Archdiocese Pays for Health Plan That Covers Birth Control

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/n...ng-for-birth-control.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Remember when Obama was forcing Religious groups to do something they didn't want to do. Turns out they been doing it for at least a decade.

But even as Cardinal Dolan insists that requiring some religiously affiliated employers to pay for contraception services would be an unprecedented, and intolerable, government intrusion on religious liberty, the archdiocese he heads has quietly been paying for such coverage, albeit reluctantly and indirectly, for thousands of its unionized employees for over a decade.

The Archdiocese of New York has previously acknowledged that some local Catholic institutions offer health insurance plans that include contraceptive drugs to comply with state law; now, it is also acknowledging that the archdiocese’s own money is used to pay for a union health plan that covers contraception and even abortion for workers at its affiliated nursing homes and clinics.

“We provide the services under protest,” said Joseph Zwilling, a spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York.

 

[martybegan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/n...ng-for-birth-control.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Remember when Obama was forcing Religious groups to do something they didn't want to do. Turns out they been doing it for at least a decade.

But even as Cardinal Dolan insists that requiring some religiously affiliated employers to pay for contraception services would be an unprecedented, and intolerable, government intrusion on religious liberty, the archdiocese he heads has quietly been paying for such coverage, albeit reluctantly and indirectly, for thousands of its unionized employees for over a decade.

The Archdiocese of New York has previously acknowledged that some local Catholic institutions offer health insurance plans that include contraceptive drugs to comply with state law; now, it is also acknowledging that the archdiocese’s own money is used to pay for a union health plan that covers contraception and even abortion for workers at its affiliated nursing homes and clinics.

“We provide the services under protest,” said Joseph Zwilling, a spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York.

What part of "under protest" do you not get?

More than likely they are forced to by state/local law.

 

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/n...ng-for-birth-control.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Remember when Obama was forcing Religious groups to do something they didn't want to do. Turns out they been doing it for at least a decade.

But even as Cardinal Dolan insists that requiring some religiously affiliated employers to pay for contraception services would be an unprecedented, and intolerable, government intrusion on religious liberty, the archdiocese he heads has quietly been paying for such coverage, albeit reluctantly and indirectly, for thousands of its unionized employees for over a decade.

The Archdiocese of New York has previously acknowledged that some local Catholic institutions offer health insurance plans that include contraceptive drugs to comply with state law; now, it is also acknowledging that the archdiocese’s own money is used to pay for a union health plan that covers contraception and even abortion for workers at its affiliated nursing homes and clinics.

“We provide the services under protest,” said Joseph Zwilling, a spokesman for the Archdiocese of New York.

What part of "under protest" do you not get?

More than likely they are forced to by state/local law.

Bruce McIver, the president of the league since 1991, said he recalled that some Catholic organizations had expressed concern about paying for the contraception benefits in the mid- to late 1990s. But in recent years, as the number of Catholic hospitals in the city dwindled, “they just kind of stopped, from my perspective, paying attention to this issue,” he said.

“Eventually, the Catholics just said, you know, we are going to ignore the issue and pay into the fund and people are going to make their own choices about contraception and so forth,” Mr. McIver said.

During union negotiations, “I don’t remember it coming up in the last dozen years or so, ever,” he said. “In a place like New York, their employees, not all of whom are Catholic, would react pretty badly.”

This part

 

[martybegan]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/n...ng-for-birth-control.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


Remember when Obama was forcing Religious groups to do something they didn't want to do. Turns out they been doing it for at least a decade.

What part of "under protest" do you not get?

More than likely they are forced to by state/local law.

Bruce McIver, the president of the league since 1991, said he recalled that some Catholic organizations had expressed concern about paying for the contraception benefits in the mid- to late 1990s. But in recent years, as the number of Catholic hospitals in the city dwindled, “they just kind of stopped, from my perspective, paying attention to this issue,” he said.

“Eventually, the Catholics just said, you know, we are going to ignore the issue and pay into the fund and people are going to make their own choices about contraception and so forth,” Mr. McIver said.

During union negotiations, “I don’t remember it coming up in the last dozen years or so, ever,” he said. “In a place like New York, their employees, not all of whom are Catholic, would react pretty badly.”

This part

Still does not address the "under protest" part, and it is one thing for an organization to do something willingly, its another to be forced to do it.

We all know that the end game is to force catholic/religous organizations to fund/perform abortions.

 

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No what we do know is that the church was crying that Obama care was going to make them do something they are against. Lo and behold they have been doing that for 10 years already!!

They can say it's under protest...but if that was the case they would have brought it up previously (but they didn't) or they would shut it down (which they haven't).

 

[martybegan]

No what we do know is that the church was crying that Obama care was going to make them do something they are against. Lo and behold they have been doing that for 10 years already!!

They can say it's under protest...but if that was the case they would have brought it up previously (but they didn't) or they would shut it down (which they haven't).

Again, being forced to do something is different than doing it voluntarily.

And i notice you dodged my abortion provision statement.

 

[Katzndogz]

Religious groups have been forced to do something they didn't want to do is justification for forcing more religious groups to do what they don't want to do too!

Yes, that makes perfect sense - to a liberal.

 

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No what we do know is that the church was crying that Obama care was going to make them do something they are against. Lo and behold they have been doing that for 10 years already!!

They can say it's under protest...but if that was the case they would have brought it up previously (but they didn't) or they would shut it down (which they haven't).

Again, being forced to do something is different than doing it voluntarily.

And i notice you dodged my abortion provision statement.

Really the end game is to rule the kingdom of heaven Just because you make something up doesn't mean it has to be considered when it's just crazy talk

 

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Religious groups have been forced to do something they didn't want to do is justification for forcing more religious groups to do what they don't want to do too!

Yes, that makes perfect sense - to a liberal.

No one Is forcing them to do anything

 

[Greenbeard]

Well, somebody's going to Hell over this one.