinians weren’t allowed to return to their homes after the war in 1948.

Then, after the 1967 war, more Palestinians were displaced. The majority of

Palestinians are Muslims, and whether rightly or wrongly, injustices committed

by Israel against Palestinians are perceived as injustices against Muslims as a

religion. According to this belief, verse 9 forbids all Muslims from making peace

with either Israel or anyone who supports Israel until this issue is resolved.

To understand what this next one is saying, understand that when Jews follow

the Torah and Old Testament, they’re included as “faithful”, too.


Sura 49:9-10;
9 If two bodies of the faithful are at war,

then make ye peace between them;

and if one of them wrong the other,

fight against that party which doth the wrong,

until they come back to the precepts of God;

if they come back, make peace between them with fairness,

and act impartially; God loveth those who act with impartiality.


10 Only the faithful [those who obey God's statutes] are brethren;

wherefore make peace between your brethren;

and fear God, that ye may obtain mercy."
The command to Muslims is for un-ending war until all parties abide by the

“precepts of God”. For Israelites, the precepts for sharing the land were placed

in the Old Testament. There was no need for covenants regarding land sharing

in the Holy Land to be duplicated in the Qur’an. Nor does referencing them in

any way make a Muslim disobedient to God. On the contrary—it enables them

to receive God’s mercy." (Robert Mendelson)
 
Are ordinary Palestinians being used to play the role of "sacrificial pawns" by powerful people who were working out of Russia?

Are ordinary Palestinians working to assist Atheists in Russia win against Jews in Israel and against Christians in America?

Isn't this sort of thing somewhat against many Sura's in the Koran?







Here is a writing by 1992 near death experiencer Robert Mendelson who was shown a way to give a One State Solution to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict.

His booklet has already been translated into Arabic and Hebrew by some of his supporters.

Putin wants poke 47 while at the same time forcing Israel into a corner. Whatever the cost to the Palestinians.
 
Putin wants poke 47 while at the same time forcing Israel into a corner. Whatever the cost to the Palestinians.

I agree with you, President Putin does secretly want to poke at President Trump and the more Palestinian people play out the role of Sacrificial Lambs, the better that Putin and many influential people around him will like it.

This whole situation is extremely sad though considering the full scope of who the Palestinian people are probably descended from?


 


Actually this is the type of "Zionism" that is being promoted by a tiny group of Israelis known as The Eruv Rav. I believe that they are the Jewish version of a similar group of people in London that Sir Winston Churchill termed The High Cabal.

Every nation has a group of people who are involved with at least one of the tentacles that emerge from this tiny group of people who likely believe in a variation of "Malthusianism" or "Neo-Malthusianism."



Who is The Erev Rav? Do they 'run' the world? Are they an evil regime with a lot of power? - Part 1​

 
Actually this is the type of "Zionism" that is being promoted by a tiny group of Israelis known as The Eruv Rav. I believe that they are the Jewish version of a similar group of people in London that Sir Winston Churchill termed The High Cabal.
Same thing in todays Ukraine.
 
Same thing in todays Ukraine.
True, it seems to me as if the leader of the Ukranians is being paid an astonishing amount of money from many sources for "Money Laundering, " to keep sending Ukranian soldiers against Russia? Some of the Ukranians are truly volunteers but I suspect that a high percentage of them were given little choice except to become soldiers.

My suspicion is that Zelensky didn't want any variation of a President Trump peace between Russia and the Ukraine due to what he was raking in from money laundering to keep the war going.
 
Are ordinary Palestinians being used to play the role of "sacrificial pawns" by powerful people who were working out of Russia?

Are ordinary Palestinians working to assist Atheists in Russia win against Jews in Israel and against Christians in America?

Isn't this sort of thing somewhat against many Sura's in the Koran?







Here is a writing by 1992 near death experiencer Robert Mendelson who was shown a way to give a One State Solution to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict.

His booklet has already been translated into Arabic and Hebrew by some of his supporters.
Well if you go by the Koran, the land belongs to the Jews, and there is no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian, which is factually and historically true. The Koran is 100% Zionist, in the very first pages of the Koran it tells the story of Exodus and how the Jews made it to the promised land where they are to live there forever, and to never leave it. This is in fact a commandment given to the Jews, according to the Koran. In fact the Koran is so Zionist that it made Moses a prophet due to Exodus.

So we have a situation where on one hand we have derelicts and ignorant morons that keep telling us about this bullshit indigenous Palestinian people, and on the other hand their own Final Messenger of Islam aka prophet Mohammed did not see, record, mention or observe such a thing as a Palestinian people circa 1400 years ago. But he mentions the Jew people as “bani Israel” (people of Israel) and clearly give the land to them.

So the Story of Exodus and Zionism, is a foundational principle of an Islam.
 
Well if you go by the Koran, the land belongs to the Jews, and there is no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian, which is factually and historically true. The Koran is 100% Zionist, in the very first pages of the Koran it tells the story of Exodus and how the Jews made it to the promised land where they are to live there forever, and to never leave it. This is in fact a commandment given to the Jews, according to the Koran. In fact the Koran is so Zionist that it made Moses a prophet due to Exodus.

So we have a situation where on one hand we have derelicts and ignorant morons that keep telling us about this bullshit indigenous Palestinian people, and on the other hand their own Final Messenger of Islam aka prophet Mohammed did not see, record, mention or observe such a thing as a Palestinian people circa 1400 years ago. But he mentions the Jew people as “bani Israel” (people of Israel) and clearly give the land to them.

