Annutities............anybody have this setup with their retirement portfolio?

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I just realized, there is no "MONEY" thread on this site. Hmmmm.
Oh well.

I received an online survey today about "buying secure retirement payments".
I tried researching this, as the survey was just basic/vague questions.

All I got from my online search was "annuities". So, after reading the description, I'm very curious about this.

Does anybody here live on retirement annuities? If so, I have questions!!!!

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Yes, Im worried as a snowball in hell.
 
I have actually looked into annuities myself, and I think that they are a wonderful, brilliant concept. But they wouldn't sell any to me, because I wasn't old enough.
 
I have actually looked into annuities myself, and I think that they are a wonderful, brilliant concept. But they wouldn't sell any to me, because I wasn't old enough.
How old do you have to be?
 
Hmm...honestly I don't quite remember, I think it was either 65 or 75? I actually wasn't that young either, I was in my 40s but to them that was still too young.
Well, from what I understand about what I read.........you can save up for it or pad your retirement account until such time as you can buy annuities. So thats one of my questions.

Unfortunately, I have a friend who understands all this stuff, but his wife is Democrat and forced him to stop having anything to do with me. So I can't ask him about this and explain it to me.
 
Hmm...honestly I don't quite remember, I think it was either 65 or 75? I actually wasn't that young either, I was in my 40s but to them that was still too young.
Generally, annuities can be purchased at any age if there is a need for it. Structured settlements for children is an example. The type of annuity would matter as the judge would be in charge of making sure the appropriate annuity is needed
Most companies would rather you wait until at least the age of 50. Most will sell at age 45. There are a variety of annuities:
1. Straight annuities - money is held in the general account of the company and generally receives a low interest rate.
2. Variable annuities (VA) - money is held in a separate account and cannot be used to pay the company's liabilities. The money is invested in "Investment" funds that work like mutual funds. The difference is that with mutual funds, you are the shareholder of the stocks of the funds. The VA Investment funds stocks are owned by the insurance company. Also, dividends are generally not passed back to your accounts in VAs but are in Mutual funds.
3. Indexed annuities (IA) - The separate account investment is based on the growth and value of an index like the S&P500 index. With these, you may receive all or a portion of the growth. There are also caps to how much they grow too as well.
4. Hybrid annuities - A mix of a VA and an IA.
5. What is the best for you would depend upon if you wanted immediate income or as an investment leading up to taking income out during retirement.
6. There are benefits as well that you may purchase - Guaranteed life time income, death benefit, other benefits. Benefits all cost an additional fee.

Your VA's often will have annual fees between 3% and 4.5%. But, if you want a guaranteed income, the fee really won't matter in the long run. Be aware that there are surrender charges in the first few years if you take money out early. And, there are commissions paid to the agents which are more than they receive for mutual funds. The difference with the commissions is that a mutual fund front load has break points meaning the more you invest the lower the commission fee (load) will be. For a million dollars, the fee would be 1%. For annuities, they are no front loads meaning all you invest goes into the investment. The agent still is paid up front and much more than with mutual funds. For a million dollar annuity, the agent may still be paid up front $3% or more. If you take the money out early, the surrender charge will cover the commissions for the insurance company.

If you are in California, I can be of an assistance as I've been doing this for 40 years. Any specific questions?
 
Thank you sir/madam, I am not in California, I don't need any help either, but thanks.
 
No. I have no desire to debate about anything. Thanks though.
 
I just realized, there is no "MONEY" thread on this site. Hmmmm.
Oh well.

I received an online survey today about "buying secure retirement payments".
I tried researching this, as the survey was just basic/vague questions.

All I got from my online search was "annuities". So, after reading the description, I'm very curious about this.


Does anybody here live on retirement annuities? If so, I have questions!!!!

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Yes, Im worried as a snowball in hell.
Mine is nothing to get excited about, less than 1K a month. But it was a late start with not much to invest. :(
 
I just realized, there is no "MONEY" thread on this site. Hmmmm.
Oh well.

I received an online survey today about "buying secure retirement payments".
I tried researching this, as the survey was just basic/vague questions.

All I got from my online search was "annuities". So, after reading the description, I'm very curious about this.


Does anybody here live on retirement annuities? If so, I have questions!!!!

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Yes, Im worried as a snowball in hell.

They charge high sales fees and unless you're going to live to a very old age, you're probably going to lose money.
 
It's a loss for whoever buys the annuity in the long run, they would not offer them if they were not profitable.

It does provide certainty, you have guaranteed money every month for the rest of your life, if you somehow outlive your earnings, you come out ahead, do you think who writes your policy will allow terms like this?

Highly unlikely. You pay for the convenience of not having stress on how your portfolio is performing, while getting smaller returns. I'm not forfeiting my future earnings for this convenience, but that's just me.

For some people, this arrangement is worth the loss of future earnings, knowing they have a guaranteed amount of money until they die.
 
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Are you a TransAmerica agent trying to sell IULs??? The most evil product ever made by human beings? Come on dishrag. Let’s debate and let me tear you apart 🤣
You need to find less meaningless ways to pass your (worthless) time, loser.
 
I have actually looked into annuities myself, and I think that they are a wonderful, brilliant concept. But they wouldn't sell any to me, because I wasn't old enough.
Oh no. You can buy an annuity at any age. You can get a dererred distribution annuity and you can't collect until you retire.
 
It's a loss for whoever buys the annuity in the long run, they would not offer them if they were not profitable.

It does provide certainty, you have guaranteed money every month for the rest of your life, if you somehow outlive your earnings, you come out ahead, do you think who writes your policy will allow terms like this?

Highly unlikely. You pay for the convenience of not having stress on how your portfolio is performing, while getting smaller returns. I'm not forfeiting my future earnings for this convenience, but that's just me.

For some people, this arrangement is worth the loss of future earnings, knowing they have a guaranteed amount of money until they die.
If you are talking about a straight annuity. The new Variable Annuities like Lincoln Estate Locks with lifetime guarantee income without annuitization are amazing.
 
If you are talking about a straight annuity. The new Variable Annuities like Lincoln Estate Locks with lifetime guarantee income without annuitization are amazing.
Yea, they probably have something out there that is more appealing, everyone, and everything, has to evolve if they wish to survive long term. I'm waiting for time shares to follow suit, where someone can sign a form and be released from their obligation in _____ months.
 

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