So the Story of Exodus and Zionism, is a foundational principle of an Islam.

You have an excellent point that the Koran, if it is understood properly, does identify the Holy Land as being for the Jews.

I am of the belief that actual Muslims, and real Christians would tend to support the construction of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex so that Zechariah chapter fourteen can finally come to pass.

This world needs "Moshiach ben David" as the Jews term Him, [I believe that they are talking about Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, Messiah the Passover Lamb, when they say Moshiach ben David]."


 
Well if you go by the Koran, the land belongs to the Jews, and there is no such thing as a Palestine or Palestinian, which is factually and historically true. The Koran is 100% Zionist, in the very first pages of the Koran it tells the story of Exodus and how the Jews made it to the promised land where they are to live there forever, and to never leave it. This is in fact a commandment given to the Jews, according to the Koran. In fact the Koran is so Zionist that it made Moses a prophet due to Exodus.

So we have a situation where on one hand we have derelicts and ignorant morons that keep telling us about this bullshit indigenous Palestinian people, and on the other hand their own Final Messenger of Islam aka prophet Mohammed did not see, record, mention or observe such a thing as a Palestinian people circa 1400 years ago. But he mentions the Jew people as “bani Israel” (people of Israel) and clearly give the land to them.

So the Story of Exodus and Zionism, is a foundational principle of an Islam.


The Qur'an relates the words by which Moses ordered the Israelites to conquer the Land:

"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]
Moreover - and those who try to use Islam as a weapon against Israel always conveniently ignore this point - the Holy Qur'an explicitly refers to the return of the Jews to the Land of Israel before the Last Judgment - where it says: "And thereafter We [Allah] said to the Children of Israel: 'Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd.'" [Qur'an 17:104]

Therefore, from an Islamic point of view, there is NO fundamental reason which prohibits Muslims from recognizing Israel as a friendly State.

Moreover, the Qur'an expressly recognizes that Jerusalem plays for Jews the same role that Mecca does for Muslims.

We read:

"...They would not follow thy direction of prayer (qiblah), nor art thou to follow their direction of prayer; nor indeed will they follow each other's direction of prayer..." (5)
All Qur'anic commentators explain that "thy qiblah" [direction of prayer for Muslims] is clearly the Ka'bah of Mecca, while "their qiblah" [direction of prayer for Jews] refers to the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

To quote only one of the most important Muslim commentators, we read in Qadn Baydawn's Commentary:

"Verily, in their prayers Jews orientate themselves toward the Rock (sakhrah), while Christians orientate themselves eastwards..." (6)
In complete opposition to what "Islamic" fundamentalists continuously claim, the Book of Islam [the Qur'an] - as we have just now seen - recognizes Jerusalem as the Jewish direction of prayer.

Some Muslim commentators also quote the Book of Daniel (7) as a proof for this.
 
You have an excellent point that the Koran, if it is understood properly, does identify the Holy Land as being for the Jews.

I am of the belief that actual Muslims, and real Christians would tend to support the construction of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex so that Zechariah chapter fourteen can finally come to pass.

This world needs "Moshiach ben David" as the Jews term Him, [I believe that they are talking about Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, Messiah the Passover Lamb, when they say Moshiach ben David]."


Correct, Kings David and Solomon are prophets of Islam. Guess where the Koran says these two lived? Yup, it wasn’t Palestine.
 
Correct, Kings David and Solomon are prophets of Islam. Guess where the Koran says these two lived? Yup, it wasn’t Palestine.


And it is also interesting that the Koran identifies ancient King Cyrus of the Medo - Persian Empire as being a Muslim, [by definition], due to how King Cyrus, although he was not Jewish, performed a service for the Jewish people that inspired the Rabbi's to give him the title "Moshiach" much like was given to King Saul, King David, King Solomon, King Hezekiah, King Josiah and several others.


I believe that the Muslim tendency to recognize a modern "Cyrus" could be the key to Shalom in the Middle East and a shift even in the way that Russia has been approaching the nation of Israel and their ally America.

I put the following in the "Conspiracy Theories" forum because I plead guilty personally to haveing something of a conspiracy to turn many influential Trump haters, into at minimum closet Trump supporters.


 
And it is also interesting that the Koran identifies ancient King Cyrus of the Medo - Persian Empire as being a Muslim, [by definition], due to how King Cyrus, although he was not Jewish, performed a service for the Jewish people that inspired the Rabbi's to give him the title "Moshiach" much like was given to King Saul, King David, King Solomon, King Hezekiah, King Josiah and several others.


I believe that the Muslim tendency to recognize a modern "Cyrus" could be the key to Shalom in the Middle East and a shift even in the way that Russia has been approaching the nation of Israel and their ally America.

I put the following in the "Conspiracy Theories" forum because I plead guilty personally to haveing something of a conspiracy to turn many influential Trump haters, into at minimum closet Trump supporters.


King Cyrus was definitely not a Muslim, since Islam came about a thousand years after him. Persia was a great empire with a great people before the stench of Islam invaded it.
 
Palestinian Israeli collaborator liquidated, they don't come any lower than this filth.
It’s always a good thing when Palestinian animals are busy killing each other rather than the infidel kuffars. This is called leaving them to their own devices and cultural tendencies. Bunch of medieval savages.
 
King Cyrus was definitely not a Muslim, since Islam came about a thousand years after him. Persia was a great empire with a great people before the stench of Islam invaded it.

But in a way it is a potentially positive thing related to our time period if Muslim theologians do think of King Cyrus as having been a Muslim by definition.

That fact can be important over the coming months, years and even decades.


 
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